21dave Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 More Mailbag Peter King ART MONK TIME. From Steve Woods of Houston: "In response to your list of 10 players left out of the Hall of Fame, I have my own list (which I know you won't agree with): 1) Art Monk. 2) Art Monk. 3) Art Monk. 4) Art Monk. You get my drift, and yes, I am a biased die-hard 'Skins fan. Monk had 940 career receptions, 12,000 career yards, with three Super Bowls rings. I think the presence of John Riggins on the goal line is a big reason why he didn't have quite as many touchdowns as you would have thought, given his other stats, although he does have more than several receivers already in, such as Stallworth and Swann. The guy was a tremendous player, who, in my opinion, was the heart and soul of the offense for much of the '80s. You can't do any more than that. It sure does seem like you have some sort of bias against the 'Skins, and Monk in particular, in recent years. I don't understand that. Are you a Cowboys fan?!? Please say it isn't so.'' Ain't so. I'm a fan of no football team. You may be interested to know that I am going to rethink my position on Monk this year. I don't want to be so stuck in the mud on this issue that I close my mind to the possibility that I'm wrong and that Monk really does belong. So I'm going to sit down with Joe Gibbs when I see the Redskins this summer and try to soak in what the Monk side believes I am missing. A lot of people I respect tell me I'm dead wrong on Monk -- Len Shapiro, Mike Wilbon among them, plus quieter ones with close ties to the Hall. So I'll rethink my position and let you know what I come up with. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/06/06/mmqbte/1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeySkin Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Oh thank you Lord Peter King for opening your mind to the possibility that Art Monk might belong in the HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 What a tool. Somebody probably busted him behind the scenes after he did that rant for the Giants LB who showed where his bias was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMac Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 :rubeyes: WOW!! I'm afraid hell just got air conditioning :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllAboutSkins08 Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 he probably got tired of his inbox reaching maximum capacity everytime a HOF topic came up. peter queen actually change his mind on this issue?? i'll believe it when i see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21KillzCowboys Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Arrogant, piece of trash, Giants fan. Typical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 So this is what 666 is all about?? :laugh: He's a flip flopper! MONK 07! You heard it here first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Complete Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 It's a crime that Art is not already in. It breaks my heart when I watch old highlights and they say "future hall of famer Art Monk" :cry: :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconBlue Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 :rubeyes: WOW!! I'm afraid hell just got air conditioning :laugh: No Doubt. Personally I may even refrain from verbally lambasting the man until he gets back to us on this. If however after his deep complentation and talk with Gibbs he comes back as stubborn as before... well I hope no one's that dense. We'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins n' Bones Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 "You may be interested to know that I am going to rethink my position on Monk this year. I don't want to be so stuck in the mud on this issue that I close my mind to the possibility that I'm wrong and that Monk really does belong. So I'm going to sit down with Joe Gibbs when I see the Redskins this summer and try to soak in what the Monk side believes I am missing. A lot of people I respect tell me I'm dead wrong on Monk -- Len Shapiro, Mike Wilbon among them, plus quieter ones with close ties to the Hall. So I'll rethink my position and let you know what I come up with." Oh thank you Lord King! What a F-ing tool..... Come on Joe, tell him how it is!!! That being said, my question is this: Do one or two people really have enough influence over the other voters to block someone like Monk out? If so, the HOF voting system REALLY needs to be re-evaluated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Edds Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 well, even if he votes against him again, this is still a big step for him . . . albeit a half-*****ed on at that. But I guess I'll take any sort of compliment on Monk from him . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoReincarnated Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 What a tool.Somebody probably busted him behind the scenes after he did that rant for the Giants LB who showed where his bias was. Harry Carson not being in the HOF was nearly as much of a travesty as Monk. Now Carson is in. Monk needs to be next for justice to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReefa Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 He must have read his description of Michael Irvin and realized what a jerk he looked like. In fact, let's put that up one more time... Catching 750 balls for a three-time Super Bowl winner and being the key guy in the locker room on game days ... that should make him a gimme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 That being said' date=' my question is this: Do one or two people really have enough influence over the other voters to block someone like Monk out? If so, the HOF voting system REALLY needs to be re-evaluated.