ES Coverage

  • entries
    274
  • comments
    377
  • views
    79,518

Contributors to this blog

About this blog

Entries in this blog

JimmiJo

ES Coverage: Lions vs. Redskins

 

11/24/19

 

VICTORY!!!

Redskins 19 - 16 Lions 

 

So I kept setting off the metal detector coming in. Must have been my steely gaze and iron-will.

 

Here is my pre-game write-up: Just win the f****ng game.

 

Thanks.

 

Follow along in-game on Twitter @Skinscast.

Speaking of which, I hope you guys are listening to the OFFICIAL podcast of Extremeskins over at Redskins.com; Skinscast.

Stand by...

Half
 

So the Redskins are rightfully leading at the half 13-6 over the Detroit Lions.

 

I say rightfully because Washington has made more meaningful plays; Steven Sims jr’s 91-yard kickoff return, a forced fumble and recovery, an interception, and a couple of nice throws by Dwayne Haskins to put the Redskins in scoring position.

 

But in-between was some errant passes, one of which would have hit a wide-open Terry McLaurin running free into the end zone.

 

If Washington loses, it will be because of missed opportunities, such as the easy three-yard out late in the second half Haskins to Trey Quinn that would converted the 3rd down, extended the drive and killed the half. But instead, Detroit got the ball back and were able to drive down for a 49-yard field goal to bring the score within 7.

 

By the way, the Lions get the ball to the start the 2nd half. All they need is a nice drive and a couple plays for me to be talking about a tied game.

 

Washington needs to reassert themselves. As for Haskins, this is what we get with a rookie thrower. But the problem is not his decision making or reads, it is mechanics. This concerns me.

 

Postgame

 

Earlier today I wrote “just win” (in so many words). The Washington Redskins did just that.

 

It was not pretty. It was not always expected – certainly not after the Redskins squandered a 10-point lead to have to then play catchup. But in the end they did it, and it was damn sweet to see.

 

All credit to rookie Dwayne Haskins. That last drive showed poise and determination. He told me following the game he knew before the first snap that could and would win it.

 

‘That’s interesting,” I thought to myself. Did you know it when you overthrew a completely wide-open Terry McLaurin in the end zone…twice?

 

Or when you could not covert a 3-yard 3rd down to Trey Quinn that meant everything at the time, with the game tied and close to the 2-minute warning. The crossing pattern to Jeremy Sprinkle that saw the tight end well ahead of the defender. Even the miraculous catch Kelvin Harmon made could have ended disastrously but for the magic catch.

 

Each of these were grossly errant throws. Everyone long.

 

Head coach Bill Callahan said it was timing issues of a young quarterback. Wanting to go too fast. Or putting on too much. He did credit Haskins with placing the ball where it could not be picked. But that was only true of the long balls.

 

Haskins tends to miss high on the checkdowns. This will lead to turnovers as often as not as high-passes get tipped up when not corralled.

The quarterback gave me a different reason when I asked about his overthrows.

 

“My wrist was hurt,” he said.

 

He will learn that was a rather significant admission following a game. And though he minimized the follow-ups, telling us he hurt it in-game but that “it’s good;” the head coach and trainer will have some ‘splainin’ to do as any injury to the starting quarterback needs to be announced according to league rules.

 

Haskins day was mixed. He skippered the game-winning field goal drive. But also fumbled the ball for loss and was intercepted. On the day he went 13-of-29 for 156-yards, and the interception for a passer rating of 47.5.

 

But the game was more than Haskins. It was a defense that let down far too many times. But also one that made some big plays.

Washington’s defense intercepted Detroit’s Jeff Driskel three-times; twice by Fabian Moreau and once by Quinton Dunbar. None more important than Moreau’s grab to seal the win for Washington.

 

The defense also generated 6 sacks and 6 tackles-for-loss. Yet they allowed 364-yards of total offense by the Lions while granting them 33:30 minutes of time-of-possession (a 7-minute advantage).

 

Offensively, the struggles for Washington continued. Yes, they managed the game-winning drive, capped by a 39-yard Dustin Hopkins field goal that was the winner. But that was part of another 4-field goal day for the Redskins. Meaning another game with no offensive touchdown.

 

Darrius Guice led all backs with 32-yards rushing on 10-carries. Haskins was 2nd, tallying 28-yards on 3 scrambles, and Adrian Peterson rounded out the top 3 with 27-yards on 10 carries.

 

Terry McLaurin led all Washington receivers with 5 catches for 72-yards.

 

But no write-up of today’s victory is complete without special mention of the special teams. Teams accounted for ALL points today for Washington; a touchdown and those 4 field goals. The play of the day (and perhaps season) was Steven Sims Jr. taking a muffed catch on a kickoff and running it back 91-yards for the Redskins’ only touchdown.

 

It was a magic moment for the few who came out to see Washington win today.

 

With as rare as victories have been, I am not about to get particular.  Despite the missed chances and bad plays, when it all counted Haskins and the Redskins did enough to get the win.

 

And we will sure take that.

Destino

We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   


Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
 
My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  

1- Score a touchdown 
2- Score more than 17 points.   
3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
 

Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  

 

Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
 

The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
Paul Richardson  
Colt McCoy 
Deshazor Everett 
Chris Thompson  
Ross Pierschbacher 
Vernon Davis  
Tim Settle  
 

The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
Nate Hairston  
Darryl Roberts  
Paul Worrilow 
Matthias Farley  
CJ Mosley  
Jordan Willis  
Leo Koloamatangi 

 

1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets

If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.

 

Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
 

Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?

 

2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets

The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 

 

3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 

 

I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets

The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 

 

Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 

 

TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 

 

The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 

 

End of Game.

 

Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:

Quote

My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  

1- Score a touchdown 
2- Score more than 17 points.   
3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy. 

 

1- Success.

2- Close enough, I'm counting it

3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 

4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.

