The Sir Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 This kid is trying to tell me that Deion Sanders is faster and calling me a homer. I thought it was pretty much accepted that Darrell is the fastest player ever, and certainly of this era. He happens to be an FSU fan by the way. Comments would be appreciated as to why you feel Darrell is faster or why you feel Deion is faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted September 24, 2004 Author Share Posted September 24, 2004 Now he's saying that because Darrell wasn't a full time return man, it means he's not as fast. He said that anyone that's faster than Deion would definitely be returning punts fulltime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Darrell. We'll use this as an example. While in colleger, and we all know DG's history in track, he ran an all time best of 10.08 in the 100. Deion's fastest I believe was a 10.26. Legend also has it Darrell actually chanllenged Deion to a race. Deion refused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVSkinsfan Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Darrel Green was the fastest by far!! Deion was fast but not even close as fast as the greatest CB of the game (GREEN).DG won those fastest man contests every year when he was in the league.Deion wouldn't even compete in those things b/c he knew that he couldn't beat DG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted September 24, 2004 Author Share Posted September 24, 2004 Look at this kid: noles2BCStitle: one of the best corners in the history of football noles2BCStitle: arguably THE best jasonterry4prez: Darrell Green is definitely better jasonterry4prez: but yeah, Deion is up there noles2BCStitle: i don't know about green definitely being better jasonterry4prez: he definitely is jasonterry4prez: better coverage, better tackling, more longevity noles2BCStitle: i mean no one EVER threw deion's way in his prime jasonterry4prez: no one ever threw Darrell's way jasonterry4prez: Darrell just didn't run his mouth jasonterry4prez: and did it for longer jasonterry4prez: thats the difference noles2BCStitle: he was like the barry bonds of the nfl jasonterry4prez: Darrell was the Barry Bonds of cornerbacks jasonterry4prez: Deion was the Mark Mcquire jasonterry4prez: one dimensional noles2BCStitle: deion's scored a td 6 different ways noles2BCStitle: far from 1-dimensional jasonterry4prez: He was a playmaker, not saying he wasn't jasonterry4prez: but he couldn't tackle jasonterry4prez: there's coverage and there's run support jasonterry4prez: thats the two aspects of playing corner jasonterry4prez: he had one of them noles2BCStitle: u never threw his way. and he was faster and quicker than green jasonterry4prez: FASTER??????? jasonterry4prez: Darrell Green is the fastest player in NFL history noles2BCStitle: no he's not noles2BCStitle: deion was sub-4.3 jasonterry4prez: yes he is jasonterry4prez: WOW jasonterry4prez: Darrell was faster than anyone to ever play the game noles2BCStitle: he was faster than anyone to ever play the game... noles2BCStitle: except deion jasonterry4prez: No jasonterry4prez: the only persont hat has an argument is Bob Hayes jasonterry4prez: Lots of people have been faster than Deion jasonterry4prez: I'll take Randy Moss's speed over Deions jasonterry4prez: I'll take Bo Jackson jasonterry4prez: Cliff Branch noles2BCStitle: those guys are not faster than deion was in his prime noles2BCStitle: if bo jackson was faster than deion he may have never been tackled jasonterry4prez: Darrell was running 4.3 at 41 years old noles2BCStitle: and he was probably running 4.3 at age 37 noles2BCStitle: like deion does now jasonterry4prez: it's not even one of those things that's argued jasonterry4prez: Darrell is regarded as the fastest player in NFL history noles2BCStitle: by who jasonterry4prez: everyone jasonterry4prez: When he beat Carl Lewis, it was over noles2BCStitle: u need to take those burgundy and yellow sunglasses off jasonterry4prez: you need to take that FSU sunglasses off kid jasonterry4prez: ask anyone who knows anything jasonterry4prez: ie. not your dumbass brother noles2BCStitle: was green even a returner jasonterry4prez: At times jasonterry4prez: they didn't want to risk injury jasonterry4prez: but they used him when they needed a return jasonterry4prez: He ran one back against the Bears in the playoffs to win a game noles2BCStitle: if he had deion speed, he woulda been a punt returner jasonterry4prez: haha jasonterry4prez: that's retarded jasonterry4prez: Vikings don't put Moss back there jasonterry4prez: it's not because he isn't fast jasonterry4prez: You don't want to risk injury to your franchise noles2BCStitle: moss is a different story because he's 6'4'' and slim, thus making him more vulnerable to injury noles2BCStitle: darrell green was a tank jasonterry4prez: You don't risk injury to your team's franchise jasonterry4prez: Just like Skins don't have Portis now jasonterry4prez: they have a return specialist in Chad Morton jasonterry4prez: Coles has the best combine 40 time of any NFL player in the league right now, but we don't have him running kicks back jasonterry4prez: it's a risk thing noles2BCStitle: deion was the falcons franchise jasonterry4prez: and the 49ers jasonterry4prez: and Cowboys jasonterry4prez: and Redskins jasonterry4prez: see a treng jasonterry4prez: and now the Ravens jasonterry4prez: he had no loyalty to one team noles2BCStitle: no, he was only the falcons franchise jasonterry4prez: Some teams don't mind risking their franchise then I guess jasonterry4prez: Joe Gibbs didn't want to do it jasonterry4prez: Joe Gibbs won 3 SBs jasonterry4prez: How many have the Falcons? noles2BCStitle: winning SB's goes a hell of a lot deeper than who u have returning kicks jasonterry4prez: Yeah, it has a lot to do with who you have making key decisions jasonterry4prez: Joe Gibbs put Darrell back there when they needed