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Clark was predicted first round at the beginning of that college season and fell to the second last pick of the second. And as I stated with Le'el, he STATED that if he was drafted he would forego the season, not sign and reenter the draft. It wasn't worth it knowing he wasn't going to sign. There are rookie caps for all rounds and his max would have been minimal in the late rounds. It was clear he wasn't going to sign with whomever drafted him. Caleb, I do agree with however. He didn't have a long history of off field altercations except for that one heinous act. But, no, i'm not missing your point. I understand that there is a chance you hit on one of the dropping troublemakers and you look like a genius. But there are a LOT of guys who drop for similar reasons and don't work out. I would say a majority don't.

I got your point, and my point was for every guy that drops because of character issues and atones there is someone who should have dropped because of character issues and didn't and the team got burnt. In other words, you never really know who is going to make amends. La'el Collins, BTW, didn't get drafted because he told his agent that if he did, he would sit out and re-enter the next year's draft. Would you have risked a first or second on him? You look at guys like Frank Clark on Seattle who fell to the third because of issues and while he's been a decent player, the dude has been nothing but a locker room cancer, including punching a fellow Seahawk in the face this offseason. Dorial Beckham Green was another one who dropped and he's on what his 4th team already? Karlos Williams another one.

For every Honey Badger there's a dozen Johnny Manziels and Lawrence Phillips. Hindsight is 20/20 so why not just say for every undrafted rookie that succeeded why didn't we risk a 7th on them?

I bow down.

Either you're a liar or how did you break 20,000 for the Browns?

I'd be thrilled with that however I think your FA numbers in terms of money are lower than what they will actually get.

I gave up next year's first but i don't care Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 19 (T.B.): Zach Cunningham, ILB, Vanderbilt (A) Round 1 Pick 25 (ATL): Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan (B) Round 2 Pick 19 (T.B.): Jake Butt, TE, Michigan (A) Round 2 Pick 21 (G.B.): Budda Baker, FS, Washington (A) Round 3 Pick 16: Jarron Jones, DT, Notre Dame (A-) Round 3 Pick 21 (G.B.): Caleb Brantley, DT, Florida (A+) Round 4 Pick 6: D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas (A+) Round 4 Pick 16: Braden Smith, OG, Auburn (A) Round 5 Pick 12: Jehu Chesson, WR, Michigan (B+) Round 5 Pick 16: Brandon Kublanow, C, Georgia (F) Round 6 Pick 16: Channing Stribling, CB, Michigan (A-) Round 6 Pick 20: Clint Van Horn, OT, Marshall (D-) Round 7 Pick 16: Aarion Penton, CB, Missouri (A-)

Swinging gate just took on a whole new meaning.

We don't want that.

I have friends that are fans of other teams (Chiefs, Dolphins, Steelers) and they all say the exact same thing. there is no conspiracy theory.

This is why no one takes "conspiracy theories" seriously. He's been popped before for weed. IF you're putting ANYTHING in your body during the season then you deserve to get suspended. At least we have 2 weeks to get a new RT acclimated.

Anyone who thinks the refs have it out for us, Oakland just tied the NFL record of 22 penalties in a game. ... and now set the record with 23

He's probably got 20K in his wallet