haraldjun Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Man two fumbles in two weeks and a interception with still a half to play what´s wrong with him:gaintsuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Brunell has no long ball. The giants are BEGGING him to throw downfield and he can't. Our QB is making a vertical passing game look like a west coast offense. Pathetic. Bench the veteran and put in someone with a pair of balls and a NFL caliber arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumar11 Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 agree... put in ramsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Sack Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Brunell played mediocre last week, but I sucked it up and forgave him. This week his work ethic and decisions are highly questionable. One more mistake and I have to agree, time to bench his veteran butt. I'm also tired of Rod "I'll-give-you-a-great-catch-for-every-two-easy-drops" Gardner. And LaVar talking trash to the opponents when he has done absolutely nothing, except for one sack, in 2 weeks.. QUIT TALKING! PLAY FOOTBALL!! We are getting used and abused and this has nothing to do with coaching. It has everything to do with the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Brunell is still displaying saavy veteran skill, I dunno if Ramsey can do that. However, I do want Ramsey in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Is this why we signed a veteran??????? To make a slide with 12 secs left!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdnGrey Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Althought it would be an SS move, i'd like to see Patrick start the second half. Unfortunetly, it wouldn't happen in a million years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afkidd Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Originally posted by Mr. S Brunell is still displaying saavy veteran skill, I dunno if Ramsey can do that. However, I do want Ramsey in. what skill are you talking about? fumbling the ball and throwing an interception? sliding with 12 seconds left in the quarter? TELL ME!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Originally posted by Potato Sack Brunell played mediocre last week, but I sucked it up and forgave him. This week his work ethic and decisions are highly questionable. One more mistake and I have to agree, time to bench his veteran butt. I'm also tired of Rod "I'll-give-you-a-great-catch-for-every-two-easy-drops" Gardner. And LaVar talking trash to the opponents when he has done absolutely nothing, except for one sack, in 2 weeks.. QUIT TALKING! PLAY FOOTBALL!! We are getting used and abused and this has nothing to do with coaching. It has everything to do with the players. Damn you are some harsh mo-fo's. You're questioning Brunell's 'work ethic' ???? He's not playing well. Neither is Gardner. Neither is the o-line. But remember, its his first time in a new offensive system, with receivers he's only had a short time to work with. Come on guys. Calm down. NY is a desperate team, playing at home, and we've made some critical mistakes. Games not over yet. And there's absolutely nothing to indicate the score would be any better with Ramsey in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Tarhog, this is the second game where I've yet to see a washington receiver make a catch IN STRIDE. This is why he is completely ineffective downfield because he throws to where they are and the defensive backs are all there by the time the ball gets there. The giants have figured this out and brought the 8th man into the box. They are also looking for the only play Brunell can make, the screen or short pass to his left and right. You can't blame receivers when this guy can't hit them in stride. BRUNELL is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedwitch Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Originally posted by Tarhog And there's absolutely nothing to indicate the score would be any better with Ramsey in there. But it certainly couldn't be any worse. And if we put Ramsey in, he would get more experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afkidd Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 we got our wish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdnGrey Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Pat better make something of this, even if its one play. Let him throw it deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Brunell has had 3 other surething INT's dropped this game, thank God. They are mostly in the open field where they could be returned for TDs. We're fortunate it's not worse. It's exactly what was anticipated of a Brunell led offense. With Brunell at QB, we might as well have Trung back at TB and Thrash as our #1 WR, because 8 are going to stack the box with safeties drawn up tight, and no veryical looks for Coles. I hate to see anyone hurt, but it may be in our best interests if he has a MILD ding here. I don't want anyone hurtingurt, but the fact that he is may allow us our only chance at getting a legitimate offense on the field. Make the most of it Patrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krayzie Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 yay ramseys in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drex Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 and what happens on Ramsey's first play, he gets sacked and to top it off, Portis fumbles. There is a whole lot more than Mark Brunell playing badly that is causing this game to be in it's current state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Ramsey, in what time he has had, has looked better to me. If he had some more time with the O I think he would be much more comfortable and effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Ramsey looks much better, though thazt INT really hurts. The fact is that the penalty and the dropped pass put us in a bad position in the redzone. Ramsey being of benefit to this team is going to take a little evolution... The opponent will begin to respect his arm, we'll start getting more big play balls, and then as a result Portis (who has been horrid today) will begin to get better holes and less stacked boxes. It's reciprocal. It may take a little time, but it can/will work. Whereas Brunell's 1-dimensional play dooms our offense to stagnation and turnovers before it begins. Ramsey will flourish in this O if given a chance I would bet... and it's our best chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Ramsey's last play shows how silly this argument is. I love the guy. But he's not the saviour. Brunell and Ramsey are both gifted, both flawed. Just like every other QB in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Originally posted by Tarhog Ramsey's last play shows how silly this argument is. I love the guy. But he's not the saviour. Brunell and Ramsey are both gifted, both flawed. Just like every other QB in the league. Completely wrong. We're simpy a completely different, more versatile, vastly more potent team with Ramsey. He makes opposing teams account for all personnel and cover all sectors of the field. His ability to throw all routes, and incorporate the WRs in more than flats/screen, will eventually open up enormous holes for Portis in the future as well. Ramsey is to this team what Rypien was to teams which utilized power running and playaction to a troika of great receivers in the 1990s. He'll lead them as far as they will let him, whereas Brunell's limitations inherently doom the team to 1 dimensional mediocrity. You will see that transpire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txkid Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Ramsey has the arm to stretch the G-Men. Good move now theat they will have to spread out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Originally posted by txkid Ramsey has the arm to stretch the G-Men. Good move now theat they will have to spread out now. Our offense just looks much better with him behind center. However, Tarhog mde a good point that both QBs will show their share of flaws. Ramsey is young and hasn't been given much work at all this year. Bad INT by Ramsey there. However, the offense is much more open with him in there, and it has the ability to move the ball and score in bunches... something no Brunell offense can ever do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drex Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Ramsey looks so much more comfortable that he has thrown two INTS thus far. Lets just leave it at the fact that all of our qb's are not exactly having a good day thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Ramsey has costs us at least 13 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afkidd Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 both of those jokers in the backfield look like crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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