TheGreatBuzz

I'd have to think more about it but initially I'd so I don't have a huge problem with that. But what is the point? I go back to how many round are mass shooters firing? Are you going to only let someone keep 20 rounds in their house? Or is it something that just makes you feel better? Not trying to be sparky, I'm seriously asking what's the point?

Depends on the caliber. .380 is difficult to find sometimes for example. I have 3 guns currently and can think of two more I'd like. I have a Walther CCP, an AR-15 franken-rifle, and just bought a Glock 42. I'd like to get a 12 gauge and a .357 revolver. But I know people with 20+ in their safe. My amount of ammo on hand varies greatly on sales I find and how much I go to the range. But like I said, I'm seriously looking at ordering in bulk online. You can 60+% per round when ordering in bulk like that. The guys at work apparently ordered before I got there and got 10,000 rounds. Saved almost 80% per round when compared to a box of 100.

Well I need to be prepared incase I find a man with 6 fingers on his right hand..... Well assume I go to the range twice a month. I think that is reasonable (maybe even responsible) for someone who both enjoys it and want to be proficient if I am going to carry outside of my home. Now a normal trip to the range is usually 100 rounds per firearm I own. I own 3 guns. Do the math. Actually I probably won't go that often but close to it.

I wouldn't be surprised if it hit at least close to 5000 this year. My wife is wanting to become more proficient so that will be a decent part of it. Also in the past the amount I shot was limited due to finances. Now that I can afford it, I plan on shooting more. Thank you for admitting that you aren't an expert in this subject. But that affects if you (not you personally, just less informed people) should be making the "rules".

I get what you are saying and at first I thought the same thing. But then I thought more. If mass shooter aren't using those quantities, than why track it? For other people, I almost prefer they buy and USE large amounts. If you were trapped somewhere and had to pick the person to defend you, do you want the person that shoots 25 shots a year or the one that shoots thousands? To me, some one buying that much shows a person investing in proficiency with their deadly weapon (or the freak preparing for the zombies). That's the main reason I'm looking at buying a large amount. If I'm going to shoot enough to be skilled, I'll buy in bulk and save 60%. Does that thought line change your opinion at all? BTW ammo does have a shelf life. Not in the sense that milk does but it certainly becomes less reliable with age. I wouldn't defend my home with anything over a year old.

So I thought some more about one of the proposals that had been brought up here. It had been talked about limiting the amount of ammo a person can purchase and possibly tracking large ammo purchases. At first I had agreed with it without much thought. I have never made a online bulk order of ammo before. Now I am looking into doing just that. I will probably be ordering several thousand rounds of various calibers (bulk orders save 60+% of the cost and I will probably go in with a few friends and split the shipping costs). This is what made me think about the earlier proposal. Should I be on a watch list? The issue I have with it is what makes that person more of a concern? If you are going to set the limit at anything over 200 rounds, are mass shooters carrying more than that? I don't think so. Ammo gets heavy quick, especially when you are carrying it in individual magazines. Source: http://www.snopes.com/orlando-mass-shooting-math-doesnt-add-up/ So if he only shot 200 rounds (forgetting that the police fired some of those shots) where would you set the limit on ammo purchases? I can't find any source regarding how many rounds the average mass shooter fires, but I did find a few articles where some fired "over a hundred rounds" which makes me think less than 200. I went to the range with my wife last night and went through 150 rounds in about an hour so I don't think a limit that low is reasonable. Are we wanting to limit/track large purchases because we think there is a cause and effect or because it sounds good and makes us feel better? I have changed my mind to now being against this proposal. But I can be brought back with a good argument. I'm just interested to hear other peoples side.

I don't feel like I needed defending but thanks. I just find it humorous that one party gets upset when the other wants to redefine a right but think another right is off limits from further discussion or restriction. I'll let you figure out what side and what issue I'm talking about.

I was going to make the point about refighting the same fights with abortion and gun control but it seems I've been beaten to it.

I believe he is referring to losing your rights to own a gun for domestic violence misdemeanors. The SC just ruled on that and it's in a few posts above.

I know article 50 is what they invoke to leave the EU. I'm wondering about shadow cabinet also.

So I keep seeing about a petition for a remote that has 3 million signatures. Assuming you don't know how those 3 million originally voted, isn't that just a drop in the bucket considering the number of people that voted? I don't see how that number is even worth news coverage.

No but the kids are old enough to put some thought into the combo for the safe with the guns. Honestly wouldn't be that hard for them to figure out if they tried. I keep the ammo in a safe with a key that stays with me. I think keeping the two separate is an added level of safety. And I can't fit the guns in the ammo safe. It's just a small fire rated safe. I use that so the fireman aren't in danger if my home burns down. The gun safe isn't fire rated.

Glad the mother is being charged. People need to be more responsible securing their weapons when kids are around. I keep a loaded weapon accessible in my house but I don't have children. When my sister comes down with her kids, ALL weapons go unloaded in one safe. All ammo goes in a different safe.

Sacks please tell me are being sarcastic.

Yes. And I have my CCW so it takes a lot less time. Walked out with a new glock.

Just came back from local gun show. People seemed a lot less likely to make deals. Most prices were pretty firm. That's unusual.

Not a fan of the Hawaii law. If I were living there, I'd be considering moving.

What is the difference between the UK, Great Britain, and England? I thought I knew but the way the news is thinking im n other so sure. And how would London break of? Isn't it a city in a country like New York city in the US?

Without semantics, just general terms, I would say no.

Forgive my ignorance on financial matters, much less international financial matters, but it seems everyone is saying the UK economy is going to take a huge hit. What are the chances this hurts the EU more? Can the Euro stand when you remove a big economy from the equation? Why or why not? Help me understand.

So what is the dems problem with Rep. Jolly's proposed Bill? HB 5544 I believe.

Surprised this isn't getting more attention.

I used armed civilians because that's what Burgold and I were discussing. I think I have stated my position about requiring training enough times that I don't need to repeat it again.

I was about half way through your response when that question came to me and I don't know the answer either. I do know that FT Hood and the Navy Yard did NOT have armed "civilians" (I'm including non-security military members in that for this discussion. Military isn't allowed to carry on base. Makes sense, right?) in the area. They had to wait for base security to respond. I know Sandy Hook and Aurora did not have reports of an armed person in the area. Orlando is the only case that I can think of where it was reported of a "good guy with a gun" in the area that didn't stop the threat. But you are right, there could be others.

Believe me when I say this isn't meant to be seen as blowing you off. I'm sure I will appreciate what you posted but my computer is slow as crap at work right now and won't stream video. Can you give me a short rundown of what is in the video? If not, I understand but I won't be able to address it until tonight.