 

Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 


 

 


 
 

 

 

 

Destino

Good afternoon Redskins fans!  I have once again been invited to sit in the relative comfort of the press box and shout my thoughts into the void via this blog.  As you watch the game today and see the rain  pour relentlessly from the heavens, know that I am safe and dry.  Know also that @Spaceman Spiff is out there somewhere, cold and unappreciated, rolling around in the muck trying to capture that perfect picture.  Maybe say a little prayer for his health (or laugh, whatever, I’m not judging you).  Also, be sure not to miss the pictures he posts on this site after each game.     
 

Before we get into today's Redskins game, I want give some thanks for more positive occurrences in DC sports.  Congrats to the Washington Mystics for winning their first championship.  Congrats go out to the Washington Nationals as well for reaching the world series.  These two teams (along with the Caps) are working hard to change the sports related mood around this town, and we're all happier for it. 
 
Lets move now into less cheerful topics, namely your Washington Redskins!  Yow know things are going bad, and I mean really dang bad, when your team has gone through three quarterbacks and two coaches and your not even half way through the season.  Today's fresh hell comes in the form of a specter of the our recent past coming to smirk at our misfortune.  Im talking of course of Kyle.  Kyle's spent the week assuring everyone that he isn’t holding a grudge, while very obviously holding a grudge.  “Everything else.”  You know what I’m talking about. 
 
If all he brought to town were his hurt feelings we wouldn’t have a problem.  Sadly, he’s arrived with an undefeated football team that the NFL says we have to play this week.  This feels entirely unfair. 
 
My generic key to the game:  Run the ball and stop the run.  The team (spoiler alert: 49ers) that does this today will win.   
 
Redskins Inactives  

QB Colt McCoy  
S Deshazor Everett  
CB Josh Norman  
RB Chris THompson  
LB Josh Harvey-Clemons 
G Wes Martin  
TE Vernon Davis  

 

49ers inactives  

QB CJ Beathard 
WR Deebo Samuel  
CB Ahkello Witherspoon  
FB Kyle Juszczyk 
T Mike McGLinchey 
T Joe Staley 
DL DJ Jones 

 

1st Quarter Update
Redskins 0 – 0 49ers

 

Callahan wasn’t playing around when he said he wanted to run the ball.  That first drive was all runs, and looked great... right up until they tried to pass the ball.  Hopkins missed the relatively short fied goal, because of course he did.     

Maybe Quinn isn’t a good choice to be returning punts?  Consider it.    
 

That second Redskins drive looked more like what we’ve come to expect from this offense.  Run for negative yards, pass dropped, and an unsuccessful screen pass.  A quintessential Redskins three and out. 

Passing yards this quarter:  Redskins 3. 49ers 9.  Are you not entertained?! 

 

Half Time Update

Redskins 0 – 0 49ers 
 
How happy are you to spend your Sunday afternoon watching this game?  Consider that some people paid money, to sit in a poncho, in the rain, to watch this game. 
 
It’s now time for those half time adjustments that our beloved skins do so well.  It’s unlikely the second half mirrors the first. 

 

3rd Quarter Update 
Redskins 0 – 3 49ers  
 
Good news, this game will not end in a 0-0 tie.  Those half time adjustments have kicked in as expected and the 49ers have found a way onto the scoreboard in this messy throwback game.  The Redskins have decided to spend the second half collecting holding penalties and sadness.  Mercifully, only one quarter remains. 

 

End of Game Update 
Redskins 0 – 9 49ers 
 
Callahan hasn’t spent much time as the head coach of the Washington Redskins, but he’s already proven that his team can waste 2nd half timeouts like a veteran.  It makes little sense to adopt a strategy that shortens the game when your team is losing, and it makes even less sense when your team is short on time outs.  I’m not really sure what the thinking as late in this game.    

 
Next week Kirk Cousins!   

 

 

TK

In The Interim

The Bill Callahan era began here at the Hard Rock Stadium in Miami. For the first quarter it was really,really bad football being played by both teams. 
The Redskins were determined to establish the Run game. The First Quarter all they established was that they still couldn’t run. Or pass. Or do much of anything. 
 

It wasn’t until the 2nd Quarter that Peterson was able to start ripping the worst Run D in the League for chunks of 18 & 24 yards. The Skins managed to score a TD with a 25 yard pass to Scary Terry McLaurin. 
 

The Dolphins would open the Second Half only managing five plays before the Redskins would get the ball punted back to them. They would run a balanced run/pass attack of six plays for 70 yards in 1:25 ending in McLaurin’s second touchdown of the day. The Defense would then get a turnover allowing the Offense to get to Field Goal range and add another 3 points to make the score 17-3. 
 

To open the Fourth Quarter, Hopkins would miss a 55 yard Field Goal, leaving the score at 17-3.  After being sacked five times, the Dolphins would pull their own switcharoo at QB and go to Ryan “Neckbeard” Fitzpatrick which resulted in a touchdown drive for them, making it 17-10. They went for & recovered the Onside Kick. They also managed to not score any points after that. The Dolphins would find theirselves with ball at the 2:00 Warning. Fitzpatrick would take them on a 9 play 75 yard touchdown drive with six seconds remaining on the clock. Miami went for the win with the 2 Point Conversion and failed. The Redskins would recover the onside kick by Miami and Keenum took a knee to get the Redskins their first win of the season. 

Destino

Four games in, four losses in the books, and we’re set to play our third quarterback of the season.  Safe to say things have not gone as planned.  Certainly not as hoped.  Walking around the parking lots today, between various fan tailgates, the question fans seemed to be discussing the most was not the outcome of today’s game.  Virtually everyone assumes the Redskins will lose, the only notable exception was an odd Dolphins fan @Spaceman Spiff ran into who, oddly, predicted a 44-0 victory for the Dolphins. 
 

The question fans were buzzing about is if today is ‘the day’ Dan and Bruce finally send Jay Gruden off towards his future endeavors.  That he will not be back next season seems as inevitable as the outcome of today’s game, but will just any loss be enough for Dan to push the red button or will it take something special?  Not the sort of thing fans wish to be talking about just five weeks into the season.

