HeHateMe Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.htm UNOFFICIAL 2005 DRAFT 1st-ROUND SELECTION ORDER X - final position still to be detemined by playoff results # Team W-L Opponents' W-L % 1 San Francisco 2-14 .488 2 Miami 4-12 .555 3 Cleveland 4-12 .590 4 Chicago 5-11 .465 5 Tampa Bay 5-11 .477 6 Tennessee 5-11 .508 7 Oakland 5-11 .570 8 Arizona 6-10 .461 9 Washington 6-10 .477 10 Detroit 6-10 .496 11 Dallas 6-10 .516 12 San Diego (from New York Giants*) 6-10 .516 13 Houston 7-9 .504 14 Carolina 7-9 .508 15 Kansas City 7-9 .555 16 New Orleans 8-8 .465 17 Cincinnati 8-8 .543 18X Minnesota 8-8 .481 19X St. Louis 8-8 .488 20X Dallas (from Buffalo**) 9-7 .512 21X Jacksonville 9-7 .527 22X Baltimore 9-7 .551 23X Seattle 9-7 .445 24X Green Bay 10-6 .457 25X Denver 10-6 .484 26X New York Jets 10-6 .523 27X Atlanta 11-5 .434 28X San Diego 12-4 .477 29X Indianapolis 12-4 .500 30X New England 14-2 .492 31X Philadelphia 13-3 .453 32X Pittsburgh 15-1 .484 * NY Giants 1st pick would be #43 ** Buffalo's 1st pick would be #54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan080 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 I'm pretty sure the Lions get to pick ahead of us, other than that it looks right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by skinsfan080 I'm pretty sure the Lions get to pick ahead of us, other than that it looks right. If youre basing that on head-to-head meeting, thats not the tiebreaker. Strength of schedule is tiebreaker number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMagicJuan Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 so we have the 10th pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by DonMagicJuan so we have the 10th pick? Ninth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 Now what I want to know is why Buffalo, Jacksonville and Baltimore have their picks grouped in with the playoff teams. A team can make the playoffs and still pick ahead of a team that didnt, if their record is worse than the team that didnt make the playoffs? i.e. St. Louis and Minnesota picking ahead of Buffalo, Jacksonville and Baltimore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by HeHateMe If youre basing that on head-to-head meeting, thats not the tiebreaker. Strength of schedule is tiebreaker number 1. I believe head to head is first......:whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by bubba9497 I believe head to head is first......:whoknows: That is what you would think it would be. But apparently its not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMac Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Head to head doesn't factor into draft tiebreakers at all. It never is one of the tiebreakers. Coin flip is before head-to-head, for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan080 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by HeHateMe If youre basing that on head-to-head meeting, thats not the tiebreaker. Strength of schedule is tiebreaker number 1. I stand corrected. Although I find that very weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by KevinMac Head to head doesn't factor into draft tiebreakers at all. It never is one of the tiebreakers. Coin flip is before head-to-head, for whatever reason. Yep. It looks like that is what will determine Dallas' and San Diego's pick. Winner gets 11, loser gets 12th. :fingersx: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted January 3, 2005 Author Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by skinsfan080 I stand corrected. Although I find that very weird. I agree. Head to head should be factored in at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCRoughrider Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 My guess is the reason the draft order tiebreaker doesn't use the playoff tiebreakers is that ties for draft order involve multiple teams from both conferences so in almost every case, it wouldn't apply. And it's draft order for the entire league, not conference. Strength of Schedule is really one of the few tie breakers that you can with multiple teams from both conferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by DonMagicJuan so we have the 10th pick? Originally posted by HeHateMe Ninth. Anyone else see something wrong here? Cowboy fan answering to "we" the Redskins? :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 For all ya'll saying Mike Williams you can forget it now. Chicago will take him without a doubt. They have ZERO playmakers on offense, especially WR after they traded Booker away. Give it up already, will ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by KevinMac Head to head doesn't factor into draft tiebreakers at all. It never is one of the tiebreakers. Coin flip is before head-to-head, for whatever reason. Totally false. Head-to-Head is Tiebreaker #2. Coin flip is #3. How in the hell can you say Coin Flip comes before Head-to-Head ?? That's implying that a Coin Flip can result in a Tie !! Coin flip is always last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty P For The Pulitzer Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by MothersAgainstDrunkPosts Totally false. Head-to-Head is Tiebreaker #2. Coin flip is #3. How in the hell can you say Coin Flip comes before Head-to-Head ?? That's implying that a Coin Flip can result in a Tie !! Coin flip is always last Maybe they flip the coin an even number of times! But I think he just meant that a coin toss is used instead of head-to-head, and I'm almost positive he is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Originally posted by bubba9497 I believe head to head is first......:whoknows: nope. If two or more non-playoff teams have the same record, strength of schedule is the tie-breaker...The team with the easiest schedule picks first...because they are a worse team.... If strength of schedule is the same, then they flip a coin... It is what it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERIC THE REDskinsfan Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Anyone else besides me laughing at the fact that the NEW YORK FOOTBALL GIANTS (makes me sick when Berman says that on Primetime) are giving their pick away?!? YAY!!!! :gaintsuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Ummmmm, how are they "giving" it away? They traded it for the rights to Eli Manning. And after last night, I'm ecstatic they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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