mook Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Food for thought. An interesting statistic:Mark Rypien - 1991 - (Super Bowl MVP + NFL Offensive POY Winner + PRO-BOWL) | Passing | | Rushing | ------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD | +----------------------------------------------------------------------- | 1991 WAS | 16 | 249 421 59.1 3564 8.5 28 11 | 15 6 1 | Mark Brunell - 2005 - | Passing | | Rushing | ------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD | +----------------------------------------------------------------------- | 2005 WAS |16 | 262 454 57.7 3050 6.7 23 10 | 42 111 0 | Pretty comparable numbers, wouldn't you say. How much better will Brunell be now? The sky's the limit. Very interesting numbers, nice work .:applause: You are definitely on to something here, Rypien clearly had a lot more weapons to work with than Brunell did last year, but this year will be a different story. I don't get all the MB detractors, a healthy Brunell = an effective QB, he's shown it in the past so many times so give him the benefit of the doubt until it's proven that he can't perform. Last year in the playoffs I got so tired of all the attention our offense got as being "dreadful", you can't judge an offensive unit on one or two games and now it seems some of the fans on this site have jumped on that same bandwagon, I just don't see it that way. I look at the fact that we had to fight our balls off just to make the playoffs, by the end of the year we had a knicked up QB, Portis was certainly in need of a rest and the defenses were able to take advantage of this fact. If you look at how the offense performed for most of the season it is pretty clear that they did quite well, much improved from the year before. This seasons additions to the offense are going to bring it to a whole different level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 since we wont see a lot of the redskins real offense in the preseason, you can expect jason campbell to get a LOT of playing time. he needs to see the field somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaK9Trainer Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I just hope Brunell can stay healthy. I have high hopes for Jason Campbell but lets be honest. He hasnt played! We really dont know if he's the real deal or not. We're in a tough spot. Brunell is the best QB to win now, but we have to prepare for our future too. Look for Campbell to get a lot of work if we're up big on anyone this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMan978 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Mark Brunell cost us the playoffs, he was injured and everyone knew it. I don't know why he couldn't just tell Coach Gibbs, that he is not 100% and Ramsey should have played. He rushed his self back. I hope Brunell gets injured and Campbell can get the job. I tried of people loving this guy, just last year everyone is hating him and now everyone changes there mind and love him. He's too old and needs to pack it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 the good thing about having brunell on the team and him still being productive is that we dont have to rush jason into the fire. he can take as much time as he needs since we are still going to have a very good QB out there. i know a lot of people want to see jason on the field but i dont think many people will be mad if brunell is in instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 With a healthy Mark Brunell at QB and all the weapons we've added to our offense (WRs, Oline Depth, Al Saunders), our offense is going to explode next season. I'm in no hurry to see Jason Campbell take over, because I have faith in Brunell. And if you don't have faith, well .... look at this video and see if it'll change your mind: http://www.youtube.com/player.swf?video_id=zCxHU5smbgI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyhorse1 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I appreciate Mark, I love Mark, but I refuse to engage in myth making, so I'll be a grinch even while praising Mark. Great arm when healthy, great legs and a great runner, very underrated, but please stop saying he doesn't make mistakes. He makes a lot of mistakes. 2004. Brunell: 10 interceptions 11 fumbles 6 fumbles lost Ramsey: 11 interceptions 6 fumbles 1 fumble lost He played a little more than Ramsey, not enough to account for the difference. Brunell was touted as a guy who didn't make mistakes Ramsey was touted as an interception machine Neither were/are true Let's be accurate in our praise and condemnation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weganator Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I truly believe that mark brunell will have an amazing season this year. Jason Campbell will get at least 3 regular season games where he comes in as a cleanup role because we will have some massive leads this season... (texans, titans, saints?, rams?).... so Campbell will get some playing time, albeit not quality playing time, but he will get some snaps. But my concern is that after this season, Brunell and Collins will be old, Bramlet looks like a #3, but we dont seem to have a young #2 for the future. But for now... brunell will look something like this... MARK BRUNELL 2006 STATS Predictions: TD: 28-30 Rushing yds: 85-100 Passing yds: 3500-3600 Ints: 10-12 Fumbles: 5 This is not counting the playoffs. These are my predictions... what do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbuzz1962 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 because this might be the last year you canMark Brunell has had his ups and downs as a skin... and this year could be his last skin tenure... now people are saying why not start campbell he is the future... well heres why we should start Brunell: hes healthy and when hes healthy hes the most accurate QB the skins have had in a long time... and has a perfect timing with moss and probably will with twan and lloyd... he can carry our team has a vet and just a plain good guy... hes not on of those characters who needs attentions, hes a team player who doesnt try to get all the media attention... Brunell will have a good year this year and im not afraid to admit it because i have faith in him... i do in Jason but this year its Mark and we will be back in the playoffs and i know joe and