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I actually really enjoy J.T.'s film breakdown and analyses, but he kinda sucks at predictions. Here were some gems of his past lists 2020: 1. Tua 2. Jake Fromm 3. Jordan Love 4. Nate Stanley 5. Anthony Gordon 6. Jalen Hurts 7. Justin Herbert 2021: 1. Justin Fields 2. Trevor Lawrence 3. Trey Lance 4. Zach Wilson 5. Kellen Mond 6. Mac Jones
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Er, wait. So he's saying KK should take the guy he may have to spend years developing into a level 2 middle of the field passer because he can run vs. the guy who can also run and who has already shown the ability to make all of those throws in just two years starting of college? How does that make any sense?
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IMO it's more about the leadership style and what Washington is looking for. It's pretty well established that Daniels is an introvert, kinda shy, and more of a "lead by example" guy and that Maye is much more extroverted and more of a vocal leader. From what we've seen so far from GMAP and DQ, then seem to tend to prefer the latter sort of leader. The whole "Maye needs to sit" thing is so overblown. Rookies with worse footwork and more inconsistent accuracy have started and been fine. As far as Allen, yes Maye does remind me of Allen a bit more than Herbert because Maye, like Allen, is super aggressive and will push the ball down the field at the drop of a hat. But Maye is also less flawed than Allen coming out. Allen had even worse footwork and accuracy issues (otherwise he would have easily been a top 3 pick if not 1st overall). So I'd say he's a bit more of a refined Allen, but without quite the ludicrous physical gifts of Allen. Still very gifted, but not not on his level (Allen probably has the single strongest arm in the NFL and is also at least 10 lbs heavier and a little taller than Maye).
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We don't know who he's talking to. The only thing we know is that pretty much all teams are keeping their traps shut for the most part. I'm not saying he's lying or talking to completely unreliable people, but usually the only people talking to reporters about QBs at this point in the process are either scouts for teams who aren't actually looking for a QB in the draft or who probably won't be in a place to pick one of the top ones. That or if it IS a scout or FO person for a team in a spot to land one of the top QBs, it's likely not a top level scout or decision maker.
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We also have no clue who these "coaches and scouts" are. They could be assistant to the assistant qualify assurance coach or a the assistant to an assistant scout. Also, remember that this is lying season, so there's probably plenty of BS flying for whatever reason. I also don't discount groupthink where x number of "scouts" say "oh, this guy is better" and then others just sort of get on board the same train. Not saying Daniels isn't a good prospect, but putting a ton of stock in anonymous quotes from supposed coaches and scouts isn't that great of an idea IMO right in the middle of draft season. There's also pretty much always a guy like Maye who scouts and coaches raved about for some time but now suddenly are nitpicking every single thing about him. It happened with Herbert too, for example. I think the best and most straightforward take I heard on Maye in a scouting report was "stop overthinking it". As in "the dude checks all the boxes for elite traits to be an top tier QB prospect. nitpicking the flaws to death is how we completely whiffed on Josh Allen and Justin Herbert"
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Ok, so 3 unnamed scouts said they believe he processes fast. Though this one I found very dubious: "He knows when to take off and when not to". Uh how often he pulls his eyes down as soon as he feels pressure to me says otherwise. This one I also found a bit interesting: “You never saw him frenetic or frantic. He made good decisions. … You can see his eyes going through the progressions, going where they are supposed to go.” To me he at they very least sometimes actually did look frantic, especially when he had time + a pocket but his first reads weren't open. He would get incredibly bouncy in his feet and you could see his head moving at almost light speed back and forth. I'm sure some would say "that just means he's super duper fast at processing" but IIRC when @Voice_of_Reasondid his game breakdown of Daniels you could see him just pass over open guys when doing this. Now, I certainly don't think he's a bad processor, I just think it's a bit much to talk about him being elite at it given the above factors. YPA also includes YAC. Even in 2023 with a worse OC and supporting cast, Maye still had a higher air yards per attempt than Daniels. He also has the most big time throws over the past two seasons of any QB in some time. Daniels certainly did throw it deep, but he also had two absolute YAC monsters in Nabers and Thomas and they showcased that plenty.
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I think the hit thing is more about how a guy's body naturally reacts to hits. Most guys naturally react by getting compact and coiling muscles. Guys like RG3 and Daniels seem to do the opposite. Their bodies go more limp and splay out instead, and as a result they tend to look like ragdolls when they take a hard hit. That's how it was with the Ngata hit on RG3 and you saw his leg flop around during the it and hyperextend. Unfortunately that's probably not something that can really be "trained", it's just a neuromuscular response.
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And Maye is considered just as smart, highly regarded, high level processor, non-diva, and dedicated. He's also younger and has better physical tools besides straight line speed. Oh, and he also doesn't have a helicopter mom or an agent that publicly goes on Twitter and basically trash talks the team with the #2 overall pick who could potentially draft his client.
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Even if you don't like the way the Commanders are going about it, complaining about it on social media is very stupid. That's why I'm wondering if either 1) Daniels really doesn't want to go to the Commanders, 2) @KDawgis right and he was told he wasn't going to be the pick so this is saving face, or 3) Jayden's agent truly just just a few nuggets short of a happy meal.