bubba9497 Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 TIKI: 'NO USE' FOR KEYSHAWN http://www.nypost.com/sports/giants/28670.htm September 16, 2004 -- GIANT NOTES The Giants, as usual, play the Cowboys twice this season. Maybe, just maybe, Tiki Barber will ask to play defense in one of those games — just to get a shot at Keyshawn Johnson. The mouthy Cowboys receiver recently ripped Tiki's twin brother, Ronde, for siding with Tampa Bay coach Jon Gruden in last year's Gruden-Johnson feud. Gruden labeled Johnson a distraction and deactivated him late in the season. Ronde Barber, a Pro Bowl cornerback, backed Gruden's decision. Johnson recently lashed out, calling Ronde Barber an "Uncle Tom." "He's trying to be political and kiss Gruden's butt," Johnson said. Tiki Barber yesterday responded that Johnson's remarks were telling: "Keyshawn quit on that team last year; he didn't want to be there, it was obvious. To use the kind of language he uses to describe someone with the dedication of my brother proves to me what kind of character he has. I have no use for people like that." * CB Terry Cousin admitted he filed a complaint with the NFL Players Association because Tom Coughlin fined him $500 for not arriving early enough for a meeting in training camp. Coughlin's so-called "five-minute" rule dictates that players must arrive five minutes before the scheduled starting time. LBs Barrett Green and Carlos Emmons were also fined, but said they did not ask the union to intervene. "We were fined, but I didn't appeal it," said Green, who clearly does not believe the fine was warranted. Carl Francis, the NFLPA director of communications, yesterday said the union filed a grievance on behalf of the entire group. Francis also said Michael Strahan, who was recently fined $1,000 for not arriving "late," had been in contact with the union's legal department but had not yet filed an appeal. * Coughlin all but admitted he messed up by not informing Kurt Warner he was being replaced by Eli Manning late in last Sunday's 31-17 loss in Philly. "Sometimes you don't get the chance to go down the list of protocol," Coughlin said. "I spoke to Kurt this morning and he said, 'don't worry about that.' " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 I can't stand the fact that players like Keyshawn can quit on a team like that but get rewarded for it with another huge contract with another team. I also remember when he was first taken off the active roster by Coach Gruden. The embarrasment on his face as his spoke with the media (and tried to act all cool) was PRICELESS. I only hope to see that look again after the Monday Night game at FedEx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red zone Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Not to beat a dead horse, but calling Ronde an "Uncle Tom" is racist. Did James Brown weigh in on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Exactly, where is the uproar over his comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Keyshawn talking abount anybody's lack of integrity and/or loyalty. It's really something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimFolk Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 It's not racist if he's talking about his own race. But, he said he wanted to have words with Ronde when they next met. He made similar comments about Sapp in the article but doesn't wanna meet up with him I can't for Taylor to knock him out next week.:wewantd: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Shut up, cracker.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Code is being political again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Actually, you can still be a racist even if your comments are directed towards your own race. rac·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rszm) n. 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. 2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race. However, I don't know that Meshawn's dumbass comment would qualify. Retarded and moronic, yes, but racist, probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins11 Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Originally posted by Chachie I also remember when he was first taken off the active roster by Coach Gruden. The embarrasment on his face as his spoke with the media (and tried to act all cool) was PRICELESS. I only hope to see that look again after the Monday Night game at FedEx. "Bill, I will not play for you!" One of 345456 lies he told in that interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimFolk Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Originally posted by codeorama Shut up, cracker.... Were you refering to me? Because I'm african-american not white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahurt002 Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Can we please let this racist crap go. If you are not a minority and have not experience racism please stop commenting on it. I am black so I have experienced racist people and remarks like the n-word or "Uncle Tom" but coming from a black those words don't have the same meaning. SO To make this short, if you have not experienced racism please stop saying what is and what ain't racist because I'm sure you don't or are a little unclear about the situation. P.S Stop with the definition of "racist" because trust me that don't mean SH*T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pr11fan Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Good for Tiki, he and his brother have been class acts all the way back to their college days. Meshawn is quickly turning into the NFL's biggest a-hole, beating even TO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Originally posted by dahurt002 Can we please let this racist crap go. If you are not a minority and have not experience racism please stop commenting on it. I am black so I have experienced racist people and remarks like the n-word or "Uncle Tom" but coming from a black those words don't have the same meaning. SO To make this short, if you have not experienced racism please stop saying what is and what ain't racist because I'm sure you don't or are a little unclear about the situation. P.S Stop with the definition of "racist" because trust me that don't mean SH*T. I experience racism as a caucasion at times. Don't think that it's exclusive to one race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahurt002 Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 So can you tell me what a black man considers racist or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posse81 Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Tiki's comments may prove to be yet ANOTHER distraction for a team that doesn't need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Originally posted by dahurt002 So can you tell me what a black man considers racist or not? nope, can you tell me what a white, green, yellow, or purple man considers racism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahurt002 Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Nope, but this article was about one black man talking about another black. And I Myself can relate, now can you relate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Originally posted by dahurt002 Nope, but this article was about one black man talking about another black. And I Myself can relate, now can you relate? of course, Code said Cracker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahurt002 Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 If you consider Cracker as harsh as the n-word than, I made my point and you can't relate at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Originally posted by dahurt002 If you consider Cracker as harsh as the n-word than, I made my point and you can't relate at all. Little sensitive today, are we? Who said the N-word again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahurt002 Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 No, not sensitive just REAL. p.s I got no harsh feelings we are skins fans, to me it is just a discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Originally posted by dahurt002 No, not sensitive just REAL. p.s I got no harsh feelings we are skins fans, to me it is just a discussion. cool man, we are all brothers and sisters in the B & G! The only colors that matter to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 *group hug* Back to work!! :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Originally posted by Brave *group hug* Back to work!! :laugh: work!?! It's funny, I'm on a conference call right now. Hope they don't ask any questions. Topic at hand= "The Z shift between long term and short term data, while accounting for shift and drift within the process over time" Interesting huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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