mark will go out on top In memory of my fedex field brother who was there when Novak hit that field goal and all the rest of the games of the season... SOD i love u man EDIT: hes not dead just might not be able to sit with me anymore I agree. Brunell should have his best year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelerSkins Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 exactly . . . this will probbaly be his last year, so lets hope he stays healthy and gets us back for one more good run before turning over the keys to campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattGeorge85 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 I gotta tell ya that when Mark scrambles and gets first down it always puts a smile on my face. There were times last year that he could have been crushed but took a chance and ran for a first down. We all know he used to be the more mobile running style (not as much as the new blood out there). The man wants to win and even though things don't always turn out, he gets in the mix. I defenitly think that he can lead us to the playoffs again. And who knows with defense backing up solid offense there might be a big suprise for those still sleeping on this team. :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 With Brunell ... the sleep will turn into a a nightmare ... get a grip Matt ... if Mark's totering runs on 3rd down bring a smile to your face ... wait until you experience Jason Campbell running the ball ... you will need a neck brace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 You know, you watch a young QB develop, you go with him through the ups and downs, you win games, you lose games, and then suddenly they are the grizzled vet getting by on guts and instincts. Of course, we've had none of that experience with Brunell who came here two years ago, stunk for a season, played darn well for about 8 games, and then went in the tank again. I really have no emotional investment in him whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 well said Kid ... and Coach Gibbs should have the same emotionless attachment ... even more so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 .But for now... brunell will look something like this... MARK BRUNELL 2006 STATS Predictions: TD: 28-30 Rushing yds: 85-100 Passing yds: 3500-3600 Ints: 10-12 Fumbles: 5 This is not counting the playoffs. These are my predictions... what do you guys think? I think you are crazy. That would be Brunell's second best season EVER as a pro in terms of yardage and his best season ever BY FAR in terms of touchdowns. And he is a former all-pro. Basically, you are predicting a Peyton Manning-esq season out of an injury-prone 36-year old. I can only think of two older QBs in history who have had seasons like that. Gannon in 2002 and Cunningham in 1998. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 well said Kid ... and Coach Gibbs should have the same emotionless attachment ... even more so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 I think you are crazy. That would be Brunell's second best season EVER as a pro in terms of yardage and his best season ever BY FAR in terms of touchdowns. But, looking at his stats from last year, that isn't much greater than what he did last year. 5-7 more touchdowns, and only 500 more receiving yards. Considering what we were lacking as far as receivers last year, it isn't unrealistic. Considering that we have about as many weapons on offense as Peyton has, why can't we expect something close to that? Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 But, looking at his stats from last year, that isn't much greater than what he did last year. 5-7 more touchdowns, and only 500 more receiving yards. Considering what we were lacking as far as receivers last year, it isn't unrealistic.Considering that we have about as many weapons on offense as Peyton has, why can't we expect something close to that? Jason Because we honestly don't know what we have on offense. Clinton Portis is a great running back. This we know. Santana Moss is a great wide receiver. And Chris Cooley is really good at whatever it is he does. Aside from that, Brandon Lloyd has a lot of potential and a budding rap career, and Randle El caught 35 passes as a #2 receiver. Manning meanwhile is not only a better QB than Brunell ever was on his best day is 7 years younger, has a hall of fame receiver, the best #2 receiver in football, a really good slot guy, plays inside on turf, and used to have a RB who is probably better than Portis. So, yea...it is a lot to expect that a 36-year-old is suddenly going to become Peyton Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Aside from that' date=' Brandon Lloyd has a lot of potential and a budding rap career, and Randle El caught 35 passes as a #2 receiver.[/quote']Which is true, but you'd have to think that whatever they bring, it will be an improvement over last year, where once Patton went down, we had nothing behind him. So, yea...it is a lot to expect that a 36-year-old is suddenly going to become Peyton Manning. How about like Steve Deberg? 1990 (36 years old) 58.1% 3444 Yards 23 TDs 4 Ints. Or Rich Gannon? 2002 (36 years old) 67.6% 4689 Yards 26 TDs 11 Ints. So it isn't beyond the realm of possibility. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Coach Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 I will appreciate it if this is his last year. I have a feeling that we will look back at his reign as at least three wasted seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattGeorge85 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 With Brunell ... the sleep will turn into a a nightmare ... get a grip Matt ... if Mark's totering runs on 3rd down bring a smile to your face ... wait until you experience Jason Campbell running the ball ... you will need a neck brace. I feel you man, I beleive JC will be the future and lead the team. I just wanted to praise Mark for sticking with it even though his legs aren't as fast as they used to be. Compare his mobility from Jacksonville to here and every time he scrambles and it feel like a roll of the dice. When he pulls it of I usually think "did he just do that?" and go get another beer at commercial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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