It wasn't all negative.  No matter how bad things get for NFL football fans three words of hope will always remain.  The hope of the terrible, and the fear of the good.  Any given Sunday.

 

 

The Redskins declared the following players as Inactive: 
Case Keenum  
Josh Harvey-Clemons 
Aaron Colvin  
Ross Pierschbacher  
Brandon Scherff  
Veron Davis  
Jordan Reed 

 

The Patriots declared the following players as Inactive: 
Cody Kessler  
Patrick hung  
Rex Burkhead  
Damien Harris  
Nate Ebner  
Korey Cunningham  
Byron Cowart 

 

1st Qtr: Redskins 7 - Patriots 6

Maybe it’s all this diet coke talking but I’m feeling pretty good after one quarter of football.  The Redskins are winning and we haven’t even started passing the ball yet.  (I assume Jay and Colt are saving that stuff for later.)  
 
The Redskins defense scared me a little when they gave up what looked like an all-too-easy scoring drive but they managed to regroup and mostly limit the Patriots offense for the rest of the quarter.   
 
We only need three more quarters like this one and the game is ours!  Simple, right?

 

Halftime Redskins 7 – Patriots 12  

After all the talk about Colt, Jay’s favorite, returning from injury I expected the team to... you know... actually pass the ball.  That certainly didn’t happen.  The only the Redskins offense did in the 2nd qtr worth remembering is turn the ball over twice inside their own 20.  Luckily, it’s half time.  Gruden is sure to put in some adjustments that get these guys back on track.   
 
The Redskins defense was an entirely different story.  They were placed in impossible situations and held the Pats to just two field goals.  I’m confident they’ll be just as good in the second half.

 

I smell food.... back later! 

 

3rd Qtr: Redskins 7 - Patriots 26

Hand thrown t-shirts are not nearly as fun as those blasted out of canons.  That needed to be said. 
 

The third quarter was what I think most of us expected going into this game.  The Redskins offense proved to be entirely ineffective while the Patriots had little trouble getting into the endzone.  I don’t know who is in charge of halftime adjustments for the Redskins but they should consider trying playing better in the 2nd half.  If nothing else, it would be a refreshing change of pace. 
 
On the bright side... I can’t even finish that sentence.  I’m getting another cookie.     

 

4th Qtr  Redskins 7 – Patriots 33  

Credit where credit is due.  The guy with the D *fence picture* sign on the sideline has not let the fact that most of the fans have left diminish his energy.  That most of the fans remaining in his little corner of the world are Patriots fans has not slowed him either.  He has continued to implore fans to make noise with his little sign no regardless of circumstance. 
 

On the field the march towards the inevitable continues.  Patriots added 7 more while the Redskins offense showed us why they are ranked in the bottom of the league.   


Highlight of the 4th quarter, for me, was watching Sal Paolantonio get so bored with the game that he eventually fled from his seat. 

 

Final Thoughts

The game may not have played out exactly as expected from the very beginning but it eventually got there.  Redskins ended up getting blown out by the Patriots in FedEx Field in front of a crowd largely made comprised of Patriots fans.  Turns out that expecting it doesn't make it any more enjoyable to watch.

Next week, against the dolphins, might be our best chance to win a game all season.  As much as there can be a "must win" in what is sure to be a lost season, next week is it.  Fans are never happy watching a loss, but losing to the Pats is expected.  If this team finds a way to lose next week, things will get ugly. 

NewCliche21

I'm sitting here in the press box with a personal conflict.  I want us to win, yes.  But I want us to win a Super Bowl.  This year, unless we have a Gibbs-like turnaround or 2012 going from 3-6 to 10-6, ain't that year.  We had high hopes out of the gate, the offseason seemed to be drama-free for the most part, it looks like we got something special in Scary Terry, and for the most part the draft seemed serviceable at least. 

Of course we started off with our starter-by-salary-only hurt, but at least we had McCoy with the steady hand.  Oh, wait, he's still hurt?   Um, okay, who do we have now?  Keenum?  Wasn't he in Minny and replaced by the other guy who used to be wearing number 8 here? Uh, okay, I guess that's fine.  Colt will be back any minute now, right?  Oh, that's a negative, too.  Well, we have that Haskins guy we drafted, but we'll sit him like the Jags and Giants are doing with their rookies.  More on that in a minute.  Then we have Williams holding out, us refusing to trade him for a ship ton of picks like Miami did, while he takes up the cap.  Reed gets hurt because why not and then we sign a couple of placeholders while our next big homegrown signing in, number 75, starts playing at 75% and then gets injured because, again, why not?

I'll change my name to Francis so that I can be frank:  This ain't going well.  Everything was fantastic when we were up 17-0 against Philly in their house, and it's just been a steady trajectory of suck since then.  With rumors swirling about this game potentially being the last straw for Gruden, it's not going well.

And on the other sideline?  All those LOL's at taking Jones at #6 have turned into quite chortles while our rookie sits behind a five-turnover game by the new guy.  Our coach is making excuses that our team has new players, which is the same for 31 other teams, and that we've got to execute.  The Giants, though, benched a two-time Super Bowl MVP (in case you weren't sick to your stomach by this team already) in order to start Daniel Ten Cents or whatever they're calling him.  Their alleged once-in-a-generation running back goes down, and now they look better than ever.  What do we do?  Have our once-in-a-draft running back get injured while our Hall of Fame back, um, sits?  I mean Thompson's on my fantasy team so there's some selfish plus to that, but, okay?

And of course injury bug.

So, this comes back to the conflict between the angel and devil on my shoulders.  Do we win today and really make a run at it, going 16-3 to win the Super Bowl?  Nah, the brownie I ate wasn't the special type, so I don't see that happening.  But do we want to beat the Giants just because Giants?  I guess.  But something that this team has really robbed of us is any real hope, replaced by a passionate apathy and a team logo of shoulder shrugs.

