CommanderInTheRye

why is there this constant need to defend and make excuses for Rivera... <clip> yada yada repeat of stuff that everyone already knows... I love the passion! Just question your comprehension of my original posts intent. 🙂 That could well be my fault, in that I could have explained my position in a way that you might have understood it better. I'll briefly attempt to remedy that now. I didn't intend, as you put it, to defend or make excuses for Rivera? He's an adult. He knew the problems that other coaches and GM s had experienced here. No one put a gun to his head. He negotiated a lucrative contract and came here fully aware of the reputational risks involved. What you have called defending or making excuses for Rivera is actually my effort to express the shame-- I feel-- for this once proud and well respected man, who in desperate need of personal validition, resorted to making this pathetic statement... Those words are nothing less than a transparently self-serving effort to bring some minute semblance of validity to what is objectively-- his complete and total failure as coach, and general manager of this team. And that he actually went ahead and said it, hoping that it would improve his situation, even though it only served to further debase what little honor he had left, is indeed a terrible shame, and something that continues to give me pause--- even though I sstill can't help but laugh when I read it. .

Wow!! There is power in 5s today! I'm heading out to play tge MegaMillion and Powerball!! Also doing pick three-- straight 5s all the way baby! .

Not so sure about that. According to his pre draft scouting report bio... "...born on May 5th at 5 am after mother endured 5 hours of labor. Father is one of five siblings and Tress, whose name incidentally has 5 letters, is the 5th and youngest of five brothers who all played college sports. Has small tattoo of the number 5 above his heart and another large tattoo of the Roman numeral V which spans his entire back. The first time he punted in high school it went for 55 yards and was returned for 5 yards.. " .

Every time I see it I laugh at it, like we all do. Then I start to think how sad, frustrated, and unfulfilled Rivera must feel inside to have publicly said it in the first place and while I don't exactly feel sorry for him, it does give me pause. We all know he was basically a decent guy (but a poor coach) who was stuck in a nearly impossible situation. He tried valiantly m, but ultimately ineptly, and like so many others before him, he eventually succumbed to Snyder's inertial damping field that became the ruin and final resting place of many sterling reputations and careers. Shame really. .

I'm excited for when the training camp cuts start up. We will have second priority (only behind Carolina) from now, up until the 1st game of the season. With APs sharp eye for talent, we should definitely improve our team with another 5 to 8 surprise cut type players. I just hope 1 or 2 of them can at least provide solid o-line depth, even if they don't immediately start for us.

100% of us on this board won that lottery. Beautiful! You get it! We ALL are winners! Most of us live defeated lives of quiet desperation, eternally fearful of forces beyond our understanding when all the while every conceivable opportunity is right in front of us despite the illusion of present circumstance. We are luminous beings of eternal light yet so few us choose to glow. Every moment is a precious gift. Why not just go for it and dazzle the world with your brilliance! Sadly so many of you out there have lofty ideas, but somehow repeatedly you undisciplined folks get distracted and lose your way… Now, where the heck did I put that last bumper of Colt 45? There she is… come to papa (gulp). Now what was I saying? —hick— Doesn't matter...glug.. glug... Ahhhh... ice cold and goes down sooo smoooth...now that's what I call real living... -hick- I can always get back to dazzling tomorrow… Or the day after. (glugata glugata glugata…) .

I actually agree that his being cut is absolutely improbable, but improbable things are a certainty in this life-- each of us are living proof of that truth. Think about it. A man produces approximately 500 billion sperm in his lifetime. What are the chances that one of those sperms ended up producing any of us? Yet here we stand. XXXX That aside as a purely intellectual exercise here are my off the top of my head (or some might say out the bottom of my arse) guesses on the percentages for different outcomes: 1. 10% Forbes is on the final roster and develops into a superstar exceptional cb. Known for making incredible game breaking interceptions-- just like he did on college 2. 20% Forbes is on the final roster and develops into a decent, but not great player. 3. 30% Forbes is on the final roster but he's just a guy. Nothing special, but an NFL replacement value, middle of the road, win some- lose some, very average corner. 4. 30% Forbes plays poorly during training camp and pre-season and we have multiple new corners who are much better. AP executes a fair trade and he goes on to another team. 5. 10% It just doesn't work out for Forbes. We can't fix him and nobody wants to trade for him. A couple of rookie free agents are playing great so after debating Internally we make the tough call abd cut the kid outright. He gets picked up to another practice squad then bounces around awhile and finally goes on to his life's work outside football. .

Fair enough. It's definitely highly unlikely that a 1st round pick is dismissed before his 2nd season. But if it were to happen the perfect conditions would be a scenario where: 1. The GM and coach who originally drafted the player are no longer involved with the team. 2. The player drafted played poorly and never established himself during his first season. 3. The team acquired new talent that fits their system much better both in the draft and via free agency. 4. The player in question performs so poorly throughut mini-camp and pre-season that the new coaches feel he is a liability without upside (see original hypothetical). 5. No one wants to trade for the player (see hypothetical). 6. Cutting the player sends a powerful message to the team. .

