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We shot down a commercial airliner (80’s I think?) with automated defense systems. That stuff’s not to be taken lightly. Easy to make mistakes. (These are things you discuss when working through autonomous system design in college)

Until we have a reason to avoid our new policy. War doesn’t have rules. They’re not rules if people don’t play by them unless it’s convenient to do so. and they’re not rules when there’s essentially zero enforcement for breaking them. 🤷‍♂️

It seems to me for the most part they’re just opposite democrats, and that’s all that supports their opinions fundamentally Reverse psychology used on a 5 year old would work, if it wasn’t 40% of the population

I mean with 100 mil over 40 you’re pulling 200k a month plus an immediate 10 mil cash injections. enjoy your Malibu though

Yeah there’s multiple options that im not sure why you’d pick one when there’s a better alternative most of them suck but I’ll take the money and never getting sick again.

10 mil No sickness 100 mil over 40 years

The sons are in Hamas and are terrorists. We drone strike weddings when it suits our needs. 🤷‍♂️

I haven’t done the digging but I have, for a while now, had the sense that if our government would do more about breaking up monopolies, problems like that would solve themselves.

Also with labor and parts going up, if your not totalled your repairs are quite a bit more expensive these days.

Well, what I was thinking is the used car (and new) market had gone insane since Covid started. so a vehicle with 20k damage may have been totalled and capped at 15k, but now it’s value is 25k so they have to pay out and pay out an additional 5k. So they have to raise premiums to make up for it. id imagine it affects any vehicle that saw its value grow since covid in the used market (which I imagine is most vehicles…)

Having done no research - I wonder if the price of vehicles going up is a big driver. Changes the value of being totaled and raises the caps they’d pay on things. side note - great time to buy a truck. Finally pulled the trigger on mine last week. Still managed to get great value on my trade in too.

I can’t think of a more perfect opportunity to charge parents for the first time. I can’t imagine any reasonable person has a problem with the fact that they largely contributed to the situation.

come on. his lawyers that were involved are now dealing with disbarment and/or criminal and civil cases. his foot soldiers (if you will) are being punished pretty adequately. I get you don’t have the result you want but this constant moaning about how nothing is being done isn’t correct. even for trumps trials, the financial cost and the drag it creates on his campaign (and because the RNC is funding it 😂, down ballot campaigns are also potentially affected as there’s less money/time/resources for them) is real.

I think he’s just trying to take the sting out of onslaught of ads that are about to hit us as dumb as I think he is, he consistently does a good job getting out in front of issues (in the sense it tends to work, not that he’s doing anything respectable)

I’ll never understand how people decide to invest 30-40 minutes watching him talk

I don’t know enough to know without invest more time than I care to, but i wonder if there’s money to be made taking a long position so you can collect on someone wanting it to short it (even with the loss on the long position)

I actually don’t know anything about California republicans and what they’re about someone who does might know if maybe it would be counter productive to make their votes vote more in the presidential election 😂

I don’t know that being a republican in California balances out the issue I’ve highlighted but it is the best argument anyone can make. (In my opinion) I’ve said multiple times I’ve made an attempt to understand your alls arguments and get why you’ve taken the stance you have. this isn’t a new argument. You’ve made it yourself. It’s no different than the Wyoming proportionality in the EC. I have no problem admitting this is a good argument but big picture not thinking it’s enough to agree with abolishing the EC system.

this can be addrrssed by allocating partials by district. Maine and Nebraska do this. but you’re right that absolutely is the best argument. In fact, earlier I said a problem with the national vote is a place like CA controls the outcome but by suppressing those votes from the EC system they’re already having an outsized impact on the result 😂 imagine if those people simply lived in another state that was either a swing state or close to it, the whole map changes.

To me this is a problem caused by the fact that we pick ****ty leaders. Not how we pick them. it doesn’t matter whether an election uses popular vote or some system that breaks people into groups and weights them. The results seem bad to pretty ****ty, consistently. For instance scotus judges are supposed to be confirmed the fact it’s a rubber stamp for either party in power at this point, making it the president that essentially single handily pick scotus, is not going to be fixed by changing the method with which we select ****ty people.

