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I’ll give the Chicago police credit. They showed up quickly and shut down the roads and made a huge presence but didn’t instigate anything. Let them do their thing and convinced them to move out of the roadway and take their protest to a less problematic area for the rest of us.

Colonization has many different forms it strikes me that these particular posters are ignoring that. we didn’t call them the United States but we got as close as you can. and when you consider the Cold War that followed (which you can argue never ended)… I mean we have decades upon decades of the USA and USSR/Russia/Communism fighting over essentially the entire globe. and for this “but we care and do it the right way” nonsense, we’ve overthrown democratically elected leaders to install dictators simply because we believed it would benefit us. there’s nothing moralistic about it. It’s just modern colonization and global domination in a slightly different form to tamp down international criticism just enough to get away with it. it’s baffling this is lost on so many

was supposed to take the kids on the bus to the planetary museum and other things but they’ve blocked the route and ruined that.

Hah. I’ve found myself in the middle of the protest at the art institute of Chicago

@PeterMP i understand. Again - I see the differences. I just also see similarities. and I think most people agree, if we could agree there are similarities, that Israel has a history of being significantly more reckless with their “national security” moves our “national security” moves, warts and all, show way more finesse than theirs. And even we have issues with, for instance, having an eye on natural resources and how it can benefit us…

I guess where we disagree is that you seem to think this is a case of change that’s permanent and caused exactly by what you outline i don’t think it’s permanent and I think you’re leaving out a lot of details that are important and conflict with the specific way you word it I don’t think as a nation we learned some valuable lesson that carries us through the rest of time about what we do. I think it’s totally reasonable we’d take more land from Mexico if, in the moment, we felt we had a reason to get away with it and it would be a good idea for us projecting power and spheres of influence and price of oil or other resources are just the easy to list things you’re leaving out of the overall situations And to build the sphere of influence to compete with the soviets/communism which we continued outside of Germany via NATO. A tactic we are still using the further confront the Russians to this very day.

Idk if you added this or I missed i but I do see a distinction its shocking to me you don’t see the similarities This is wasted effort given your last series of posts. If you’re gonna make my opinions up for me then I have no desire to discuss anything with you much less read anymore of your posts.

Right because they were far way instead we installed the government we preferred so we could project power and pay global politics games. we have a well established history of taking land adjacent to us as we see fit. 🤷‍♂️ edit: also, maybe I’m wrong, but I do seem to recall us taking some pacific islands and keeping them at least for a while.

Drug cartel that was elected to run the country as its official government **

For comparison purposes if Mexico did to us what Hamas did we would have had our people back within a week and then spent the next few months debating what we’re going to do with this new land we just acquired (new states!), and also debating whether we take the rest of Mexico or just send it back to the Stone Age and let them have fun figuring out what to do with that. and the vast majority of the country would support that. Knowing/believing that, I have no interest in judging other people for behaving in exactly the same way (again, I believe) we would behave in that situation. And I feel pretty good about believing that’s how we’d behave, cause it’s basically what we spent the last 20 years doing in Iraq and Afghanistan. the key difference being those countries aren’t neighbors so instead of taking the land we tried to install a government we thought would be friendly to us.

this isn’t apples to oranges. It’s the same damn thing. Just because you throw genocide around here and use racism/sexism/fascism elsewhere doesn’t mean it’s not a double standard at its core. the bottom line is generally people engage in generalization when it suits them and point out and argue against generalization when it suits them. it’s a pretty core and easy to observe tactic in humans across all demos and topics. Because people are inherently lazy and generalizing and using labels is easy and convenient. That’s all I was pointing out. I’ve got no dog in this fight, despite what some people try to claim in their arguments. I don’t give a **** about either side, because both sides suck for a long list of reasons. If the USA didn’t send another dollar, I’m fine with it. It Israel wipes the Palestinians off the map - whatever, I totally understand why they’d do it. If is Middle East rallies to wipe Israel off the map - again, totally understand why they’d do it. im capable of being sad about it, or thinking it sucks, and wishing there was a path to peace, while also recognizing that what’s going on and more importantly why each side has their current motives. im not going to ignore that these people willfully put a terrorist organization in charge. And said terrorist did what terrorists do, and the consequences are pretty ****ing predictable when you attack a vastly superior (militarily) country and kidnap their people. just like I’m not going to ignore that when you oppress people and take their land the way Israel has over decades, that you’re going to create a rise in terrorist organizations that seek to harm you in the worst ways they are capable of. just like I don’t ignore that 9/11 and Islamic terrorism and extremism in some/many not insignificant ways, is tied to our governments long history of ****ing around over there and our allegiance to Israel. im genuinely surprised Israel didn’t immediate wipe them off the map and claim 100% of Gaza as new land. From the start I figured this was the excuse they needed, and they wouldn’t wait for another opportunity. I figured they’d seize the moment and ask for forgiveness later.

