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He is a way more talented then Beal ever will be. Even in college he was basically the same guy but put up more points because he was the #1 option. If you look at it realistically if your expecting a #1 scoring option out of this draft your gonna be disappointed. I think Barnes is one of the few who could be a 20ppg scorer but still not a number 1 option. Harden will average 20ppg easily if he is the #1 option.

Yes after next season he is restricted. You control his rights the next 2 years and you can pay him more then anybody else if you wanted.

Harden is still under a teams control for 2 years. After next season he is restricted. James Harden Cole Aldrich #28 for Blatche #3 #32 We would be a very dangerous team especially if we woulda hired a real detailed oriented defensive coach.

I was told top 5 ranking were Davis Trob MKG Barnes Beal We are clearly drating for need instead of Bpa. Take it with a grain of salt its 2nd hand info.

I dont want Beal either not in the top 3. Much prefer Barnes,Mkg or even Drummond. My source is'nt a scout or front office exc but hangs out and eats lunch with them almost daily.

Was just told the pick is Beal barring trades. If he is gone lookout for one of the trades I mentioned involving Blatche.

As long as we can get John Jenkins or even Doron Lamb with our 2nd pick i'll be estactic. I would'nt be shocked at all to see Jenkins become the best 2 guard from this draft. Even if we draft Beal i'd double up. Let Crawford be a combo guard he is better with the ball in hand anyway.

Barnes can guard the 2 or 3 much like Ariza can. Barnes is a very underrated defender at this point. I think Ariza will guard the tougher assignment. On offense its a nice fit and keeps the ball where it belongs in Walls hands letting him create. Harrison will have a huge advantage on 2 guards size wise and has a good postup game. He would be run off screens constantly and be able to shoot over most 2 guards with ease. We dont need ball pounders anyway. Thats a very big lineup even off the bench.

Barnes is rated higher on there board but they know Beal fills a need that was the 2nd hand info I got. Doubtful they amensty Blatche.

Its actually Lowery,14,16 for Blatche,3. Ive heard 3,Blatche for 6, Matthews. Blatche+3 for Garcia+5. I was told all have been discussed last week. This is the type of deal that is gonna happen we will not amensty blatche.

I was told we are split on Beal and Barnes. They have Barnes ranked higher but Beal fills the biggest hole. And that its not a forgone conclusion that either will be the pick though. I told my buddy well damn that tells me alot. Not sure there smokescreening or not but I think they want Barnes pretty bad.

Barnes/ or MKG and Lamb at #11 i'd do backflips. I'd double up on wings preferably that can score or shoot. It looks like maybe Cleveland is smoke screening about moving to #2 for Beal. I think they really want Kyries buddy Barnes. Its been noted they had Barnes ranked as the #2 overall prospect last year as well. If we traded with Portland it will go 1-Davis 2-TRob 3-Drummond 4- Barnes 5- MKG 6- Beal Sactown will go MKG over Beal because of Tyreke. If i'm wrong and Cleveland really wants Beal and moves to #2 then it will go. 1-Davis 2-Beal CLEV 3-Drummond 4- TRob CHAR 5- MKG/BARNES 6- MKG/BARNES I think its a lock at #6 we'd end up with one of Barnes, Beal or MKG.

I read this morning that Rivers and MKG are coming back in for 2nd workouts. Maybe there thinking #6 and #11 I dunno but someone in the top 6 will be right there either Beal,Barnes,TRob,Drummond or MKG. Thats the move i'd make if its on the table #3+#32 it would probably take for #6+#11 but i'd do it without hesitation. Your are locked into getting a top 6 player and another nice piece at #11.

I'm alot like Bilas on Beal listening to him last night on the NBA channel draft special. I have Lamb ranked #1 like he does and Beal #2 but I'm not as down on him as he is, he had him ranked #4. I just did'nt see alot of NBA type scoring out of Beal. Beal scored on alot of spotup wide open jumpers. You very rarely saw him beat someone 1 on 1. I think he is getting overrated bigtime right now but he looks likely to be our pick. Compared with Lamb. Lamb faced double teams and shot a ton of 3's off the dribble. Lots of ISO's and beating people off the dribble, lots of screens. His ability to setup defenders off of screens and dribble is the best in this draft by a mile. He also has a absolutely lightening quick crossover. The defenses were designed to stop him unlike Beal. Barnes and Lambs game especially offensively is well suited to NBA play. And I absolutely love MKG I have all year but with the cast of misfits dumbfeld has put together its just a horrible fit. If we could swing a trade for a pure shooter maybe Okafor for Ben Gordon i'd be on board. If we trade for #6 and #11 and ended up with Barnes and Lamb lookout.

