Xameil Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Do we have any new updates, or are they still bickering back and forth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnacpa Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Good explination. Basically, with a new deal, you want to restructure under the new rules anyways, because you probably can get more out of their contract that way. For example, you don't have to shorten Portis' contract to make things work.Jason Exactly ... with a new CBA/extension we won't have an uncapped year next year so certain scenarios such as voiding off years on a contract because we may be able to give them some nice love with no cap don't become reality when you have the cap and must work within those rules. On a different level ... it is funny how every example given by the national media says that the Redskins are the worst off of any cap strung team and that Daniel Snyder will be finally paying the price for dancing with the cap devil all these years ... when in reality it looks like he is one of the smartest owers in the league: He didn't prematurely cut anyone on Wednesday, his players have opted to work with him for the betterment of the team (which validates the amazing impact Gibbs has had on the culture w/ the Redskins), and any reworkings that have been agreed to in principal will not be finalized unless an agreement with the NFLPA doesn't go through. Worse case scenario at this point is that we don't have an exteded CBA and don't have as much room to manuever in free agency as we may have with an extension ... plus we have to renegotiate contract extensions next offseason when there is no penalty for giving up big $. It looks like we are going to be more than ok in either scenario with the cba. That is great management and planning by the Redskins - specifically Dan, the front office, and Gibbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVskinsfan Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 If this is true. It's time to fire up Redskins One. :fingersx: Fire up them engines "captain" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknsrbck26 Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 This is great....back to the playoffs!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winning Season Please! Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 I did not want to start a yet another thread on the CBA, but I found this interesting. http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm BIRK BODY SLAMS GENE Vikings center Matt Birk, has taken aim squarely at NFLPA executive director Gene Upshaw. Birk was candid in his comments with The Minneapolis Star Tribune regarding the union and Upshaw's leadership of it in conjunction with the ongoing CBA negotiations. "Don't put this in the paper ... no, wait, go ahead and put it in," Birk said. "Gene Upshaw is a piece of [insert colorful language here]." And Birk isn't just some garden-variety pissed-off lineman spewing venom. Birk's pedigree gives him plenty of credibility. The dude went to Harvard, and he didn't get a six or a seven or a 16 on his Wonderlic. He's smart, he's perceptive, and he's very dangerous to guys who hope to manipulate others through emotion. As to the status of the on-again, off-again labor talks, Birk said: "It's a joke, it really is. Everyone is making money. A lot of money. You think anyone wants to hear about the money problems of the NFL owners or players? It's bad pub for the league. It's bad for all of us." Birk told us a few weeks back that the union has left the players "[p]retty much in the dark" regarding the status of the talks. "One thing about the union, in my opinion, they're always watching out for the union," he told us. Per Friday's story in The Star Tribune,Birk was at one point a player representative to the union, but he quit due to what he called "propaganda and poor leadership." "When you go to those CBA meetings, you always feel like you're being sold something instead of being given the straight facts," Birk told The Star Tribune. "Through all the meetings leading up to this, it was always: 'The owners don't want an uncapped year. We'll get a deal, and if we don't, so what? There will be an uncapped year and there will be crazy money out there.' The reality is that's not the case. And you're seeing that it's not the leverage we were told it would be. . . . "Instead, you go there and it's like some kind of religious revival. You don't feel you're getting the true message. And they're always talking too fast." With all that said, we're still convinced that the deal between the league and the union will get done in a heartbeat as soon as the owners figure out what to do with revenue sharing. But if Upshaw really is willingly playing the bad guy as cover for the owners in the hopes that he'll be the next Commissioner, the owners might want to ponder the wisdom of an Ivy Leaguer before making a selection based on gratitude. Gratitude, after all, is just another emotion. 58 PERCENT EQUALS $104 MILLION SALARY CAP We've been suggesting in this space for the past couple of days that the supposed gulf between the NFL and the NFLPA of 3.8 percentage points of total football revenue is a gap that easily can be resolved by essentially splitting the difference. The league is at 56.2 percent of total football revenue, and the union is at 60 percent. Logic tells us that the deal gets done at 58 percent. And we've picked up some info that corroborates our belief in this regard. Per a league source, it's been projected that 56 percent of total football revenue equates to a $100 million salary cap -- less than $5.5 million more than the current cap number of $94.53 million. It's also been projected, we're told, that each additional percentage point will result in another $2 million per team in cap room. At 58 percent, the team-by-team cap is $104 million, which is right in the middle of the ballpark that we've been hearing for much of the week as to what the new salary cap will be if/when a new agreement is reached. Which tells us that the NFL already has resigned itself to going to 58 percent. Which tells us that the NFLPA likely would drop to 58 percent. Which tells us that, as we've believed all week, it all comes down to whether the owners can get their act together on revenue sharing or, as we now understand the operative term to be, "cost transfer." :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstape Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Does anyone know if there is a copy of the current CBA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrapeApe Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 You can find the entire CBA here .... http://www.nflpa.org/Members/main.asp?subPage=CBA+Complete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Any news about the negotiations yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Mort is doing an insider chat on ESPN website right now. Don't have insider - but there might be a update there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Mort is doing an insider chat on ESPN website right now. Don't have insider - but there might be a update there. got a link to that I cant find it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabee1973 Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 stupid question:why the hell wern't they negotiating a year ago if they knew this would happen? I am sick of unions and powerplays. I work at a company that employess a ton of teamsters and they routinly try and screw us. its like the new york transit strike, rediculous. They actually did start last year They always start early and low ball each other then met in the middle somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterwagen Posted March 3, 2006 Author Share Posted March 3, 2006 got a link to that I cant find it?I think he may be confusing the chat with Mort yesterday with one for today. I'm an insider and all I see is a chat with Rick Spielman at 4pm today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Weird, it was there when I posted. Now I don't see the link anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Also, we already had players restructure in anticipation of a deal not getting done so we may have even MORE money to spend. Your sig is a bit ridiculous man...I dont know Sean as a person. He is on my favorite team, but there is NO way i would go to jail for him. If he did it, he needs to serve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoGood28 Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Fox guys this morning brought up some interesting points. Seems like the players would probably be happy if the NFL implemented a minimum cap. That way, owners like the Bidwells and Luries can't pocket all that extra money. Then it will make it's way to the players. That way, both parties give up something. A minimum salary cap is a GREAT IDEA. Then these small market teams wouldn't have any argument about not being competitive with the bigger teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinswin Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 If this is true. It's time to fire up Redskins One. :fingersx: :cheers: Let's get it going. Let's pick up Eric Moulds for starters!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 A minimum salary cap is a GREAT IDEA. Then these small market teams wouldn't have any argument about not being competitive with the bigger teams. There already is a min cap.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 I really can't understand how there has been a whole day of deliberations and we have yet to hear of something new...I take this as a good thing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatONaCowboy Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 didn't Mort say Gibbs was going to quit after last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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