So, we'll see.  Nobody's gotten hurt at warm ups so far, so we've got that going for us.

 

Let's see if anything else gets going today.

 

INACTIVES:

McCoy

McLaurin (replaced with Harmon)
Colvin

McKinzy

Roullier (replaced by Bergstrom at center)

Scherff (replaced by Martin at right guard)

Reed (Obviously Vernon Davis at TE)

 

This does mean that Robert Davis is active and Dwayne Haskins is our #2.  If Keenum plays like he did last week, then be ready to see Haskins on the field.
 

Fun note:  If Haskins takes any snaps today, then he will be the SIXTH quarterback since November 2018:


  • 1)  Smith
  • 2)  McCoy

3)  Sanchez

  • 4)  Johnson
  • 5)  Keenum

 

Fifteen minutes until kickoff, and we had no visible injuries during warm-ups.  Woot.

 

FIRST QUARTER:

 

Let the stupid begin.  Stupid pass on that pick, RIDICULOUS decision to not decline the hold leads to a first down for NY at the 19.

 

And we're five minutes in and we've already had a pick, a dumb call to accept a failed third down, and given up a touchdown due to a miscommunication.

 

More self-inflicted BS.  The Giants dominated that quarter as we had ten or fewer plays from scrimmage.

 

Atrocious start, and the trajectory isn't pointing up.

 

SECOND QUARTER:

 

Let's see if we get a different result.  Keep in mind this drive started at their six, and at the beginning of the quarter, they're on our 44.

 

And at 12:01 left in the half, touchdown.  An unbelievable amount of stupid in penalties.  No update on Norman yet.

 

Norman back.  Hell of a hit by Settle and a pick by Dunbar at the 8:17 mark.

 

And the Haskins era begins at 6:35 left in the half.

 

Haskins with four good minutes, including that 14-yard scramble, rookie miss to Davis.

 

END OF THE HALF:

 

Well, this looks pretty bad.  Having the spark with Haskins was good, and he's already out-playing Keenum.  Unfortunately that's like being the tallest of the Seven Dwarves, but he was pretty okay.  Nobody expected him to light it up.

When it comes to the defense, we've got two picks on Daniel Jesus, but we keep extending drives and they're destroying us on TOP.  The biggest problem?  Penalties, specifically holds in the secondary.

 

It still doesn't feel like a win is coming, but it feels like maybe the tide is turning with the team.  Hopefully we will be able to play a little less stupidly and we'll see what that brings.  Still doesn't feel like we're doing too much right to outweigh the dumbass mistakes.

 

Let's hope that Haskins lights it up once we get the ball back.  Giants receive at the half.

 

THIRD QUARTER:


Well, Haskins threw his first TD pass, just to the wrong team.  We continue to have an ungodly amount of flags.  Stupid, stupid flags.  I feel like they can just take the burgundy out of our uniforms and just keep the gold, since that's the only impact we're having today.

Haskins is not lighting it up like Jones did, but folks, remember that this is how a rookie typically plays.

 

FOURTH QUARTER:

And with pick and loss number 4, we're out.

The battle for Tua begins Week 6.

 

____________________________________________________________

 

Well, here's at least something good with some of the fans here in Not New York.  And that's @TK giving the finger to this stadium so I have permission. #dontbanme

There were quite a few out there tailgating at about 9:00 (they open the gates at 8:00), probably twice as many as there were on Monday Night since, you know, nobody not wearing a Bears jersey was there after halftime.
 

IMG_20190929_092259.thumb.jpg.c1b78ae4e051097d7bfbd79eabd593b5.jpgIMG_20190929_092304.thumb.jpg.889246a682a6770653964e31585f513a.jpgIMG_20190929_100256.thumb.jpg.16a8b2eb1b66d4c4fd2302fb4e3b93d1.jpg

TK

The Olive Jar

In sales, there's a saying when you just can't get one on the books. A deal is like a jar of olives. They're there. You know they're there, but they're just not coming out because they're packed in tightly in the jar. But then when you eventually get that first one out, the rest start to come out easily.

 

Three weeks into the Season and the Redskins are still shaking their olive jar trying to get that first win. This weekend is their third Divisional game in four weeks. They're on the road and facing a rookie Quarterback in his second start. The Giants are also without their First Round running back pick from last year in Saquon Barkley. And OBJ was shipped off to Cleveland during the offseason. 

 

Is this the week the Redskins finally take a hammer to their olive jar and smash out their first win? 

 

Vote now! As usual, poll will close at kickoff. 

JimmiJo

ES Coverage – Redskins vs Bears – MNF Edition

 

9/23/19

 

 

Can you say; “Must Win?”

 

“But Pappas, it’s only week 3, there’s all this football to be played, they could turn it around, there’s lot of stuff left to play for.”

 

Blow it out your rear end.

 

Evening friends. My name is JimmiJo (or John Pappas for short) and I am joined by The Spaceman Spiff for this latest installment of Washington Redskins football.

Speaking of which; if this team loses this game in this stadium on this night; something bad is going to happen somewhere. To somebody.

 

Look, what do I know? But this season and this team have already a sense of desperation. As in, fear of unemployment desperate.

 

Sure, we all knew the schedule was tough. But the hope was surely the Redskins would snatch a win out the first two weeks. And for one-half of week 1 it looked probable. Until it didn’t.

And if they couldn’t win, could they at least be competitive?

 

Apparently not, as the Redskins have not looked likely to win a match at any time since the first half of the Week 1 matchup against the Philadelphia Eagles. Sure, they took an early lead against the Cowboys. And for approximately 20-mintues they were competitive.

 

But in both matches, once the wheels came off, defeat seemed inevitable.

 

And there is something to be said by the manner of the defeats. These were not down-to-the-wire close battles that could have gone either way. Both Philadelphia and Dallas won convincingly.

 

With that as a backdrop, there is the understandable unease surrounding the team.

