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My issue with Okafor is that he is too redundant with Nene, both are excellent defensive bigs but with okafor being a better rebounder but being considerably offensively (although, he isn't bad). The thing is they don't compliment one another as well as they ought to. They both should be living in the post. Whenever Nene/Okafor end up taking an elbow or FT line jumper we're not maximizing their abilities. Ideally Okafor should be a back up at around 6-7 mil....but I'd rather just like draft Patric Young this year in the 2nd round and hopefully let Okafor teach him the next season. Nene really should be moved to 5 going forward, asking him to guard the new stretch 4s is a bit much and he's about as strong as most centers in this league. Millsap would pair well next to Nene I think, I don't know how to make it happen though.

Wall, Webster (first half) and Okafor were like the only wizards player to show up for this game. Nene showed up late. A SG and stretch 4 would go a loooooong way for this team. Good thing Beal is one less thing to worry about. We need a bench pretty desperately though.

Teams like CHA might be willing to trade back in this draft. Pick swap+Seraphin/somebody would absolutely be worth if they were to offer us a chance at Noel/Porter. Maybe even the wolves would, as I think we'll probably supplant them eventually as well.

His coming back mostly fixed depth on the roster, he's an average PG at this point. He just makes the 1st/2nd units less stable. I'd attribute most of our victories to the increased production from Beal, Okafor and the unusually good play outta Ariza and Webster. Wall does have some imprints on our victories, but he's probably the 3rd or 4th best player on the roster. Nene and Beal are better then him, and Okafor is arguably better as well. Wall can fix that, but he needs to start busting his ass. He should take a page out of JR Smiths book (never thought those words would ever be said) and quit the night life and earn that max money. He needs to put in A LOT of work on the offensive facets of his game. ---------- Post added February-28th-2013 at 02:41 PM ---------- I'm honestly hoping Porter's combine scorers come in a little lower than I think they will, he won't last past the 4th pick at the rate he's going.

truthfully the only thing I care about is what we get from them on the court. And yes other people did suck tonight, but other people aren't anointed franchise players like Wall. I haven't really begun the question Wall in the Wizards future until now. He says the right things, supposedly he does the right things, but the return product we're getting doesn't seem worth it. He can turn it around, lots of games left, but the franchise ought to consider other options if this keeps up. I'm a Wizards fan before I'm Wall fan. I want him to do well, but it seems less and less likely it'll occur. He's far too inconsistent.

He does too may stupid things when one facet of his game isn't working. They need to stop babying him, it's his 3rd season in the league, he shouldn't be making as many cerebral mistakes as he does. Everyone else on the team gets playing time by earning it, he certainly isn't earning a starting role as of late...even with how bad Price is as a starter. Its one thing to make an example of scrubs like Jordan Crawford, but the "stars" on the team need to be brought down to earth as well.

If we had Porter for that last possession, we woulda won. The coaching staff oughta bench Wall. He needs to earn his starting role. We need to stop coddling him.

Which is why if we have a shot at Porter we'll probably immediately take him. He can do exactly what we need from the SF position while adding some playmaking. I kind of wish we did swap picks with another team before the trade deadline. I see this team finishing with 30-32 wins. Probably enough to knock us out of getting porter, especially considering his value is actually increasing.

I'd honestly sign Nate Robinson next season, he's been solid for he Bulls. He has his "WTF" moments but he's been pretty good, and with Kirk Hinrich I assume returning+teague and Rose coming back he might be able to get the playing time he wants here. If Ariza continues his steady play he may do us a favor and opt out.

There are a lot of things are going to factor into next year. If we somehow manage 30 wins then we should be noticed as a better FA landing spot. DC itself is becoming a better sports town as of late so it isn't like we're a small market. What I think could be instrumental is how Nene's health is next season. Once okafor is either delt, or allowed to expire, if Nene is healthy...I think he could fill the void at Center for a year or two. A future frontcourt of Porter Milsap Nene would be ideal IMO. The guy clearly has trouble with stretch 4s. A lot will be predicated on his health going into next season, if he's fine...just move him to center. I do like Okafor though, its nice to have a competent center on the team. Then we just gotta hope either one of Booker/Vesely/Singleton/Seraphin becomes worth a damn. Booker is rounding back into form, but he just needs to get healthy.

I don't think his lateral quickness is bad, it seems fairly standard. There are valid gripes about him as a leaper I suppose. Like Zeller, the combine could potentially move him 2-3 spots based on his results.