[/quote']If King changes his mind, that would be huge, but it takes 8 voters to keep someone out of the Hall of Fame. Here's my best guess: The Enemy (3): These are voters actively trying to keep Art Monk out of the Hall of Fame through their columns and their arguments in the voting room: Green Bay: Cliff Christl, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel New York (Jets): Paul Zimmerman, Sports Illustrated At Large: Peter King, Sports Illustrated The Doubters (3): These voters have bought many of the arguments made by the enemy, and they are probably voting against Art Monk. However, they aren't actively campaigning against Art, and maybe they could even change their minds: Dallas: Rick Gosselin, Dallas Morning News New England: Ron Borges, Boston Globe At Large: Len Pasquarelli, ESPN.com Not Sold on Monk (4): Buffalo: Mark Gaughan, Buffalo News Cleveland: Tony Grossi, Cleveland Plain Dealer Kansas City: Bob Gretz, KCFX Overland Park, KS Philadelphia: Paul Domowitch, Philadelphia Daily News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Harry Carson not being in the HOF was nearly as much of a travesty as Monk.Now Carson is in. Monk needs to be next for justice to be done. His argument against Monk could have been changed for Carson very easily. That he wasn't the focus of the other team. That other players in the same position are who the other team game planned for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 That being said' date=' my question is this: Do one or two people really have enough influence over the other voters to block someone like Monk out? If so, the HOF voting system REALLY needs to be re-evaluated.[/quote'] Apparently, Petey King has much of the Hall vote in him. He is the ring leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenken627 Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 WOW. This was on the first page of the same article that Peter King wrote. "Now on to other e-mails. And this is a big surprise: I got 16 million pieces of mail saying Art Monk should be in." 16 MILLION EMAILS about Art Monk. It's not just Redskins fans I bet. It seems like the entire NFL fanbase is speaking out on Art Monk's behalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themurf Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Charlie Brown always thought he was going to be able to kick the football. Don't believe Peter King - he's just setting 'Skins fans up so he can watch them fall again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReefa Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 WOW.This was on the first page of the same article that Peter King wrote. "Now on to other e-mails. And this is a big surprise: I got 16 million pieces of mail saying Art Monk should be in." 16 MILLION EMAILS about Art Monk. It's not just Redskins fans I bet. It seems like the entire NFL fanbase is speaking out on Art Monk's behalf. :doh: hy-per-bo-le n. - A figure of speech in which exaggeration is used for emphasis or effect, as in I could sleep for a year or This book weighs a ton. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hyperbole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenken627 Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 :doh: hy-per-bo-le n. - A figure of speech in which exaggeration is used for emphasis or effect, as in I could sleep for a year or This book weighs a ton. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hyperbole Uhmmm, sigh at you. 16 Million emails wouldn't be a good hyperbole for 20 emails. He has gotten a TRUCKLOAD of emails. 600,000 emails, 16 million emails, still means the nation cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostRider Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Well, at least he's keeping a somewhat open mind about. I personally think it's a disgrace that he's not already in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBChick Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Uhmmm, sigh at you.16 Million emails wouldn't be a good hyperbole for 20 emails. He has gotten a TRUCKLOAD of emails. 600,000 emails, 16 million emails, still means the nation cares. Or it's a couple hundred die hard skins fan sending him about 100 emails each! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Complete Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 I personally think it's a disgrace that he's not already in. Disgrace indeed. Monk has more receptions than any receiver currently in the Hall of Fame, and has more receptions than Hall of Famers Lynn Swann and John Stallworth combined. :mad: :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryClark4Canton Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Oh thank you Lord Peter King for opening your mind to the possibility that Art Monk might belong in the HOF My vote for post of the day lol...." Lord Peter King" would be pleased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDane Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Come on, fess up. How did you fake that link? Cause I know I didn't just read that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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