 

On paper, Washington was expected to have a stingy defense that would create problems for offensive lines. Instead we have seen a defense allowing hundreds of yards of production rushing, while surrendering big explosive pass plays for scores.

 

Offensively, the Redskins have looked better than expected in areas, if those areas are quarterback. If you can’t say Case Keenum has played well (and I think you can), you can at least say there will be no controversy.

 

But they need to do more than look good in areas.

 

In Chicago they have a chance to get well. Chicago comes in 1-1. They are ranked 30th in overall offense, but 4th in defense total yards. They struggles on offense should present opportunities for the Redskins.

 

Opportunities Washington must take advantage of.

 

We predicted a Washington win. It would be kinda nice to be correct.

 

Stand by…

 

Inactives

The Redskins declared the following players as inactive:

o   No. 12 QB Colt McCoy

o   No. 23 CB Quinton Dunbar

o   No. 58 LB Cassanova McKinzy

o   No. 64 C Ross Pierschbacher

o   No. 67 G Wes Martin

o   No. 78 DL T.Y. McGill

o   No. 86 TE Jordan Reed

 

The Bears declared the following players as inactive:

o   No. 22 DB Kevin Toliver II

o   No. 27 DB Sherrick McManis

o   No. 38 RB Kerrith Whyte Jr.

o   No. 55 LB Josh Woods

o   No. 70 OL Bobby Massie

o   No. 88 WR Riley Ridley

o   No. 98 DT Bilal Nichols

 

Follow along in-game on Twitter @Skinscast 

 

JimmiJo

 

Stuff just got real.

 

I believe some games reveal things in a new way or in a manner that cements a point of view, or intuition.

 

For us, this was the night where I witnessed the rigidness of an offensive coach and seeming refusal to change a scheme based on the realities before him.

 

Of course I am talking about head coach Jay Gruden. He would disagree with this. How do I know? I asked him.

 

“We tried,” said Gruden was asked if there were things he could do to help counter the effect Khalil Mack was having on his offense (and the other rushers for Chicago. “We left a back in, would have the tight ends chip on the way to their routes, but he is a special player.”

 

It was encouraging to hear, as these are the types of things teams do to help with a premier rusher. Only I didn’t recall seeing it. But then Gruden then pointed out an extremely credible aspect.

 

“The real problem was being down three scores and then they know we become one-dimensional, having to pass. When that happens you get to see a special players do special things.”

 

Fair dues. But for my money this was a game of slow-to-no reactions to what was obvious issues protecting Case Keenum.

 

And then six turnovers happen. If Washington ever had a real chance in this it ended when they started giving the Bears the ball inside the 10-yard line.

 

And before you know it the Redskins were down 28-0 before they got off the snide with a 35-yard field goal with 43-seconds remaining in the 1irst half. A quick scan of the drive chart will reveal the success the Bears enjoyed:

 

1.      Punt

2.      Punt

3.      Touchdown

4.      Touchdown

5.      Touchdown

6.      Missed field goal

7.      Interception

8.      Punt

9.      Field goal

 

Just under 50-percent scoring effectiveness. And the drive chart does not reflect the pick-six interception to start Chicago’s scoring.

Conversely, the Redskins fared much worse in the first half.

 

1.      Interception

2.      Punt

3.      Missed Field Goal

4.      Fimble

5.      Interception

6.      Field Goal

 

Washington was more effective in the second-half

 

1.      Interception

2.      Touchdown

3.      Toucdown

4.      Fumble

5.      End of game

 

As for stand out players, there were a few, but for all the wrong reasons.

 

As good an early season as Case Keenum had, he strove to completely reverse it tonight, being involved in six separate turnovers, with five ultimately lost.

 

Keenum finished the night 30/43 for 331-yards, 2 touchdowns, 3 interceptions and a passer rating of 78.7. What is not included in his QB stats are the three fumbles he was involved with it, two which were lost.

 

The Redskins were a little more productive in the run game; but barely. They finished the night 70-yards on 21-carries across three runners in Keenum, Adrian Peterson, and Chris Thompson.

 

Peterson went 37-yards on 12-carries for a 3.1 yard avg. Thompson finished-up 29-yards on 7 carries for a paltry 1.5-yard average.

 

Defensively, the team surrendered 298-yards total. They registered 3-sacks and an interception.

 

But they also allowed a third-down efficiency of 62-percent to Chicago.

 

Penalties were again a problem, with Washington logging 9 total for 61 yards.

 

Bottom line, this was a failure of coaching for me. Washington’s offense did not adapt to the pressure of Chicago’s front seven. And as they slipped further and further back their challenges became more profound as the Redskins had to more and more abandon the running game.

 

Despite Gruden’s assurances, the instances of keeping a back home to block or chipping Mack and others were noticeably absent. And it costs them as the front pressure of the Bears was the major contributor to the loss.

 

And where do they go from here?

 

This game may not be the catalyst for a change on coaching staff at the coordinator level. But it may have lit the fuse. At the end of the day the same old problems emerged and there are only so much excuses to give before it is apparent where the issues really lie.

 

The good news? There are still 13-games to go. Groan.

TK

When's The Win?

The Redskins have opened their 2019 season with two losses. Both against Divisional foes. Now they get to close out Week 3 at home on Monday Night against the visiting 1-1 Chicago Bears. The Bears don't have much of an offense but seem to have what may be an elite defense.

 

On the flip side, the Redskins have a developing passing attack and a disastrous defense. The Redskins haven't had a Defense this vanilla since Mike Nolan received his ice cream. Oh, and the Redskins already have more guys on IR then any other team this season. 

 

Will the Redskins finally put one in the win column? 

 

As usual, poll closes at kickoff. Go vote!

TK

InDefensible

 In today's Divisional Debacle, the Defense under Greg Manusky in the first half, gave up 207 yards of offense (105 rushing/102 passing) and two touchdowns.  That said, they did manage a single INT on which the Offense actually managed to score a touchdown off of. They allowed 12 of 16 passes to be completed . 

