Ant15fromNJ Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=15840 Abraham Visits Redskins Park By Gary Fitzgerald Redskins.com March 13, 2006 Versatile linebacker/defensive end John Abraham visited Redskins Park on Monday, according to head coach Joe Gibbs. Abraham, who was with the New York Jets the last six years, is an unrestricted free agent this offseason, but the Jets have anointed him as their franchise player. That means teams can negotiate with Abraham, but the Jets can match the offer and retain him, or receive a pair of first-round draft choices in return. In six seasons, Abraham has recorded 53.5 sacks and 212 tackles. Last year, Abraham recorded 10.5 sacks and 58 tackles. The Redskins have also spent time with another linebacker/defensive end in Andre Carter, who visited Redskins Park over the weekend. Team officials have identified pass rush as a need on defense this offseason. No reason to cut Gary's name out. ~TK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmuss1 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 This guy would be a major addition to this team, but with the franchise tag on him I can't see how we can attain him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinstzar Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Nooooooooooo. Anyone who has ever posted about character and the team concept should not want this guy on their team. He is going to want ridiculous money and we would have to give up high, very very high draft picks to get him. Fill this position in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinFaninOKC Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Signing this guy would be a big mistake. Giving up 2 first rounders is way too much for a D-lineman and our D is decent already without him. Draft a D-lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 we won't give up 2 first rounders to get him if we do get him. more like ramsey and a 2nd or ramsey and a 1st at the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir L Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 yeah give up the 1st who are we going to find in the first round that we know for sure will be as good as him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins11 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Two first rounders is way too much... and we don't have one right now. But of course, that doesn't matter, since that's just the standard compensation. Denver didn't give two first rounders for Bailey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 This guy would be a major addition to this team, but with the franchise tag on him I can't see how we can attain him. The tag is more a formality than anything else. There isn't truly any mandatory compensation. It's left to the teams involved to negotiate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinstzar Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 So how are these negotations going Andyman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 hmmm...theres got to be more to this if its on redskins.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvan1 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 my guess is that we'd give up ramsey and next years 1st for him. would we want to play him at LB or DE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailVictory Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Ramsey, a 2006 4th and 2007 1st. Would sting to lose all the picks, but assuming Abraham could stay healthy, it's a solid move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk4theHall81 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Lets trade them Ramsey and the rest of our draft for Abraham Wait a minute... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinstzar Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 my guess is that we'd give up ramsey and next years 1st for him. would we want to play him at LB or DE? I really hope that we wouldn't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmw2301 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 We need to get him, give up Ramsey, Patten, this years 5th and next years 3rd... WE NEED HIM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Skins Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 We definitely should not give up next year's first rounder. No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayneal7 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I'd rather see Ramsey and next yrs 1st for Abraham and a 4th or 5th either yr. And I'm not sure about giving up a 1st....the guy has said he ain't playin' for NY and who else but Deep-Pocket-Dan can afford to pay him?? Ramsey and a toss in pick is plenty. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frediemac Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 The Jets will NEED to get rid of him just like we need to get rid of Ramsey. The Jets will ask for 1st, but if they get Ramsey, and a 2nd Rd. They will be happy. OR WE MOVE BACK TO CARTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsOrlando Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 What is everyones infatuation with draft picks????? Proven talent over a bunch of maybe's???? I'll take proven talent and matter of factly, Abraham is proven talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBleedBurgundy&Gold1369225669 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 WE NEED PASS RUSHERS I Don't care what there name is just get after th QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinstzar Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 What is everyones infatuation with draft picks????? Proven talent over a bunch of maybe's???? I'll take proven talent and matter of factly, Abraham is proven talent. Draft picks are younger, cheaper, moldable. If you trust your people to truly evaluate talent then you value your draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwasm Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I through giving up our draft picks. Either we trade Ramsey for him straight up or just move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Ramsey, Patten, and next years second, and it will be a done deal. Bank on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlhjr34 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Abraham is a monster. If giving up Ramsey and a draft pick is what it takes, well then so be it. I agree with a previous post, proven talent works for me (as long as it's young talent). I could see giving up a #1 for a Willie Mcginest as being wasteful, but when you're getting a guy in early-mid 20's seems like a steal to me and as good as getting a draft pick that turns out like you hope, only you don't have to hope because you KNOW what they are capable of before they sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFanatic Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 yeah give up the 1st who are we going to find in the first round that we know for sure will be as good as him No one that's who....Draft picks are gambles, plain & simple. You cannot compare a draft pick with a proven FA.:logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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