Westbrook36 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Art, what were the Skins in last year when they let a few "corps Redskins" go while signing pretty much nobody, by Skins standards? Seriously, if this method of FO management is so foolproof, how come it didn't work last year? Last year, it was spun as "We don't do things like this anymore with Joe aboard. The free spending ways are a thing of the past. We want continuity now." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1796 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 HA HA that's not gonna make them hate us any less lol SWEET! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Art, what were the Skins in last year when they let a few "corps Redskins" go while signing pretty much nobody, by Skins standards? Seriously, if this method of FO management is so foolproof, how come it didn't work last year?Last year, it was spun as "We don't do things like this anymore with Joe aboard. The free spending ways are a thing of the past. We want continuity now." "corps Redskins" is this a zombie movie??? :eaglesuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 "corps Redskins" is this a zombie movie??? :eaglesuck Sorry, I'm in the Marine Corps. Mistake on my part. But, that is a valid reason to ignore my entire point. You know, because I misspelled a word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Sorry, I'm in the Marine Corps. Mistake on my part.But, that is a valid reason to ignore my entire point. You know, because I misspelled a word. just messin around dude, chizeel...not everything has to be serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sire Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Art, what were the Skins in last year when they let a few "corps Redskins" go while signing pretty much nobody, by Skins standards? Seriously, if this method of FO management is so foolproof, how come it didn't work last year? The coaches ARE keeping Corp Redskins just b/c WE THINK WE know who they are doesn't mean WE do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isifhan Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Art, what were the Skins in last year when they let a few "corps Redskins" go while signing pretty much nobody, Hey if Santana Moss is nobody I'll take a bunch of nobody's every day of the week over anyone on the Eagles. We didn't let anyone walk who we couldn't replace and who valued themselves higher than we thought they were worth. Now if the Eagles do something like that then it's genius, if the skins do it, it's stupidity? Please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 Art, what were the Skins in last year when they let a few "corps Redskins" go while signing pretty much nobody, by Skins standards? Seriously, if this method of FO management is so foolproof, how come it didn't work last year?Last year, it was spun as "We don't do things like this anymore with Joe aboard. The free spending ways are a thing of the past. We want continuity now." WB, we spent big in 2004. That means 2005 is a rest year. This year wasn't. Next year will be. We have achieved a high level of continuity. We have 10 of 11 starters remaining on the offense with one moving into a reserve role. We have 9 (8 if you consider Harris a starter) starters returning on defense. That's continuity. Making the roster better while maintaining that is something you guys have NEVER figured out. We'll do this again in 2008 as we need to. As for core Redskins, I'll say you don't understand the concept. Being a core Redskin is a two-way street. Not just us to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 The coaches ARE keeping Corp Redskins just b/c WE THINK WE know who they are doesn't mean WE do. ok guys its core...come on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sire Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 WB, we spent big in 2004. That means 2005 is a rest year. This year wasn't. Next year will be. Exactly, and Rabach and Moss are pretty good for a REST year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinklein Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Your sarcasm is priceless, Art. Thanks for an awesome read! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 As for core Redskins, I'll say you don't understand the concept. Being a core Redskin is a two-way street. Not just us to them. I'm confused. No one left last year that was previously identified as a "core Redskin" by Gibbs? Help me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaganaut Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 This is why I love Art. He B**** slaps every whiny NFL fan out there who complains about the Redskins and the cap. Now I actually feel sorry for fans of other teams who don't have what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyf316 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Art, what were the Skins in last year when they let a few "corps Redskins" go while signing pretty much nobody, by Skins standards? Seriously, if this method of FO management is so foolproof, how come it didn't work last year?Last year, it was spun as "We don't do things like this anymore with Joe aboard. The free spending ways are a thing of the past. We want continuity now." What didn't work last year? I seem to remember making it into the playoffs... the Eagles might have missed that from their couches... Continuity is achieved by signing these young individuals to long term contracts. Kind of like the contracts that every young addition has signed this year so far during free agency. If you're angry that your team doesn't spend money to bring people in, write them a letter. Don't get snotty with Art about the Redskins doing something that you wish your team was doing. If everything goes well next year, will you be writing an article to apoligize for the recent years of doubting what our front office is doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAlison Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 ...Seriously, if this method of FO management is so foolproof, how come it didn't work last year?Last year, it was spun as "We don't do things like this anymore with Joe aboard. The free spending ways are a thing of the past. We want continuity now." First off, how didn't it work last year? Who was the only NFC East team to advance to the second round of the playoffs? Who went 5-1 in their division? I know the answer is in here somewhere... :logo: This team does everything it can to improve every year. Whether it's getting the right players or the right coaches, the FO is always running it right to the limit. At least our FO has some balls and is willing to put their money where their mouth is. Every other team talks about improving, the Skins take action. Art - that was a great read. Nicely done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie4redskins Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Awesome article, Art! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 First off, how didn't it work last year? Who was the only NFC East team to advance to the second round of the playoffs? Who went 5-1 in their division? I know the answer is in here somewhere... :logo: This team does everything it can to improve every year. Whether it's getting the right players or the right coaches, the FO is always running it right to the limit. At least our FO has some balls and is willing to put their money where their mouth is. Every other team talks about improving, the Skins take action. Art - that was a great read. Nicely done. When I said "didn't work" I mean not being able to spend freely like Art says this approach will make you able to do every year. You lost guys you wanted to keep, because of the restraints of the salary cap. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 When I said "didn't work" I mean not being able to spend freely like Art says this approach will make you able to do every year. You lost guys you wanted to keep, because of the restraints of the salary cap. Period. I didn't say we could spend every year, WB. I said we could spend freely this year, despite everything we've heard. And, the future cap hell now predicted will be met with something exactly the same as this, just as this met previous predictions. We did not lose guys we wanted to keep because of restraints of the cap. We lost guys we wanted to keep because of restraints of contracts within groups of players, as they fit within the cap. But, I know you don't understand the layering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallen5862 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Great article Art. That should be required reading about the cap situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altair4 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Thats a bit thick, don't you think? Calling all the other teams stupid? I hope your asbestos underwear doesn't itch too much...its going to be a long season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I'm confused. No one left last year that was previously identified as a "core Redskin" by Gibbs? Help me out. What he means is that, while the organization will give, the player has to give as well. Pierce and Smoot were given reasonable offers by the organization, but they decided to take offers elsewhere. Being a "core Redskin" doesn't mean they are going to resign them at any cost. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Art, what were the Skins in last year when they let a few "corps Redskins" go while signing pretty much nobody, by Skins standards? Seriously, if this method of FO management is so foolproof, how come it didn't work last year?Last year, it was spun as "We don't do things like this anymore with Joe aboard. The free spending ways are a thing of the past. We want continuity now." Last year wasn't a case of not being able to sign folks b/c of the cap. The Redskins could've, for example, given Smoot and Pierce more in thier contact offer. However, the Redskins weren't going to give Smoot more than Springs. We weren't going to give Pierce more than Marcus Washington. So they put a ceiling on thier offers. They were only going to go so high, no matter what the cap was. Same with Ryan Clark this year. They obviously could've offered more, but they weren't going to. He's a decent player, but with limited ability. There's no reason to break the bank on him when you can find others like him. What we said last year still goes. With Gibbs here, we are getting YOUNG, good players to fill the holes on our team. This isn't some irrational spending spree. Every player we got fills a need. This is a controlled, very measured response to the shortcomings this team had. The contracts may seem big, but if you read other threads about them here, you will see they aren't as big as they look. I know you still can't get over the fact that the Redskins aren't in "cap hell" like you've been predicting, but you are just going to haft to accept the fact that thier F.O. knows what it is doing. (And you are also going to have to accept the fact that the Eagle F.O. is CHEAP!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 Thats a bit thick, don't you think? Calling all the other teams stupid?I hope your asbestos underwear doesn't itch too much...its going to be a long season. Stupid is as stupid does sir. Doesn't matter what happens during the year to know what's happening now is awfully silly in most cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunPortisRun Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 That was yor best article by far! I finally understood it. Good job man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 What he means is that, while the organization will give, the player has to give as well. Pierce and Smoot were given reasonable offers by the organization, but they decided to take offers elsewhere. Being a "core Redskin" doesn't mean they are going to resign them at any cost.Jason WB, read this. Understand it. Use this to contextualize any core Redskin reference as this is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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