 

In the second half it was 107 yards given up (58 rushing//49 passing) a field goal and a touchdown. They traded their first half pick for a second half sack. However, Dallas completed all five of their pass attempts. 

 

Don't read that thinking "Well it seems like they tightened up some in the 2nd half."  They didn't. They simply had about half the plays in the second half. 30 plays in the First and 18 in the Second.

 

So far in two Divisional matchups, the Defense has faltered in the Second half. They start out like a house of fire for the first few drives until their opponents gradually make adjustments. This Defensive coaching staff fails make any adjustments, whether in game or at the very least at Halftime. They've given up over 30 points per game for a total of 63 points given up in two games. While the Bears are up next, the Pats await and they've put up over 70 points in two games. Yeah. Ok. They did shut out the Dolphins today which is looking like the NFL version of ... ahem... shooting fish in a barrel. 

 

The frustrating thing is Manusky is the DC that the Front Office actively looked to replace during the off season without firing him. When you know they're looking to replace you, most people would make a concentrated effort to show an improvement. Yet Manusky's Defense still keeps acting like it's starring in Groundhog Day.
 

In his post game presser, when asked directly about if any coaching changes would be made, Gruden said "No, I think after two games – you’re talking about playing two very good offensive football teams and two of the best offensive lines in pro football we just played back-to-back. That’s no excuse whatsoever, but I don’t think we need to hit the panic button yet. We just have to continue to focus on what we can do better to win. Get Jonathan [Allen] in here, get a couple of our corners back in here and let’s go back and strap it up against Chicago [Bears] next week and see what happens.” 

 

Here's another frustrating thing. The defensive communication was an issue last season as well. Wasn't this supposed to have been worked on during OTA's and Training Camp? It's understandable that the rookies would still be on a learning curve, but NFL vets like Collins and DRC you'd think they would have down by the start of the season. 

 

Gruden said they're a very talented group on Defense but that they weren't reaching them. When questioned as to why the coaching staff that has been in place for several years, wasn't reaching them, he defended the comment as them being a young defense. We have some moving parts now. Landon Collins is a veteran guy but this is his first year, [Montez] Sweat’s in his first year, [Cole] Holcomb, it’s his first year, [Jon] Bostic is in his first year. We’re playing Dominique [Rodgers-Cromartie] at corner and this is Jimmy Moreland’s first year, so it’s not like we are the most experienced group. We feel like were very talented, but we`re still fighting through somethings. There are a lot of things to look forward to, without a doubt, but we do have to play better and strap it up and get back to work."


 

 

 

JimmiJo

ES Coverage Cowboys vs Redskins 2019

 

9/15/19

 

Do I look like I'm playing? I'm not playing. This is the Washington Redskins versus the Dallas Cowboys. If you are a fan of this game, and this one does not get you excited you might want to check your pulse.

 

Hello my friends it is I, JimmiJo, back for another year of this wonderful thing we call Redskins Football. This makes season 14 for me. I am joined by The Spaceman Spiff who will hereafter be known as "The Spaceman Spiff." 

 

Where's that dude that gets the big tattoos on his back? There's his next one.

 

So how important is this game? I don't know. What is the different between 1-1 and 0-2? The difference between batting .500 and zippy?

 

Throw in that this is their 2nd division game to start the year AND a home game and you have a critical match.

 

And once again they contend with critical injuries to start the year. Last year it was  their rookie star running back. This year its their 2nd year star...well you get the rest.  Darrius Guice is gone and not coming back this year. I think this really hurts him moving forward. Not sure who will build a scheme around him given his first two seasons.

 

So it is down to the veteran Adrian Peterson. I have no worries of ring rust for hum. None whatsoever. He knows what to do.

 

Anyway, almost time. Please share your thoughts.

 

Stand by...

 

Inactives

 

The Redskins declared the following players as inactive:

o   No. 12 QB Colt McCoy

o   No. 23 CB Quinton Dunbar

o   No. 31 Fabian Moreau

o   No. 64 C Ross Pierschbacher

o   No. 67 G Wes Martin

o   No. 86 TE Jordan Reed

o   No. 93 DT Jonathan Allen

 

The Cowboys declared the following players as inactive:

o   No. 10 WR Tavon Austin

o   No. 37 S Donovan Wilson

o   No. 57 LB Luke Gifford

o   No. 61 C Adam Redmond

o   No. 69 G Brandon Knight

o   No. 79 DT Trysten Hill

o   No. 97 DE Taco Charlton

 

Follow along in-game at Twitter @Skinscast 

 

JimmiJo

 

Head coach Jay Gruden said it is not time to press the panic button when asked if staff changes could occur on the defensive coaching staff. It may not be for him, but he might want to pay attention to the sounds coming from the owners suite at Redskins Park.

 

For example the sound of shouting and heavy objects striking walls could portend an early offseason for someone.

 

The Washington Redskins are now 0-2 to start the season. They are 0-2 in the division.

 

If that is not panic-inducing, they face a Chicago Bears football team (themselves in need of a solid win) on Monday Night Football next. A series they do not typically do well on.

 

In both games to open the campaign the winning teams had the game well in hand at the start of the fourth quarter, despite Washington taking leads in each of the games.

 

Against Dallas, the team began well again; taking a 7-0 lead into the second quarter. This was not quite the 17-0 start they had in Philadelphia. Nor did it take until halftime for the Cowboys to adjust.

 

It happened on Dallas’ fourth drive. Starting at their own 3-yard line at 9:44 in the 2nd period, the Cowboys employed a combination of runs up the middle and quick outs in the flats and sideline to advance the ball 97-yards in 7 plays and tie the game.

 

Following a three-and-out by Washington, Dallas went 74-yards on 11-plays to take the 14-7 lead at halftime.

 

The 3rd Quarter began with the Cowboys receiving the ball at their own 25. Nine plays  and 75-yards later they were leading 21-7.

 

The Redskins made it interesting with their own 11-play, 70-yard drive to cut he lead to 7.

