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Makes sense to me. Good logic there. I was one of the ones who lost their seats in the endzone last offseason, and was moved to a new section (422) at the 44$/seat price. there's a couple different ways of looking at that. first - they got me. i bit hard and am now paying significantly more to be in the lower level. it's also a nice advantage of having your seats taken from you sucks for the people who don't get into the lower level because we were leap frogged in front of them (probably) for the sole purpose of making more money per seat lol

yes, it was part of the discussion for the last two pages or so. i got the same email and called as well. ticket sales are quite a bit worse than I though if this email went to every upper level ticket holder...

i specifically recall seeing the offer that new season ticket holders would get a jersey of whoever the 2nd round pick was, which obviously is now an RG3 jersey. i do not recall it mentioning elite (there is no more authentic...) - i'd be really surprised if it was the elite, it's probably the regular one (i think they're called 'game' jerseys now) but i can't remember. i can't find where i saw that but I do remember sending it to some friends, mostly as a joke (there's no way they'd get season tickets again)

awesome. thanks for the info. so i guess that explains it. it comes down to people in the lower level flat out not renewing their tickets and not having enough people in the upper level willing to move into the lower level.

hrm... are the dream seats typically full? i figured those would be empty like the club level due to cost?

oh people stand the entire time on the sidelines? i was not aware of that. that kinda sucks. if everyone sat down they'd see the same thing and be much more comfortable... thinks like that make you really appreciate the sit down and sit back rules at the verizon center...

are the new tv's adequate for watching play on the other side of the field? i've only sat down there a few times, but it was all before the new TV's. the old TV's didn't help at all. i also didn't have glasses back then which i now have so they should help too lol!

i think because if you're above row 16 in the upper level you're not supposed to indicate you want to go to the lower level - it says so in the upgrade. so, someone like me, doesn't really have the option of indicating that (if you follow the instructions). and i was in the same boat as you in terms of being upper level towards the 50 or lower level endzone. hopefully i don't regret my decision.

Thanks! i'm excited... hopefully i'll be out of the endzone soon and moving down the sideline. I've always had reservations about going from upper level sideline to lower level endzone. we have 3 tickets, i'm hoping that allows us to fit into holes others can't. I also look forward to getting home quicker. From the upper level it was an hour and a half from the time we started heading down the ramp. I'm hopping to shave it down to an hour since it should mean beating some traffic out of the lots.

I attribute it to two things: 1 - people not renewing their tickets in the lower bowl 2 - having an account that has been with the redskins since 1965. If you pay on time upgrades are done by seniority... they sent out a batch of emails to people saying there were lower level seats available. i imagine they went to the some x number of oldest accounts still in the upper level. I didn't do anything. I got an email and followed the instructions. BTW they called me 3 times between January and March trying to get me to sign a 3 year contract for club level seats in exchange for being promised to be moved into the lower level automatically when it was up. They also offered to move me into the lower level last year, although some have suggested that was primarily due to me being one of the people who's seats were removed last offseason. Who knows. Unfortunately I was taking on a new job with a start up company and couldn't justify the risk of the price increase when I was already rolling the dice on helping start a new company. Now things are more settled.

upgrades are done by seniority for those who paid on time. assuming you paid on time, since you're a new account holder i imagine they'll plug you into the best seats available. i imagine it wouldn't be endzone since those sections in the upper level are significantly smaller than they used to be. but yes, you wont know what your seats are until they upgrade everyone else then assign new accounts their seats. at least thats my understanding.

Well, I was in the upper level of the upper bowl. It tells you specifically that if you're in that section you can only be upgraded to rows 1-16 in the upper level. So I had to call to get the lower level. I followed the instructions in fear of being skipped for now following instructions lol

I just got a 'thank you for paying, upgrades will be processed shortly' email. however i had a certain block that contained this: Called, and I got a "TBD" section in the lower level endzone. Said upgrades should be processed in May and we should receive specific seats then. But he also said Tickets will arrive in July and they never show up before August so maybe he's a month on the optimistic side. yay!