a big return and he never let down jasonterry4prez: You don't risk injury to your teams best player, it's just not smart. That's Gibbs's philosophy, it worked for him noles2BCStitle: green: 19 years, 981 tackles, 54 int's, 1 sack, 8 td's deion: 14 years, 348 tackles, 48 int's, 8 td's, 1 sack jasonterry4prez: Are you just trying to be annoying or do you actually think that noles2BCStitle: all green has on deion is that he was a better run supporter jasonterry4prez: ALL?????? jasonterry4prez: He was better in coverage, and did it over a longer period of time jasonterry4prez: PLUS, he could play the run noles2BCStitle: better in coverage? jasonterry4prez: Who's the better corner is not even a question jasonterry4prez: Speed is the question noles2BCStitle: he has 6 more picks in 5 more years jasonterry4prez: Darrell is undoubtedly the better corner jasonterry4prez: Picks don't measure how good a corner you are jasonterry4prez: 3 times as many tackles, that's a whole lot more jasonterry4prez: a WHOLE lot more noles2BCStitle: the question was coverage that you brought up noles2BCStitle: and i also said he was a better run support corner than deion jasonterry4prez: WAY BETTER jasonterry4prez: He's the better corner jasonterry4prez: that's without question jasonterry4prez: speed is the only argument, but Darrell beating Carl Lewis and winning every NFL's fastest man competition he entered kind of gives it away jasonterry4prez: They got rid of the fastest man competition because Darrell won it every year noles2BCStitle: 295 games, 129 PBU's 165 games, 75 PBU's noles2BCStitle: deion averages more PBU's a game. and he would've had more picks than him if he never retired at first/played as long as green jasonterry4prez: Deion got thrown at more noles2BCStitle: WHAT? noles2BCStitle: please tell me u were joking jasonterry4prez: They did the exact same things, except Deion ran his mouth and didn't have the longevity Darrell did. That's the only difference, other than the run support jasonterry4prez: I'm not joking jasonterry4prez: It's the truth noles2BCStitle: the last 6 years of deion's career they wouldn't even LOOK his way jasonterry4prez: THATS THE SAME WAY IT WAS WITH DARRELL HIS CAREER jasonterry4prez: It's like saying Keyshawn Johnson is better than Marvin Harrison because he runs his mouth noles2BCStitle: you talk about how similar they are, and then you say green was MUCH better than deion noles2BCStitle: that makes no sense at all jasonterry4prez: yes, because of run support jasonterry4prez: In coverage, they were pretty much equals jasonterry4prez: as playmakers, Deion had a slight edge jasonterry4prez: In run support and longevity, Darrell ****s on him jasonterry4prez: both are first ballot hall of famers noles2BCStitle: slight edge as a playmaker? noles2BCStitle: darrell green couldn't even dream of being 1/2 the playmaker deion was jasonterry4prez: hahahahahaha noles2BCStitle: does he have a td 6 different ways? noles2BCStitle: did he return punts? noles2BCStitle: did he return kicks? noles2BCStitle: did he catch passes? noles2BCStitle: did he run reverses? jasonterry4prez: He has returns for TD jasonterry4prez: He does have receptions jasonterry4prez: and reverses jasonterry4prez: and INT returns jasonterry4prez: did you watch him play before? jasonterry4prez: hahaha noles2BCStitle: what's he have? 2 rushes and 2 catches? jasonterry4prez: probably jasonterry4prez: he was a cornerback jasonterry4prez: Deion is better at playing offense, wow. Jon Ritchie is better at offense than Darrell Green, doesn't mean he's a better cornerback jasonterry4prez: how is offense relevant noles2BCStitle: im talking about being a playmaker jasonterry4prez: i said Deion had a slight edge jasonterry4prez: Even if he had a big edge, which he doesn't, he's still not better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soliloquy Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 "Why you care?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVSkinsfan Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Were did you find this kid from?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Also, if memory serves, in Darrells 18th season he ran something like a 4.2 something...which I think he did again in his last year. Not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVSkinsfan Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Originally posted by Soliloquy "Why you care?" Yeah I agree!! we all know who is better and whos the best to EVER play at the CB position.He's just wanting somebody to argue with!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamJT13 Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Darrell probably was faster than Deion, but he wasn't necessarily the fastest of all-time. His 10.08 in the 100 is only the third-fastest time by an NFL player, behind Bob Hayes' 10.06 and Alvis Whitted's 10.07. Deion's fastest 100 was 10.26, but he ran track only a few times because he also played baseball at FSU. His fastest 200 was 20.71. Both of those are faster than any of Green's national championship times (10.57 in the 100, and 20.96, 21.42 and 20.84 in the 200). Green's PR in the 200 was 20.50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiplohmillers#1 Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 I love the redskins but lets be realistic. No Cornerback in NFL history has ever had the impact Dieon had. Dieon ran a freakin 4.3 40 in Tim's at FSU. Darrell Green was great, and effective for 15yrs in the league but I would say he barley cracks the top 5 of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 In other words Darrells fastest time int he 200 was 20.50 and Deion's fastest was 20.71. Correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVSkinsfan Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Originally posted by chiplohmillers#1 I love the redskins but lets be realistic. No Cornerback in NFL