If we're picking number 1, I'd easily draft Noel, without a doubt, his upside is ridiculous. However, if we get like...the 2nd pick, i'd trade back a little, and draft porter immediately. Porter between 5-10 is better value then anyone between 2-4 IMO. He looks NBA ready, and has a tremendous feel for the game, just like Beal. I think he could be a cross of Deng and and like....Batum...with a floor of Shane Battier.

He did, in the first half if I recall correctly, he didn't get very high up but then again he was just trying to get the bucket it seemed, nothing highlight worthy. I'd definitely welcome him onto the team. If he measures our to have better athletic scores then people think though...he may go a little higher...and if we keep winning games...ah **** we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

well the only hope the wizards have is that his obesity gets the best of him, which is terrible cause I don't think Ted is THAT bad a person, but proving to be a rather incompetent owner. We're ****ed, for a long time coming.

we should all mass spam his blog with a link to that fire ernie blog article. ---------- Post added February-22nd-2013 at 02:11 PM ---------- Vinny drafted guys who could have performed, I'd say he failed in fostering institutional control that would have maximized the players' abilities (hiring/firing coaches etc..). EG sucks phallical objects in every way possible.

Financial flexibility? Not like they're gonna pull miracle sign someone worth a damn in the offseason. Seriously, Ernie needs to contract ebola.

^The prolly coulda still got some crap on 1-2 year deals that would allow them to tank next year. In no way is the magnitude of both moves or lack of moves the same, but the incompetency involved seems equivalent...which is surprising cause Ferry ain't a bad GM.

This almost as bad as ATL not trading Josh, they gonna lose him for absolutely nothing.

Ernie deserves ebola, that is all.

I'd rather avoid studying today so I'll play as well, I'm sure we're both equally stubborn. Regarding size, it can only help in the NBA, but if your game is predicated on a style it doesn't hurt to be slightly oversized or undersized for a position. Millsap is a 6'8 PF, with decent standing reach, but nothing spectacular, but his game is nice. He's fluid, efficient and is able to be a factor. I don't think Josh Smith uses his size well. If you say he is a SF, he should be living in the post all day, just posting up smaller SFs, but he doesn't. He wastes his natural ability. Regarding Vesely, while he a bust for where he was drafted, he still has time to become a "role player" in the NBA. If Josh Smith was Vesely's ceiling, i'm not sure I would have drafted him, AK-47, sure. TY, and if you took any offense to my comment about your tattoo, my bad (not a fan of em, but to each their own, prolly my pompous side speaking). I've sat "pretty close" a couple times but honestly, the only opportunity it provides is players off the ball or that are leaking out. With HD experiences I do think live sporting venues do lose some of their utility (for football probably more). I believe I've already described how Batum is more efficient, the same applies with Paul George regarding TS, eFG, Ortg, 3 pt % and doing it all on lower usage. Both are also younger, and could conceivably get better. The problem with equating him to LBJ as an example of someone who got better...is that LBJ is HOF level...He had/has desire to be GOAT. You can't say that about Smith, I'm sure he tries, but...LBJ, Kidd, these are some of the true greats. Smith doesn't have that glow about him. If he changes, kudos to him...I'm not sure I want to take that bet though. I'd rather be cautious with the Wiz given how asinine some of our moves have been in the past. Regarding his shooting, I think he'll come back down to like 32-33...which is still an improvement for him...but nothing to really write home about. He takes 4 FTs a game, assuming he made one more I don't think he'd break 52% TS. I believe a player his age should have a very high TS (like 55+) to warrant the money he wants. Clearly the FO of every team he's been on since that season have missed that memo lol. He is a good rebounder for 4, but not elite. He gets assists...but turns it over quite a bit too. His offensive game just need to be curtailed. He's a 6'9 Jordan Crawford who knows how to play D...not a bad player...but a max player? Even if the market will pay him that doesn't logically justify him making that money. http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anthoca01.html every year but this year has been listed as SF. I'm sure he plays small ball when it matters, but I tend to think he spends more his time at the 3 (melo that is). I'd much rather trade for Millsap. Him and Nene would provide good floor spacing.

apparently MIL is a front runner for him...which is a massive relief. With any lucky he could go to the bucks, completely **** that team up and leave the 8th spot open for like a 37 win team. That would be our most hopeful scenario in any Josh Smith trade.