ah thats right, last payment for the payment plan hasn't been processed yet. thanks for that, no point in checking until at least then

sorry if i missed something and an repeating questions but... it's safe to say upgrades have started? based on all the parking upgrades i would think so, and I believe S&S said his location is no longer on his invoice? Are other people in the lower level seeing the same thing? I still see mine, but i'm upper level and we're (obviously) last

interesting. i have 3 tickets, but this is my first year trying to upgrade. i imagine it has little to do with a specific number, or whether it's odd/even, but more to do with how you fit into the holes when you come up in the system. if there's a hole for 3 tickets somewhere, you stand a better chance at getting them since I imagine the # of people with just 3 tickets is small percentage wise. i would also imagine having a lot of tickets (say 8+) makes it harder to upgrade since you need a bigger hole to be able to move.

For those of you asking about B3, go here http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?147933-Everything-You-Ever-Wanted-To-Know-About-FedExField in your browser hold down control, and hit f - this will bring up search. Type in 'Parking' it'll take you to the parking section of the post. It has a map, and explanation, of all the parking. PS: MTH's thread is extremely informative. You should read the entire thing just so you know, even if some of the information doesn't apply to you. you may be able to help someone in the future, or make a better informed decision because you read that post.

i think they took them out in the 300 level? not entirely sure though. i think your seats are safe. i'm curios if the 0.0 charge is the place holder for the actual charge. sometimes if you use a debit card at a restaurant you'll see a charge for 99.99 (Or some other number) even though your meal was only 50$. it's a place holder where they're just checking it's a valid card/account/etc, and the price is updated later.

S&S i don't come here much anymore, so i'm only going to address these two points... i think by and large we agree with each other, and for the most part the rest of our conversation is eithe resolved, due to a misunderstanding, or one/both of us overreacting and not worth continuing. that said. Sure. i agree with that. They said it was because the account was so old, and didn't mention any other reason. Sure, it could have been because they were removing my seats - but at that point they hadn't even told me they were removing my seats. But yes, in hind sight that could have been the reason why; but even if that was why, then it's super underhanded by the ticket office. Yes, based on last year thats what it means. i'm in the upper level, my tickets are still there Based on last year they did the entire lower bowl before they touched the upper level - which, of course, makes sense. keep us posted!

yeah, my favorite is when people get on about how fedex field can't be loud.... you clearly haven't been to a game that was worth being loud at, because it can certainly get extremely loud. just so happens there have been a grand total of like 4 games worth getting loud about since the stadium opened. one of which was this one: most of you probably know it as this, starting at the 2 minute mark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1uEyZKJ0o8 that was the most ridiculous game i've seen live.