You are answering a question without giving consideration to the conditions which I presented in my original post. Let's go back to my original post for clarification purposes. In the entire post there is one single word that I emboldened for emphasis, because without it, my hypothetical argument could be misunderstood, and easily dismissed, as a more general, non-contingent argument. Which is essentially what your post above has achieved. That critical word is "if". Here's the unedited paragraph as originally presented, with emphasis unchanged. "IF after multiple mini-camps, training camp, and pre-season games, Quinn, and his defensive staff, feel that Forbes is broken beyond repair, and he will never hack it in the NFL and AP tries to trade him, but gets no takers..." Those are the conditions under which I arrive at my conclusion as follows... "--they will keep a more promising player on the roster and cut him without remorse." So, my direct question to you is would you still be of the belief that "Emmanuel Forbes is too good to cut" even if the conditions layed forth in my original post were present? ie: 1. After all mini-camp evaluations are concluded 2. After training camp evaluations and pre-season games have concluded 3. The defensive staff concludes that Forbes is "broken beyond repair" and can't play effectively in their defense 4. Head coach Dan Quinn similarly concludes that Forbes is "broken beyond repair" and can't play effectively in his defense. 5. Adam Peters then attempts to trade this player, that can't play effectively in the team's defense, but no other team makes an offer for Forbes. So, under the conditions in my original post would you still refuse to cut Forbes, because he was once a successful college player, and is as you put it "too good to cut", or would you move forward with other players that the coaches believe can be more effective than Forbes, today, in the actual NFL? .

Magic is a man of his word. He promised Terry he would get together with him when they met at the new owners' introductory press conference and now they have... .

I wouldn’t count on that, and Forbes definitely better not. IF after multiple mini-camps, training camp, and pre-season games, Quinn, and his defensive staff, feel that Forbes is broken beyond repair, and he will never hack it in the NFL and AP tries to trade him, but gets no takers-- they will keep a more promising player on the roster and cut him without remorse. Message sent... No free, on the job, remedial training rides for anyone, under this regime. This aint Rivera, and his bumbling buffoon show, making decisions anymore. There's a new sheriff in town, and he's running a meritocracy. Spots will be earned-- without deference given to when, or even whether, players were drafted.

Rivera says he has NO REGRETS about drafting Chase Young over superstar QB Justin Herbert. Makes sense. Chase had outstanding position flex-- he could play DE or linebacker, (equally poorly). Whereas Herbert was relegated to just being an outstanding pro bowl qb, who doesn’t even play special teams, let alone another position. Those guys are a dime a dozen. .

Ha ha! Hey let's not let the facts interfere with a spit take worthy creative post. lol Good one @RandyHolt you got me good, but I enjoyed it all the same.

JP Finlay on Mitch Rales' (co-owner 2nd only to Harris) recent podcast where he discussed how they intend to rebuild the fan base after decades of neglect and mismanagement. Rales, to me, is first and foremost, an outstanding human being who happens to also be a great businessman. Those two things don't often go hand in hand. He's the perfect, behind the scenes, compliment to Josh Harris. A true mensch. .

My mind is boggled. That's almost impossible to imagine. He can just about touch his toes while standing up straight, without having to bend his waist. Maybe he's the next step in human evolution from homo sapiens to homo superior. Wow!

lol I guess post-draft, "o-line thread migration" has replaced "qb thread migration" as the new flavor of the season, (at least until Jayden actually gets in a game and throws his first interception 😄). The craziest thing is that this is a thread about a nickle corner-- how it morphed into o-line talk is completely beyond me.

Either pigs are flying or that devious s.o.b. Mike Florio is trying to reverse jinx our ass into a bad season. Guess who all of a sudden thinks we dominated the draft... Nn I still don't trust him. He's got something up his sleeve for sure! .

Hoffman interviews Standig on what took place behind the scenes of our draft...

Yeah, that last pick it sounded like he might have been crying. He was so happy and his family were really cheering hard. I wish we had video of that. It must be agonizing waiting through the whole draft hoping that somehow you might hear your name and then when a few pics are left and you've just about given up hope the phone rings. On the other end of the spectrum, I felt like Nasty Newton was pissed off that he didn't hear his name called until the second round.

Commanders just released the full video of all the draft day phone calls...

Thanks, bro! Looking forward to watching it when I get home.

I wonder if Jayden was a Ducks fan growing up?

Call me a sentimental old fool, but I can never get enough of these "we just drafted you!" videos. Here's a compilation of Peters welcoming each of our draft picks to their future... There's something about having a dream that you worked so hard at for years, and finally seeing it manifest that reawakens the essential "thing" inside of all of us that drives us to be more than just the sum of our collective parts. I guess it's kind of why I love hokey dream quest films like Rocky so much.

He is a great athlete and this regime definitely places a high value on athleticism. However, I think they value character, ethical behavior, being forthright, transparent, and fully accountable for your actions, even more, and there are significant indications that Jamin may well be critically deficient in those qualities.

Chase Daniels on how Kliff Kingsbury will design an offense to cater to Jayden's strengths. . Ff