FuriousD Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Can Jansen still be considered an elite tackle? Well, maybe not "elite". He's never been to the probowl, right? But he's long been considered a "top" tackle. Well, we've been hearing stories all camp of him getting owned by our own lineman and last night he got owned for 2 sacks in the first half. Easy sacks by speed rushers blowing around him. You know maybe, just maybe Gibbs used a lot of max protect schemes for good reason last year. Saunders clearly intends more receivers in routes. More options for the QB but is that really what this line needs? 6 sacks last night? 3 in the first half against the first teamers. I know we are not seeing the final product yet but we have legit concerns with pass protection and more importantly, the health of Brunnel. And Jansen did not look good last night! :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Everyone has a bad game every now and then. Jason Taylor had a trio of sacks against Samuels a couple years back. These guys aren't perfect, and don't always play up to their ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 I don't think Jansen is back in game shape yet from his 3 offseason thumb surgeries. He better put some work in quick over the next 2 weeks because we have no depth there. It wasn't just a bad game, I watched him struggle at all 4 practices I attended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Jansen has always been a top tackle, but it's really difficult to say he's been anything other than disappointing during the preseason. I have no idea what's wrong with him, but he doesn't even seem like the same player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachtony Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 What is this "owened" crap? its the worts phrase I have ever heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 What is this "owened" crap? its the worts phrase I have ever heard "Owened" is what happened to Kate Hudson, "owned" means being beat badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondie Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Did Saunders say he was putting the line in more 1-on-1 postitions during the preseason to see what they could do and how they would perform? Didn't he say these would NOT be the schemes during the season? Blondie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 If you can't fundamentally block a guy, doesn't matter where you pull to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Joe Hog Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Did Saunders say he was putting the line in more 1-on-1 postitions during the preseason to see what they could do and how they would perform?Blondie Yes, and Jansen hasn't done much and he has performed poorly. This is a cause for concern. There's only so much help they can give Jansen and it didn't exactly reassure me to see Fauria beaten badly last night, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 "Owened" is what happened to Kate Hudson, "owned" means being beat badly. Hillarious! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 I've tried to black the game from last night out but I remember a sack coming from the right side of the line but it was Christian Fauria 1 on 1 and he lost the battle. The other sack I remember from the right side was a great blitz by Rosevelt Colvin where he waited for both Thomas and Jansen to engage in blocks and then found a path to the QB. Michigan offensive lineman have always been known for their run blocking. Jansen has excelled in pass blocking in the past, I remember he used to always shut down Strahan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thStBully Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Fauria is a bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Pablo Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 It wears thin on a lineman if you run basically 15% of the time. After the first quarter, I can barely remember anyone getting any carries out of the backfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyburd Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 I posted last year that he was overated and got soooo slamed. He is at best an average tackle. Geat guy, great team player but average at best. Sorry, but watch him block, every speed rusher kills him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planter Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Not one of Jansen's better games but then the entire offense sucked! 0 points. 'Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousD Posted August 27, 2006 Author Share Posted August 27, 2006 Did Saunders say he was putting the line in more 1-on-1 postitions during the preseason to see what they could do and how they would perform?Didn't he say these would NOT be the schemes during the season? Blondie And how did they do one on one? First teamer gave up 3 last night! What did Saunders learn? I've tried to black the game from last night out but I remember a sack coming from the right side of the line but it was Christian Fauria 1 on 1 and he lost the battle. The other sack I remember from the right side was a great blitz by Rosevelt Colvin where he waited for both Thomas and Jansen to engage in blocks and then found a path to the QB. Michigan offensive lineman have always been known for their run blocking. Jansen has excelled in pass blocking in the past, I remember he used to always shut down Strahan. Jansen gave up 2. Both to the outside by wheeling around him. Fauria gave up another. 3 more by the backups in the second half, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MumboSauce Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 They are fine, Jansen is a warrior. Samuels is damn good...etc. Every lineman has thier nemesis or guy they line up across that seems to have thier number...but other than that..our Starters are very solid...I really don't have any concern there. other than depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Jansen has always excelled as a run blocker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNfaithfull Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 I said from Day 1 of camp he looks really bad. I think having surgery on his thumbs prevented him from lifting weights all off season a big strong white guy with no strength won't do you much good :doh: Hopefully he can get it back sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MumboSauce Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 ^^^^ Jansen is one of those ol school, brute strength, guys...that have no definition in thier arms etc. just heft, farm boy type power lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_ Skinshead Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 JJ may be dreaming of going to the Jets to be with Patrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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