SonnyAndSam, sometimes you're an incredibly thoughtful poster. But other times you just post nonsense for the sake of posting nonsense and try to paint every single person as a complainer or constant snyder basher and it's really annoying. I'm aware of what the $3 dollar ticket fee is for, I was pointing out it doesn't make much sense based on how every other system works. Normally it's a per transaction fee, but the way it's breaking down is just not typical. It's $3. I wasn't complaining so much as trying to point out that someone doing 3 transactions is paying the same as someone doing 1, which seems odd. I'm well aware of the cost of developers, servers, bandwidth, etc. I'm an IT consultant. I've never suggested Snyder foot the bill for everything, but please continue with the mocking sarcasm I suppose it amuses some. Everyone has had an opportunity to renew their tickets. People who haven't renewed yet either aren't going to, or are playing the system. It's well known and documented throughout the forums and other places that holding out can get you benefits others don't get even though they follow the rules. So let's not pretend that the reason they can't run it now is because not everyone's had a chance. The reason they wont run it now is because they aren't satisfied with how many people have committed to tickets, and they're holding off until the last minute so they can persuade/bribe more people into tickets. That's the only reason. To give you an example: if the redskins were in a situation where if you didn't renew by april 1st, they could drop you and have every vacant seat actually filled by committed people (read: they pay the invoice over the phone immediately) by the 15th (thats two weeks), they would drop anyone who didn't renew by the 1st and let all the new people in. They'd do it in a heartbeat, and you know they would. The only reason they let people slide is because they can't fill those seats. The upgrade is done (according to the redskins) in terms of how 'seniority'. I've yet to see any evidence that someone who didn't pay by april first was not allowed an upgrade because of that. I agree with you, that there's nothing wrong with upgrading them afterwards. I just don't see how it works that way. And they do not get the benefit of the doubt because of their history; they've earned the reputation they get, and putting it in a bullet point on a flyer doesn't mean that reputation is on them. The burden is on the team to prove that they don't reward people for paying late anymore, and they've yet to prove it. And I'm not telling anyone that you can still get an upgrade with late payment. In fact, I even referenced that the Redskins say you won't. I'm pointing out that history shows that not paying your invoice on time results in a call (or multiple calls) from the redskins with addition perks added that the rest of us don't get. My boss used to have tickets as well. He still got the calls last summer, mid summer, about what they can do to get him back into the stadium. He hasn't received any call this year that I'm aware of, but it's only April. We've got all the way until the start of regular season. Which reminds me - wasn't it last season late payers were allowed to renew up until the week before the home opener but didn't have to pay for preseason? Sounds like rewarding late payers to me. My green parking pass reward was the alternative to the reward I couldn't afford at the time (wish I would have taken it) which was to move to the lower level side lines. I've posted before about that offer. According to the ticket rep, the offer was made because of the age of my account and they were genuinely curious if I was ready to finally relocate my seats (hilarious, considering they were forcing reloation but didn't mention any of that). I said I couldn't afford the 99$/seat tickets because I was in transition between jobs and starting a new company that may or may not take off; turns out it did take off, and I didn't get the same option this year, I wish I would have rolled the dice but what can you do? So instead they gave me a green parking pass. It was to get me to renew my tickets, and at that point I hadn't heard a single word about seats being ripped out; not even sure it was in the media yet. So your seats are indeed gone? That (in the past) indicates the upgrade has started, which is great news. edit: finally, my opinion is based solely on what i've experienced, people I know have experienced, and what has been posted here in the past. I'd love for everything I just said to no longer be true from this year forward. It'd be the way it's supposed to be - and I'll be very happy. But - they need to prove that things have changed, and rules are enforced, before I start just believing that the system isn't corrupt. It's been corrupt for a long long time, and even if they do fix the above mentioned items they still have to fix the fact that they sell large chunks of seats in prime GA seating locations to brokers, while the rest of us get held up in terms of upgrading our seats because of it. ---------- Post added April-6th-2012 at 11:33 AM ---------- I agree with you, except i don't think it'll take until 2027. It'll take until there is a buyer that is willing to buyout the remainder of the lease. DC wanted to, but buying out half of the lease (15 years worth) is just too much. I bet when we get down to less than 10 years left someone will be willing to do it. I don't think the stadium is nearly as bad as everyone else seems to. Most of the complaints i hear are either caused by unrealistic expectations, blown out of proportion and are made by people who don't actually go to the stadium on a regular basis and just listen to the media, or would magically go away if the team wasn't as bad as it's been.

probably not since most of the upper level endzone has been removed. lol

so if you split your payment in 3 the total fee stays the same, 1$ is applied to each payment? thats interesting. I paid $3 and paid in full. Doesn't really matter, but you'd think if it was a transaction fee it'd be x per transaction. doesn't really matter though. as for your seats being gone, are you going to account management -> view invoices, and seeing what it says for your 2012 invoice? thats how you check. The whole log in and don't see anything on the main screen thing is normal. It'd be nice if they just ran it now, let us all know, and let people who pay late deal with whatever is left, but they wont. They promise every year that they're going to stop letting late payers slide, or at the very least stop rewarding them, but it never happens. Hell, last year I didn't renew when I found out about my seats being removed and not getting any answers from the ticket office. paid 2 months late and got green parking (yeah, you know the lots they say are full and you have to wait years for while you sit in grey?) as a bonus - i didn't even have parking at any point in time before. oh well.

well, i mean you can use the calculator and come up with the same numbers i do. it depends on how many seats you want, in what section, and how many parking passes (if you get one). its 704 a seat, with tax, for the cheaper seats and 869 a seat for the better seats. that doesn't include parking or the shipping and handling fee, or the tax associated with either being added to the cost.

Yup just added that lol edit: OH! and 10% PG county amusement tax. Can't forget that!