 

But Dallas responded with a field goal. And would add another touchdown in the fourth quarter to extend the lead to 17.

 

Washington’s consolation score with just under 3-minutes remaining allowed rookie Terry McLaurin to add a touchdown to his debut season.

 

The Redskins have developed a reputation for not responding well to adjustments. They had little answer for the adjustments Dallas made to their offense. Ditto the game in Philadelphia.

 

In both, Washington had a lead to protect and could not.

 

Coming into the season the defense was expected to the be the strength of the team. Yet in two games they have surrendered 910 yards (445 per game) and 63 points. Not exactly setting the world on fire.

 

Statistically the Redskins defense are near the bottom in points allowed and yards surrendered.

 

The coach wants to blame injuries. Not only the their excellent young nose tackle in Jonathan Allen, but also to the secondary which has already gone significant realignment to accommodate injuries to Quinton Dunbar and Fabian Moreau.

 

Still, with the specter of a season going off the rails after only two games, the fans want someone to blame.

 

Wont be the quarterback. Case Keenum has completed 68.2 percent of his passes. He has thrown 3 touchdowns against no interceptions.

Ditto other skill positions. Adrian Peterson did not his best outing but the team abandoned the run early. The receivers are doling their own, with guys like McLaurin shining.

 

And as bad as the collapse was last week and the home loss this, it feels too early to call for the head coach.

 

That leaves those in charge of the defense. Specifically, Defensive Coordinator Greg Manusky.

 

Fan ire seems more and more to be falling on Manusky, if sentiment on twitter and sports radio means anything.

 

But they don’t decide who stays and who leaves. That is the job of the head coach who so far, is backing his guy.

 

But there is a higher authority at Redskins Park. Legend has it owner Daniel Snyder once put a gallon of vanilla ice cream outside a Redskins defensive coordinator’s door following a poor performance by the defense.  

 

Given the start to this season, Manusky could be hearing the ice cream truck in his sleep. And that would be better than what many of the fans are wishing for him.

 

 

TK

 

Last year the Redskins home opener was 57,013 which was roughly 20,000 empty seats. And the Redskins had a 1-0 record

 

 

 

 

Two years ago, home opener attendance was announced as 78,658. 

 

This Sunday, the Redskins have their home opener in a Week 2 Divisional matchup against the 1-0 Dallas Cowboys. 

 

Cast your vote now & feel free to discuss below. 

 

Poll closes at Kickoff.

TK

Let's start off by saying that if an NFL game was only 30 minutes long, then the Redskins would have left Philly with an easy win. They out controlled the Eagles with 16:41 on Time of Possession. It only took them 4:06 on their opening drive to go 80 yards in 7 plays when Keenum hit Vernon Davis on a short pass to the right sideline. Davis would hurdle the defender, not get touched down, and take it to the End Zone to hush the crowd. 

 

large.IMG_2136.JPG.de3a42f84ef4c795d9964

 

 

Rookie WR Terry McLaurin would introduce himself to the League in their 3rd drive. The drive started with a 2 yard run by Guice, a Time Out, and then Keenum hits McLaurin for a 69 yard Touchdown. This 52 second drive put the Redskins up 17-0 & in cruise control. 

 

large.IMG_2244.JPG.4dca865345d3255af8b49

 

It wouldn't be until a little over four minutes before the Half that the Eagles would avoid the shut out as the Defense would get torched by DJax for his first touchdown of 51 yards. It was like the old days before Chip Kelly released him and the Skins signed him. It doesn't matter who's running the Defense or who's playing on Defense, it just seems that the Redskins have yet to find a way to stop him. Well, except for that time they signed him. Maybe they should have found the cap space to re-sign him.

 

For an Offense that was believed to go through Guice and the run game, Guice could never get going in the First Half. Philly would continue to stack the box & take away the run. Even if AP wasn't a healthy scratch today, he may not have made much of a difference. The run game game managed to sputter out a measly 31 yards. Case Keenum managed to overcome this though the air with 257 passing yards.

 

large.IMG_2111.JPG.9a7d95019d0677bafa17e

 

At the Half it was Redskins 20 - Eagles 7. 

 

And then the wheels came off. In the Second Half the Eagles would flip the script and control the clock. The Eagles would come back with three unanswered touchdowns, one with a 2 point conversion, and a field goal. It would take the Redskins all the way to the final seconds of the game before they'd score again. Keenum would hit Quinn with a 4 yard touchdown pass to cut the final score to 32-27. 

 

 

 

 

TK

This Sunday the Redskins open their season on the road in Filthadumpia. *

 

The Skins are on a streak of actually winning their last three road openers.

 

On the flip side, the Eagles have a four game win streak over the Skins.

 

Something's gonna give this Sunday. Who keeps their streak alive when it's all said & done. 

 

Cast your vote now. Poll closes at Kickoff. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Filthadelphia originally coined by @skins island connection

Destino

Good afternoons Redskins fans, I’m here with the exceedingly friendly, but not always creepy, @Spaceman Spiff to bring you live coverage of the final moments of the long dead 2018 season.  I will welcome the end to this misery from the warm confines of the press box, while Spiff rolls around in the mud in order to justify his continued ownership of knee pads.

 

Special thanks to @pez and @Huly for the warm welcome and great food at the tailgate.  I certainly didn't plan on eating an enormous bowl of beef stew today, but it was delicious.  Also, bourbon.

 

A season that began with greater promise than most of us expected ends not with a bang, but a whimper.  All we have left is a chance to play spoiler., so let’s all embrace the pettiness of “if we can’t win, then neither can they” for one day.  With a win the Redskins can deny the Eagles a chance at the playoffs and a chance to defend their title.  One Superbowl is enough for that fan base and the Redskins would really be doing everyone a favor by winning today.  The world doesn’t need more Eagle fans. 
 