Its not the same system because he learned under Dean you just assume it was. Roy did run alot of the same sets with Pierce though. I believe even one of the draft sites wrote about Roys system being Pg and Bigman dominant. People can knock Barnes all they want but this thread will be on here and hopefully we bump it up for next year. ---------- Post added June-22nd-2012 at 11:00 PM ---------- Getting ready for Caps draft right now hopefully we get a nasty center but this draft is defense heavy.

Can't put all that on Barnes although he did struggle. And nobody ever mentions that Roy Williams system is'nt designed for a guy like Harrison to really get off. In the NBA he will have a more wide open, heavily spaced league that fits his strenghts much better. I think that to many people scream to draft certain guys based on college play and there not projecting them into the next level or looking at the overall big picture coaching,systems,teammates etc. UNC had a great chance to win it all this year. Marshall going down killed them and any chance they had especially with his primary backup out as well, that little dude who took his spot was just awful. The NBA is a pick&roll heavy league with lots of isolations. Barnes has proven that he is by far the best midrange shooter in this draft. He has also scored in isolations a ton his 2 dribble pullup and step back jumpers are NBA caliber. He has proven he can shoot off screens much more then Beal did this year. He is a good long defender with a NBA offensive game.

I wanted Machado bad with #46 but its gone now. Hoping for John Jenkins or Doron Lamb to fall into our lap at #32. Barnes according to reports had a great workout today for the bobcats. Reporters said he made over 80% of his jumpers and dunked the ball like 20 times in a minute or something crazy like that in drill work. There coach was talking him up afterwards.

Ariza played the 2 alot last year for the hornets. He can defend both spots.

Ernie just said they won't count on the draft pick this season, he will only be 19 maybe 20. If you read into that Beal turns 19 on draft night. Barnes just turned 20 like 2 weeks ago. TRob is 21 and MKG and Drummond both are 18 until the fall. I was told this morning they are split on Barnes and Beal. They like Harrison better but Beal fills a huge hole its gonna come down to need vs BPA on there board. And despite Teddy saying they will keep the pick I was told they've talked to the kings,blazers and warriors about trading back.

There both very good defenders. Okafor and Nene is a formidable frontcourt if both are healthy. The problem is it makes us a late lottery type of team without capspace or a high draft pick. Its the exact opposite of the supposed plan. Looking at the roster its very unbalanced C- Nene- Seraphin PF- Okafor- Booker- Vesely SF- Ariza-Singleton-Vesely OG- Crawford PG-Wall- Mack Thats 10 under contract. This move is gonna hurt the development of our young front court players.

BINGO, just good enough to compete for the #8 seed and miss out on top 5 impact players in the draft. This team still needs to find that legit #1 scorer/shooter and really needs to hit big on this pick. The pick has to be Barnes or Beal. I personally think Barnes offensive game is ready made for NBA basketball but were loaded at the 3. I'd be shocked if the pick was'nt 1 of those 2 unless another trade is made.

Okafor can still play and Ariza defends well but this is horrible without #10

He has' nt played well at all but its a few games on the biggest stage. Thats not what I was commenting on anyway. You implied he was overrated. We all can see he had a few bad games. I'd take him in his 3rd year over anybody in this draft but Davis. He has played in the Nba almost as a duplicate of how he played in college almost exact %' s etc.

Your nuts on this one Steve no offense. Even shooting 2-10 last night he still grabbed 10 boards. He has missed alot of wide open jumpers the last two games he will normally drain. If we get a player remotely close to being as good as Harden we will be in great shape.

Absolutely he is a very good player damn sure better then Beal, Barnes or Mkg will ever be. He is getting the same shots he did all year just not hitting them. The heat have nothing to do with it game 1 he was constantly do whatever he wanted.