Yah cause then guys like Haddidi should be so awesome. You can be tall as hell, but if you can't put the ball effectively in the basket what good are you to the team? McGee sure as hell isn't warranting his contract thus far, nor is hibbert. I'll give you he is a good defender, but I'm not sure his offensive inefficiencies can be masked by his D. If he played under control and ONLY attacked the basket, sure...but he doesn't. First of all, no I do not flip burgers. 2nd of all, there is no difference, you get a more holistic picture of the court, but that also depends on the viewing angle from the TV. Again this isn't a way to objectively judge a player. Having a wizards logo tatted onto you doesn't make you an expert on basketball, just makes you look weird. To play SF in today's current NBA you need to be able to shoot. At least to be an elite one. He has the size of a big SF but he doesn't have the offensive skill. He's about as athletic as a SF from the outside, but he's just getting older. If he could shoot .35% from beyond the 3 than he should be out there most the time, but this is the only year he's been doing that, and it also is his contract year...kind of skeptical to me. MKG is 19, he actually can improve his shot, he's in that stage of his career, Josh Smith is 27, he is what he is. Some basketball knowledge you're exuding. If there was a trend upwards, you may have a point, but look at his FT % the last three years. It has gone steadily down. He use to be 72%, but the last two years have been bad. Why should I believe he'll revert back? Oh and what good is it for haywood to shoot 70%+ one year and then go back ****ty shooting? Seems more like an aberration in his FT shooting career arc to me than a trend. Still not sold that he can be full time SF, so 8 rebounds from him doesn't do much for me. He isn't putting up bad PER stats as far as PFs go....but If I'm going to throw 8 figures to anyone, I'd rather bring in Paul Milsap. He's efficient and a solid player. So you want your "elite" player to have an "average" TS%? You want your elite player to have below average efficiency and be ok with it? How does that not seem like a bad way of justifying that? He'll be slightly better than average if he can fix his FT %. Max money players should be a bit better than average with regards to TS. Quickly, LBJ and Melo are 3s that CAN play 4. They've always been traditionally been 3s, and LBJ has always excelled mostly as a point forward than a power forward. I've always thought in Melo's case, he's most useful when there is a stretch 4 next to him, to suck a big defender out (If Amare can actually become that, they might actually present an issue for Miami). Pierce is better right now, but it'll change very soon I imagine. Batum has a higher career 3 point percentage, is asked to play heavy minutes on a POR team that has no depth, has a better assist to TO ratio, WAYYYY better TS, Considerably better eFG%, better oRTG% and he has all these qualities on less usage then Smith, and he's 24. He could conceivably get better in the coming 2-3 years. Gay and Smith are inefficient, your subjective "analysis" doesn't change the facts. Try again.

In this case size doesn't matter, especially when you're trying to equate Josh Smith into being a "good SF". He's very unskilled from the perimeter. Career wise, he isn't a guy you want anywhere but the paint, nor is he fast enough to blow by truly elite SFs (not anymore at least). You can say my reading comprehension sucks or w/e, but the fact is your argument wreaks of incompetence. Stop making bull**** comparisons. I don't give a **** whether or not you believe don't try to insinuate that I'm liar and then brush it off as if its point of actual discussion. I'd venture to say almost everyone on this board who lives in the DMV area has attempted or gone to a game, as I have, and you don't see anything different than you do on TV. I hardly doubt anyone goes to a game and watches one player off the ball the whole ****ing game. Don't bring your GF into this, I don't want to bash anyone who is undeserving. Quit talking out of your ass and actually back up some of your assertions regarding players other than simply saying "player X is good because of some subjectively arbitrary quality Y that I observed." Gimme a ****ing break. Ummm he is absolutely a tweener forward. 6'9 with a standing reach similar to B. Griffin's if I'm not mistaken. He's better as stretch 4 who can't shoot (which is odd in itself). His athleticism isn't good enough to cover up the lack of shooting skill he has from outside (although career year this year for him, but also contract year, not too surprised). Not to mention he's going to be 28 in '13-14 season (which I imagine would be the first season we'd see dividends from acquiring this terrible 6'9 walking mediocre treadmill of a player). He's 27, his FT shooting isn't going to get much better. Remember, he's shooting like close to 50% this season. If he gets up to 60% again it isn't like we've rid ourselves of his liability. I'm sure he has coaches working with him on this, so it isn't something you can bank on. He doesn't dominate the boards, he's got a 1.3:1 Assist to TO ratio, while at least not below 1, isn't exactly dominate. 17.5 points a game on bad TS on high usage isn't a good scorer. He's a scorer, but more like corey magette, who, I'm sure...nobody wants. elite? Well, LBJ, Durant, Melo are all clearly in the top 3. Paul George would be next, as he's played tremendous ball in the last 35 games, not to mention his all NBA caliber defense. I'd say Pierce and Batum come next, Pierce is clearly on a downward trejectory though, but we're just talkin this season. Batum plays excellent D and does a lot considering POR has no bench, not to mention he's been fighting through injuries this season. The only thing "elite" about Rudy Gay is that he's hyper athletic. The problem is his shot selection and efficiency, which is the same regarding Smith. We have pieces, but putting smith on this team is like trying to fit a Square into space where a circle goes. He'd better suited on CLE with Kyrie being a threat from 3 point land. Smith isn't going to get much better as a player, so thinking his game is going to expand seems like foolish thinking. Most guys are what they are by his age. Oh and regarding Cousins, he is a headcase, like Smith, but at least Cousins has monstrous upside. You can't say that about Smith, he's in his physical prime, but that doesn't mean his game is about to morph.