There’s only one problem.  Winning isn’t something the Redskins have done very much of since the team was beaten mercilessly by the injury bug.  Well for the especially petty few among our fan base there is something to be had in losing as well.  Or at least there could be.  If the Vikings lose, then a Redskins loss would keep Kirk Cousins out of the playoffs.  (Wouldn't be the first-time poor play by the Redskins have kept Kirk out of the playoffs.) 

 

Side note:  I can see, from my perch in the press box, Eagles fans in furry white costumes with Eagles jerseys on over them.  Have these people never seen an eagle before or are they supposed to be some sort of eagle like monster? Is there such a thing as a were-eagle? 

 

blog will be updated as the game unfolds, check back for updates....

 

1st Quarter Updates:

This is an eagle home game. I’m not sure how apparent this is on TV but the clear majority here are eagle fans.  The Redskins were very loudly booed on their way out of the tunnel.

 

First play of the game was an interception, Eagles gave it back, and the rest of the first quarter was exactly as exciting as 3-0 sounds. 

 

tshirt canon malfunctioned.  We'll never hit enough of these eagle fans without the canon.  All hope is lost. 

 

2nd quarter update: 

"This feels like a home game for X" is a thing that is often said when too many fans from opposing teams show up, but is usually greatly exaggerated.  Not today.  The chants I can hear from my vantage point are entirely for the eagles and the stadium erupted in cheers when Philly scored a touchdown.  And then there's this (note the colors in the seats):

3tNrmpv.jpg

 

Half time!

How many hotdogs would be too many to eat during half time?  I'm going with four.  I would never eat four. 

 

3rd Quarter Update:

Redskins continue to struggle, Eagles score again, and just when you think there is no reason to watch *boom* they hit you with the fake punt.  Sadly no points.  On the bright side most of the fans in the stadium seem to be happy with the way things are going. 

 

Main topic of conversation in the press box is the Vikings Bears game going on far away in a universe where football isn't nearly as sad as it it in this one. 

 

4th Quarter Update.

This is it folks, the last quarter of football and many questions remain unanswered.  By how many points will we lose this game?  Will the Redskins be shut out?  Will Kirk feel guilty about taking all that money from the Vikings?

 

Loudest cheers in FedEx field in the 4th quarter were from Eagles fans... for the Bears. 

 

Redskins finish the game on the losing end of a 24-0 shut out. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

JimmiJo

ES Coverage: Giants vs Redskins 

 

12/9/18

 

DEFEAT!!!

 

Giants 40 - Redskins 16

 

Greetings friends, JimmiJo here, and I am joined by my shivering partner, Spaceman Spiff. Together we will bring you this all important NFC East divisional matchup between the Washington Redskins and New York Giants.

 

When I was last with you the Redskins had command of the division and there was optimism to spare. Since, devastating injuries to quarterbacks, linemen, and cornerbacks has left this team losers in 4-of-5 contests.

 

But there is still everything to play for, and if they can manage a victory today and the Eagles to the same Washington will once again have a share of the lead.

 

I can dream can't I?

 

On paper, the future looks grim. A continued collapse will start the questions about the future of personnel and perhaps leadership. Yes, we can certainly point to injuries as the primary reason the team is struggling. But the record earlier in the year was masking some issues with the squad. No real arial threat. An inconsistent running game. And a defense that has been anything but consistent.

 

But these are questions for another time. Today, it is just two teams looking for a win.

 

See you at the half.

 

Follow along on Twitter @Skinscast 

 

Inactives

 

The Redskins declared the following players as inactive:

o   No. 12 QB Colt McCoy

o   No. 32 RB Samaje Perine

o   No. 46 RB Kapri Bibbs

o   No. 52 LB Ryan Anderson

o   No. 63 C Demetrius Rhaney

o   No. 66 G Tony Bergstrom

o   No. 99 DL Caleb Brantley

 

JimmiJo

 

I was happy to see players like Josh Johnson and Byron Marshall in the game. The marquee guys did not earn the right to play following the disastrous first half. It was historically bad.

 

Never before had the Washington Redskins trailed by as much as the 34-0 deficit they entertained today at the half.

 

I remarked to one of the writers that in 13-seasons I had never seen this team so outplayed as today. The offense led by Mark Sanchez was throw-up in mouth bad. At no point did you feel like they would or could score.

 

I tweeted before the game that it is time for Daniel Snyder to replaced head coach Jay Gruden. Yes injuries are the headline. But the offense was poor before the injuries.

 

No aerial threat and an inconsistent rushing. They only seemed to score 20-points per game.

 

What they did do well was hold on to the ball. And the defense was a takeover machine the first half of the year.

But turnovers tend to even out.

 

So I was more than glad to see those ‘backups’ play. All they did was show they should have been playing in the first half.

 

Especially Johnson. Take a look at your Redskins’ starter the rest of the way. From his first snap the offense looked different. There was energy. There was life.

 

And there was threat.

 

Johnson played with more command, accuracy and imagination than Mark Sanchez. He looked much more the accomplished quarterback.

 

A word on Josh Doctson. You are an idiot. Without the stupid penalty you are not letting the safety out-position you to make the pick with 5-minutes left.

 

Following this game, staring at the standings and considering possible scenarios for getting in the playoffs is fools’ gold. It is all about assessing who it worth keeping for next year.

 

I don’t believe head coach Jay Gruden is going to make the list. Nor should he. He has had nore than enough time to do something here. He had Kirk Cousins’ starting over 3-full seasons.

 

He had his chance.

 

I tweeted before the game team owner Daniel Snyder should let Gruden go and bring in Mike McCarthy. Washington Post writer (and friend) Rick Snider made a great counterpoint to that idea:

 

“Why would McCarthy want to come here? He has better options,” he said.

 

That sure feels like the truth. And if so, it may explain why Gruden is fast becoming one of the most tenured coaches in the league.

 

This was my last game for this season. I would like to thank Extremeskins and the team for the opportunity this year. I will see you guys next year.

 

Let me go on the record now and say I do not think Jay Gruden's position here is secure. Not with the likes of Mike McCarthy available.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.