KirkNC Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Patrick being a whiney backup is the only thing that will create friction. So if there is termoil in amongst the team it will be on Pat's shoulders. Will that prove that Pat should not have been benched or that he should be the starter? Quite the opposite in fact, what it will provew is that Pat is a 'me" player and not one that has the best interest of the team at heart. If there is discord in the locker room it will further diminish Pat's value as a person and team member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
318 SKIN Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I've got to jump in here in support of Jbooma and Posse81's comments. I've heard the same statement about Ramsey from sources very close to the team. I'm not trying to start anything here, but I hope everyone realizes that just because someone acts one way in front of the camera doesn't mean he is liked and respected by the team. And surely you can understand that coaches would be aware of the sentiments of the players, and that that information could very well be a big part of the decision Gibbs made yesterday. OK, sources close to the team - I really hope that these are very real sources. Because the are serious acqusations. I know the relationship PR has with Jansen & Rabach and maybe that is just between those guys. However, I don't think he is unliked by a majority of the team and he certainly doesn't whine in front of his teammates about his situation. So please you may question his ability, but please don't question him a a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 318 you act like anyone that has a negitive about Pat has just pee'd on your cat. Why the personal emotional involvement in Patrick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSCNZ20 Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 i think the team has more confidence when brunell is in.. of course they will say the right things with PR as QB.. but i remember even portis said something about brunell was not given a good chance early last year. but i think the team realizes that brunell has outplayed PR to this point... he doesn't have the huge stats but he doen't have TOs like PR either... i think brunell is better at maintaining the field position... for the D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I agree with an above post that only Ramsey can cause a problem. When Brunell was demoted, he was there for Ramsey all the time on the sidelines. I noticed several times that he was the first to greet Ramsey off the field after big plays in the preseason. To the press, he downplayed his success. If Ramsey does anything less than this now, I will lose a ton of respect for him. His role for now is to be our backup. If he's a team player, he'll embrace that role. If not, he's just another whiney kid who wants a starting job handed to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Nope Its as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmic Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 if you listened to the players including portis at the press conference they ALL pretty much said they wanted brunell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I can't sit here and let this guy say such BS comments - He is a friggin idiot! Why don't you get the facts 1st. He has never ever made 1 derogitory statement about any of his teammates or coaches and he has never made 1 excuss. Now, given what he has been through I find that quite admirable. Now if you think there is merit to the comment about the team not really liking PR - make that statement to Jansen's or Cooleys face and see what kind of response you get! GO AWAY YOU TROLL! LOL!!! now that made my day.. I don't agree with you name calling a long standing member of this community, but it was sure funny as hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
318 SKIN Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 318 you act like anyone that has a negitive about Pat has just pee'd on your cat.Why the personal emotional involvement in Patrick? I guess because it is personal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
318 SKIN Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 if you listened to the players including portis at the press conference they ALL pretty much said they wanted brunell I think this thread was weather or not this would divide the locker room - not weather or not the players wanted Brunnell or PR.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmic Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I think this thread was weather or not this would divide the locker room - not weather or not the players wanted Brunnell or PR.. um i think that means that if the players are behind mark there will be no division :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggins44 Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 IMO, there won't be a divided locker room. Gibbs talked with Moss and Patten. Plus, Brunell never created a problem when we was the backup. What Gibbs did was to prevent an internal problem. The fans and media have their own opinions. Gibbs decision is based on information that we may never know. The one thing I can do (as a fan) is to cheer the Redskins on regardless of who is QB or at any other position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
318 SKIN Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 um i think that means that if the players are behind mark there will be no division :doh: Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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