method man Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I think Ortega needs to convert to the WR position. At 6-4 227 pounds with very good athleticism and good hands, he has the potential to be a very nice possession receiver. I also hear that he is a good special teamer. As he is playing TE now and is making catches over the middle, he is tough as well. I think he needs to spend time on the practice squad this year and learn the nuances of the WR position. We shouldn't carry 6 receivers and because Espy really hasn't done all that much lately in the preseason, I think we could stash him on the practice squad without anyone grabbing him. If he wants to make it on the Skins (a team loaded with short speedy receivers), he needs to become Thrash's understudy on teams this season. Next season, with some seasoning, I like Ortega and Espy replacing an aging Patten and a diminishing Thrash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I think Ortega needs to convert to the WR position. At 6-4 227 pounds with very good athleticism and good hands, he has the potential to be a very nice possession receiver. I also hear that he is a good special teamer. As he is playing TE now and is making catches over the middle, he is tough as well. I think he needs to spend time on the practice squad this year and learn the nuances of the WR position. We shouldn't carry 6 receivers and because Espy really hasn't done all that much lately in the preseason, I think we could stash him on the practice squad without anyone grabbing him. If he wants to make it on the Skins (a team loaded with short speedy receivers), he needs to become Thrash's understudy on teams this season. Next season, with some seasoning, I like Ortega and Espy replacing an aging Patten and a diminishing Thrash. Considering that we have 3 TEs currently, including Ortega, unless we decide to look for another TE, Ortega will be playing TE. BTW, things have changed. TEs are now the big possession receivers in the league. I agree with you about Espy and I think he's destined for the practice squad. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM916 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I deffinitely want to see us lock down Espy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Complete Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Considering that we have 3 TEs currently, including Ortega, unless we decide to look for another TE, Ortega will be playing TE. Well, it depends on how many FBs and RBs we keep. With the addition of Ducket, I'm thinking it isn't looking good for Ortega to make the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINZ33 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Not a bad idea though I'm not sure (could be wrong) if Ortega has WR speed to seperate from a DB. I do want us to keep him because of his size and athleticism which makes him a nice red zone target. Espy has some talent but he'll definitely need to contribute in some other way for now if we keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I think they will put Ortega on the PS until Portis is healthy and use two TE, with Sellers seing some time at TE. With 2 TE they can keep an extra RB for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Well, it depends on how many FBs and RBs we keep. With the addition of Ducket, I'm thinking it isn't looking good for Ortega to make the team. Sorry, but I can't see the Skins going with just two TEs. If you are going with a tight formation, you need two at least, and you probably need a backup as well. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aghar Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I liked what I saw from both Ortega and Espy so far. Unfortunately there are only so many spots to fill. I think it's unlikely either makes the team, with Ortega having a better chance than Espy in my opinion. Hopefully the practice squad is a place for both. Possibly NFL Europe or something until the get another good shot at making the team next season. :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted August 29, 2006 Author Share Posted August 29, 2006 Considering that we have 3 TEs currently, including Ortega, unless we decide to look for another TE, Ortega will be playing TE.BTW, things have changed. TEs are now the big possession receivers in the league. I agree with you about Espy and I think he's destined for the practice squad. Jason I have not heard of many 225 pound TEs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted August 29, 2006 Author Share Posted August 29, 2006 He ran a 4.55 in high school so I am thinking he runs at least a 4.5 now. Anyways, what matters is true game speed. As long as Ortega does not run like molasses, if he can jump and has good hands, he can be our Hank Baskett. Ortega was also one of the best speical teamers at the U. That is telling me that he is a keeper and one of those guys who will become an important role player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt'n Obvious Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Definitely want to keep Espy on the team however we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted August 29, 2006 Author Share Posted August 29, 2006 As for the TE position, we need to get a blocker or at least a real 250-270 pound TE as our no. 3 TE. I see us signing someone off the scrap heap or after the next round of cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTerpsWiz47 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 my boy epsy is good i think he can make it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonez3 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I think they both showed ALOT of potential and would be nice to breed somehome grown. But I have been impressed with almost noone all preseason except Ortega. His desire is palpable every play he is in there. I think this is a guy who just gets better and better. He will be on an NFL team in a couple of years at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bake Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I would say to keep both players on the practice squad. I think we always need to develope talent from within, and not let some of our future stars get away to be stars on other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I have not heard of many 225 pound TEs. Redskins.com lists him as 232. Fauria is only 250. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allskinz Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Why do we need Espy? Dan got caught cutting down trees, not making crop circles and slaughtering livestock.. "Espy was indicted on charges of granting favors in exchange for thousands of dollars in gifts such as sports tickets" (this was Mike Espy Sr, by the way) .. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Espy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frediemac Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I deffinitely want to see us lock down Espy. What about Espy makes you want us to lock him down? not sure what he has shown so far? :rubeyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GestMuddaTruckaEver Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 He ran a 4.55 in high school so I am thinking he runs at least a 4.5 now. Anyways, what matters is true game speed. As long as Ortega does not run like molasses, if he can jump and has good hands, he can be our Hank Baskett. Ortega was also one of the best speical teamers at the U. That is telling me that he is a keeper and one of those guys who will become an important role player. excuse me meth, but uhmm, what the hell has hank baskett, a rookie, prooved to anyone that would allow him to be someone to compare to?:2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I have not heard of many 225 pound TEs. I agree...227 is a bit light for a TE, but the kid has some skills. He's also good on teams, which is the most important thing for Gibbs & co. in a reserve. I can see him making the team and having an impact on special teams and possibly goalline situations. Duckett, Sellers, Cooley, Fauria in on goalline packages -- who's gonna worry about Ortega?? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 excuse me meth, but uhmm, what the hell has hank baskett, a rookie, prooved to anyone that would allow him to be someone to compare to?:2cents: Well, up until the Stallworth trade, Baskett shot up the depth charts to become a starter, passing veterans like Greg Lewis, Jabar Gaffney, and an albeit injured Todd Pinkston. If you are not satisfied with hte example of Baskett, then he can be a poor man's Drew Bennett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 I think it will be Ortega, Nemo and Manuel White battling for 1 roster spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 I think it will be Ortega, Nemo and Manuel White battling for 1 roster spot You don't think Ortega's a lock at this point?? They WILL carry 3 TEs. Who else will they get?? Unless they consider Sellers a TE?? :whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted August 30, 2006 Author Share Posted August 30, 2006 I honestly think they will pick up a TE off the next set of roster cuts. Ortega is simply not a TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GestMuddaTruckaEver Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Well, up until the Stallworth trade, Baskett shot up the depth charts to become a starter, passing veterans like Greg Lewis, Jabar Gaffney, and an albeit injured Todd Pinkston. If you are not satisfied with hte example of Baskett, then he can be a poor man's Drew Bennett. thank you. . . and i wasnt tryin to be a d!ck in sayin this btw. . . just questioning. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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