On this point - I don’t have sympathy for people that come up with an excuse to not vote. It’s your civic duty and it’s the one thing you can do to have a voice and if you choose to make excuses then I have zero interest in adjusting a single thing to cater to you. Could you imagine the mess that would be 😂

I don’t think the right answer is for either group to have outsized power. my issue is that popular vote swings the pendulum too far in the other direction the concern the EC is out of balance is totally legit and should be solved. part of the problem is people see moral righteousness in their political ideology. It’s not hard to think how people in rural areas want and need things that are different. But if you convince yourself that their wants and needs are simply rooted in hatred and ignorance it allows you to write those differences off as unimportant - or even think it’s good to adjust the system so they lose any ability to have a voice in a presidential election. (This problem exists in both directions, and in a variety of ways, just illustrating one example) this would be less of an issue if the federal government (and the executive specifically) haven’t been sucking up power over the decades. If states had more control over themselves, I’d be less against the idea. I think part of the problem is some people have attached themselves to the idea that the only way to “fairly” represent people is a popular vote. I totally get why if you think that, the rest of this will never make sense. But if you’re limited to that mentality then it is what it is; no one can fix that for you (general you, you’ve explained you’re trying to be open minded.) The reality is that it’s not the only way. I’m not aware of another country in the world that is a democracy, that is this large, that has this level of diversity throughout it. Comparing us to a smaller, closer to monolithic European country seems to miss some pretty important distinctions. I’m not sure any country in the world has to somehow navigate such challenges and maintain a democracy the way we do. (I’m aware other countries have rural and city people, hopefully what I said makes sense but I suck at communicating sometimes) 🤷‍♂️ Finally - one party seemed invested in making the government as dysfunctional as possible. I absolutely understand the desire to remove voting power from the people that support them, but I don’t think it’s the right way to solve that problem either.

There’s definitely an argument that the binding of EC votes is a problem and it was not intended to be that way. and last I checked no, not every state is that way.

Because the # of people concentrated in cities and the surrounding suburbs significantly outnumber everyone else. so you have one set of lifestyle and needs outweigh the other. the EC balances that back out so one lifestyle and set of needs isn’t the only one that wins all the time. (again - I think it needs to be adjusted to be more fair and has become out of whack. That’s different than saying it needs to be tossed for popular vote) if you’re going to be that disingenuous then have at it yeah I don’t know why I bothered. I knew better and did it anyways (story of my life) cause @bearrockand @Renegade7 are polite and reasonable and I was trying to be respectful instead of being like “lol figure it out yourself we already discussed it earlier in the thread” I’ll again point out that I think I’ve made an effort to understand their gripes, and explain what I think they’re missing, and I’ve yet to see where any of them have attempted to do the same. it’s the same talking points over and over and I’d get further trying to explain it a rock

I think there’s enough posts on this board between the two of us to suggest we want the same thing and share the same fears. We see different ways of getting there, and see different problems with each others opinions on it. But I think we want the same thing - a functioning government that does its best to do the best for the people, as a whole and within the constraints of reality. Few quick points: - I think it’s a logical flaw to take the last 8 years and use it as a reason to totally revamp a system in place for hundreds of years. - dems/liberals/progressives have a pretty solid history of being shortsighted in changing rules only to later have those changes used by republicans to do 10x the damage whatever benefit was originally sought - I’m not convinced the dems are some altruistic party, and hence I’m not convinced adjusting the system such that they win hands down with the presidency every time for the foreseeable future is a good idea. I don’t think the dems are immune to some version of what has happened to the republicans. In some ways you can see how it’s already happened. People love to generalize and use others actions to excuse their own. There’s legitimately many posters here that think that by virtue of identifying as a republican they are evil - they’ve literally said as much. - generally I think short cuts are a bad idea.