Josh Smith is a VERY poor man's LBJ. To even mention him in some sort of analogous fashion proves the incompetence of your argument. I've watched 90% of the wizards games since Jordan was on the team, I watch most any ESPN/NBA TV/TNT and playoff game when I get a chance. I've seen a sufficiently large sample size of the games themselves. You aren't seeing anything I'm not seeing. Your eyes are more than likely not better than mine. You've coached? Who gives a damn if you've coached if you think Rudy Gay and Josh Smith are efficient players. That just means you are terrible at interpreting stats within their context. Your arguments are entirely subjective. Saying Player X is "good" doesn't make him good. Especially when the futility of ATL and the stats say otherwise Josh Smith is a tweener, Rudy Gay is a hyper athletic 3 who could never become efficient. Slashing and getting to the paint mean **** when you can't convert. And FTs absolutely do matter, if he can't convert, he's a liability offensively, YOU should know this, YOU have coached. He's a career 66% FT shooter, and actually gotten WORSE over the past two years. I'll continue to look at the numbers AND watch the games. You're trying to make sense out of the senseless. Josh Smith and Rudy Gay are not efficient players. Do they have some utility? Absolutely, but not at their asking price. If he could be had for like...7-8 mil a year, then yes, he is worth it...but lord knows there is some stupid GM that'll give him what he wants. And then I remember who runs the show here in DC. ---------- Post added February-15th-2013 at 05:09 PM ---------- Shabazz is still the better prospect IMO, but I could see a rationale in taking Porter. It also depends on value. Shabazz isn't playing like a number 1 overall pick (not to say he's playing bad). Porter is hitting his stride though. I think Porter at like...8 is better value then Shabazz at 2. Say for instance we land the number 2 pick, and we could ascertain the number 7/11 (depending on how PHX ends up) by trading back while giving up a player (say seraphin). Who would you rather have: Shabazz+Seraphin or Porter+Austin (beginning to like his game as of late) Although it might be for moot if we go in the direction of Noel.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/smithjo03.html He's played the 4 position for the last 6 years. He CAN play the 3, but would you want him to? He's a career .288% shooter from 3 point land, that is BAD. Nene is better than Thompson right now, that is obvious, but look at thompson's stat line: Per 36: 13-10-1.5-1-1, on 53% TS and on 17% usage. The best part about that is his increase from last year. The kid has really worked on his game and is going to get better. Nene's stat line is better, but if you asked me, would I rather have thompson on his salary, or Nene...I'd go with Thompson, his production isn't bad enough to warrant him a cast off or something. Oh and in Jan/Feb he's averaging like 15-10. Which is essentially Nene. No he's an undersized stretch 4 who can't shoot but can play 3 if you want to be a treadmill team. 2nd best player on a contender? Are you insane? He's like a defensive version of Gallinari, not a bad guy to have on your team so long as you limit him to being the 3rd/4th option. Right now, I'd say Teague is a better PG than Wall, slightly, at least offensively, but Wall can surpass him. Smith's problem is that he doesn't listen well, he should be playing in the paint at all times, when he gets baited into taking jumpshots is when he fails miserably. If he were a bit more....competent than I could see him amending his ways. But alas, I can't. I don't want to ship off Nene. Nene is slightly overpaid but Smith at like 13 mil is overpaid as well. You can't have two quasi-PFs who are overpaid on your roster. At least Nene brings stability to the roster and competent team play. The only reason to make the trade is you think Nene can't stay healthy (Which is a valid concern, but he's held up well so far, and it is my hope we get two more solid seasons out of him). No, he's not a SF no matter how many times you say he is. ATL plays Horford at the 5 and Josh at the 4. He gets spot minutes at the 3 but for the most part he is a 4. He also has a TS of 49.%% this year, which is below average (how's that for efficiency?). His usage rate is at nearly 27% which is pretty ****ing high. His Ortg is also 96 which is bad as well. He's a 6'9, athletic Jordan Crawford. His game isn't conducive to building a contender...especially at the price he wants. People who like Josh Smith prolly like Rudy Gay as well, they get in love with the highlight reel stats but don't take a look at what the numbers say.