Ok… I’ll accept this clarification and say that’s fair but, I think to continue to be fair, I’ll point out the sentence before the one I quote from you about taking protestors seriously and was ”Seeing USC cancel graduation over protests of this war.” so, yes, I went forward believing we were talking about the college protestors. but in the general sense I appreciate protestors and take them seriously. There are certain details and context where I change that stance.

If only you applied that same standard to others that may not align 100% with you (I see you get the point I was making, though it’s unclear what you’ll do with that point going forward 😂)

This is just the start. This **** is going to get out of control quick. I’ve been prepping my staff for months about this stuff. At the start there was some eye rolling but so far my concerns have been proven to be valid as the use of generative AI for malicious purposes continues to grow. just last week I gave company wide training on how everyone’s social media use, our relationships with public figures or well known/active organizations, the large effort of putting out content as well as everyone’s background publishing articles since college… has created an immense amount of data to use to train a generative ai model to sound and speak like them, or their clients, or their clients staff. I think I finally scared the **** out of them and the eye rolling has stopped. Lots of people stoped by my office or called later in the week to talk to me about it. you all surely remember years ago when someone was able to trick two NFL gms into believe the other wanted to negotiate a trade, and then got them both on the phone talking to each other about it? that was funny but this new technology is going to cause havoc in the private sector when people that know how to use it correctly start doing so.

it’s a double standard. People don’t have a problem pointing at the actions of a few at certain right wing protests and using it to generalize about everyone. one of these exact posters literally argued with me when I said not everyone that identifies as a republican is bad and evil. and I get the point - generalizing is bad. But miss me with the selective application of that standard. (and to be fair - it’s a double stand many of us fall into using when it suits our needs and I’m not special and immune to that silliness anymore than anyone else)

I understand what you’re saying - but I think it’s a bit disingenuous to pretend this is the only reason to write off disgruntled college students when it comes to a several decades long geopolitical cluster****. there are tons of things where that specific demo becomes eye roll worthy. Just like there are instances with the older generations that are eye roll worthy - or conservatives - or liberals. I think the demo we’re talking about does provide value in multiple ways. Especially on social issues that challenge the traditional norms of this country (racism, sexism, the lgbtq stuff) but this isn’t one of them (to me)

You want to be on the side of terrorist orgs be my guest

Was Bernie sanders one of the college protestors you asked if we should take serious? no. Of course he wasn’t. So of course he wasn’t what we’re talking about. also not sure what being Jewish has to do with it. I don’t value opinions differently based on whether the person is Jewish, Palestinian, etc. I have Palestinian friends - I extend the curiously of keeping my mouth shut when they discuss this because I know they have family in Gaza (meaning I totally understand how emotionally wound up over all this they are, and try to be respectful and a friend as a third party instead of engaging in the conversation like a debate.) But that’s about all ones ethnicity matters to me. but whether he should be taken serious as a general question? It’s probably a good idea to not take him too seriously.

This is such a nonsensical argument it’s a war and judging the goodness of either side based on how effective they are at waging war is totally nonsense. We lost just under 5k troops in Iraq and Afghanistan over 20 years and they lost hundreds of thousands. You want to use your stupid as **** metric to decide who’s good and bad in that conflict? I generally put significantly less value on people that chose to align with terrorists. I understand why many people don’t feel that way. But I do.

They can do whatever they want, I’m not required to care. The question was when they should be taken seriously and the answer is never. If they want to be taken seriously maybe they should start by acting serious and showing serious understanding. im not really the person that has an issue here. They (and you all by extension apparently) are the ones that seem unhappy with the results. Maybe consider something other than blaming others when what you’re doing isn’t working. and taking queues on serious issues by disgruntled college students is probably quite the mistake but have at it 😂

We select jj McCarthy

Chicago wife’s graduating from her doctorate program dragging the two rug rats with so they can watch

They need to pick before my plane takes off… come on….

You are my favorite poster

Rise after run water the whole time live on a well so lol at you for paying for your water Also gross you don’t rinse