history has ever had the impact Dieon had. Dieon ran a freakin 4.3 40 in Tim's at FSU. Darrell Green was great, and effective for 15yrs in the league but I would say he barley cracks the top 5 of all time. chiplohmillers,tell me who do you think was better than DG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Also chip, Darrells on record as running sub 4.2 during his career so I dont think that is a good criteria for your argument there. Now, before answering, let's make sure that we're talkinga bout Cornerbacks in both parts of the job. Deion was good at one, but not the other. Darrell was good at both. Also, Darrell's impact on the game was in fact equal to Deion's in several ways. Before Deion hit thel eague and he did it with very little fanfare. Unlike Deion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 ROFL! People still think that Deion was anywhere near as fast as Darrell Green? It wasnt even close. http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Darrell_Green "Darrell Green was a cornerback for the Washington Redskins from 1983 to 2002, playing with the Redskins only. He is considered to be one of the greatest to play this position. Amongst his honors are: Most consecutive seasons with an interception Oldest NFL cornerback League's fastest man 1991 Fastest Athlete Selected as one of the top 70 Redskins Green was also on the Redskins for their victories in Super Bowls XXII and XXVI Green retired in 2002 at the age of 42, the oldest Redskin. Besides football he is known for his charitable work, such as the Darrell Green Youth Life Foundation." So, in 1991 Green was the fastest athlete in the world? Deion was in the league in 1991 and I dont remember him winning the leagues fastest man year after year. Its no contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVSkinsfan Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Originally posted by lolhahaha ROFL! People still think that Deion was anywhere near as fast as Darrell Green? It wasnt even close. http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Darrell_Green "Darrell Green was a cornerback for the Washington Redskins from 1983 to 2002, playing with the Redskins only. He is considered to be one of the greatest to play this position. Amongst his honors are: Most consecutive seasons with an interception Oldest NFL cornerback League's fastest man 1991 Fastest Athlete Selected as one of the top 70 Redskins Green was also on the Redskins for their victories in Super Bowls XXII and XXVI Green retired in 2002 at the age of 42, the oldest Redskin. Besides football he is known for his charitable work, such as the Darrell Green Youth Life Foundation." So, in 1991 Green was the fastest athlete in the world? Deion was in the league in 1991 and I dont remember him winning the leagues fastest man year after year. Its no contest. Lolhaha,the think that also cracks me up is people still thinks that Deion was an all around better CB than DG.Deion was a good corner but he don't even come close to DG IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halter91 Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 I thought Dan Wilkinson was the NFL's fattest man? Oh you said fastest. My bad, yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Didn't Darrell beat Lewis in a challenge? I'm talking CARL LEWIS, the great Olympic track athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Wasn't Darrell almost recruited AWAY from football to run in the olympics, but he decided not to do it and stay in football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just skins baby Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 It seems the question asked in their prime and Darrell Green was the fastest man in football during his whole career. Deion is nowhere near DGs class. Deion will go in the HOF as will Darrell but Deion will go in for his mouth and showmanship which is what the voters look for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feeshta Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 One of the things that tells you a lot is Randy Moss. Moss's response when asked who the toughest corner he ever played against was Darrell Green, and he caught Darrel at the very end of his career. That says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Originally posted by chiplohmillers#1 I love the redskins but lets be realistic. No Cornerback in NFL history has ever had the impact Dieon had. Dieon ran a freakin 4.3 40 in Tim's at FSU. Darrell Green was great, and effective for 15yrs in the league but I would say he barley cracks the top 5 of all time. John Madden said it best when he said " Darrell Green was Deion before there ever was a Deion..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNYC Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 DG is still faster in his 40s now than deion was in his prime. Teams never threw at DG for what seemed like a decade. Teams threw at Deion to challenge him, he got luck a couple of times. An interesting stat would be how many TD's were allowed thrown DG's way vs. Deion. I bet you deion allowed multiple times as many as DG and Deion at 30 something is running over a 4.3 where DG when he retired was still sub 4.3 if I remember correctly. Deion got mouth. That he beats DG with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Deion is nowhere near DGs class. Deion will go in the HOF as will Darrell but Deion will go in for his mouth and showmanship which is what the voters look for now. Preach on brother!!! Sadly, the HOF voters go for style over substance anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASMTrainer Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 :laugh: :laugh: The funniest thing said in that whole conversation is noles2BCStitle: darrell green was a tank That's priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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