inmate running the asylum Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 As a former Christian who is now an agnostic, and who finally got around to doing years of research on my own, I think Mark Twain sums up my sentiment about ALL organized religions. So you know where I will be on Sundays. In front of the TV. "During many ages there were witches. The Bible said so. The Bible commanded that they should not be allowed to live. Therefore the Church, after doing its duty in but a lazy and indolent way for 800 years, gathered up its halters, thumbscrews, and firebrands, and set about its holy work in earnest. She worked hard at it night and day during nine centuries and imprisoned, tortured, hanged, and burned whole hordes and armies of witches, and washed the Christian world clean with their foul blood. Then it was discovered that there was no such thing as witches, and never had been. One doesn't know whether to laugh or to cry. Who discovered that there was no such thing as a witch -- the priest, the parson? No, these never discover anything." -- Mark Twain [1835-1910], American novelist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenF Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I don't see the point of this poll. You just use your Tivo. You may start watching the game 1-hour late after church, but with the Tivo, you can easily skip all the commercials. By the time there are 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter, you've caught up to live. You know the result at the same time as everyone else. A Tivo isn't like a VCR where you have to wait until the recording is done to start watching. You can watch the Redskins game from the beginning while it is still recording, and skip all the commercials until you catch up to live. Four years ago, Tivos were $400 so they were only for hardcore fans. Now they are only $49-$99 after rebate though, so there's no excuse not to have one. The only reason not to get one..is if you want to use the Redskins game as an excuse to miss church... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMONEY Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I go to 7:45am service, so I'm able to do both. Church comes 1st. When its all said and done the Skins don't have a heaven or hell to put you in. There's no excuse not to go to church because most churches have early services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissarmy47 Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Originally posted by inmate running the asylum "During many ages there were witches. The Bible said so. The Bible commanded that they should not be allowed to live. Therefore the Church, after doing its duty in but a lazy and indolent way for 800 years, gathered up its halters, thumbscrews, and firebrands, and set about its holy work in earnest. She worked hard at it night and day during nine centuries and imprisoned, tortured, hanged, and burned whole hordes and armies of witches, and washed the Christian world clean with their foul blood. Then it was discovered that there was no such thing as witches, and never had been. One doesn't know whether to laugh or to cry. Who discovered that there was no such thing as a witch -- the priest, the parson? No, these never discover anything." -- Mark Twain [1835-1910], American novelist God is perfect, God is good... People - not so much. Although this isnt a thread about religon so much as it is about scheduling, I do still feel compelled to respond. PEOPLE are in charge of organized religon - therefore by their nature they are not perfect. Many terrible things have happened in defense of religon, in the quest to spread religon, or have been "inspired" by religon. To this end, I agree with you 100%. But, being a Christian isn't about religon. Its about believing in God - believing that he is the Creator of all things, and that he sent Jesus as the ultimate sacrifice to take the wrath for our sins and allow imperfect, unworthy people into heaven. That's it. Church is a great tool that helps us to further our relationship with God. As a Christian, this is very likely something you'll want to do. Its much more than a social gathering - but by all means attendence is not the most key component to having a personal relationship with God. In short, I don't see anything in your post that proves anything about God's existence. It simply provides evidence that people have used the Bible to try and justify senseless acts of rage towards their fellow man. This is something we already know - just watch the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissarmy47 Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Oh yeah, in addressing the reason the thread was started - I'd say just check around and find a church you like that has an early service. My church has an 8:30 and a 10:30 service. The latter means I would only get to watch 30 minutes of pregame shows, the former means I get close to 3 hours of pregame. For this reason I'll be waking up earlier for the next few months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Speaking as someone who has only been to church twice in his 29 years(once for a wedding, once for a funeral service), I'd have to take football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsknbill Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 sometimes it's good to miss the talkiing heads on the pregame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydean Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 living up here in the midwest, it's a bunch of miles to get to any other towns in the area. i am a lay minister for the lutheran church, and i preach 2-3 sundays at two different churches about an hour to an hour and a half away from my home. my last service will get done about 11:50am, and i have to drive like heck to get home for the noon kickoff. i won't make it obviously, but, i should be home by halftime each sunday that i preach. the washington redskins are one of the most important things in my life, and have been since i was a little kid, but church is more important. football won't help me get into heaven my friends...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan51 Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Originally posted by xe101 I know most of you go through this every year... It's football season and some of us men attend Church... what do you do when football season is in effect? Interesting post... What would Joe Gibbs do if he were a die-hard fan? That would be my answer. (Note: Any of you who have read either of his books, "Fourth and One," or "Racing to Win," would know what decision Joe Gibbs would make.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselfan44 Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 my church is over a little before 12, so I'm good to go. Please don't ask me to make a decision if it cut into the game. My calendar during the season revolves around when the skins play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan51 Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Originally posted by lolhahaha Why would you go to church for Gibbs first game back in 12 years? Because that same Gibbs would tell you to go to church and put God first before a bunch of guys who throw a pigskins up and down a field while hitting each other?? Sounds good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashmowf Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 8:30 service......8:30 service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpillian Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Originally posted by skinsfan51 Interesting post... What would Joe Gibbs do if he were a die-hard fan? That would be my answer. (Note: Any of you who have read either of his books, "Fourth and One," or "Racing to Win," would know what decision Joe Gibbs would make.) Wow -- that almost harks of a marketing idea for Extremeskins merchandise. How's this for a new line: WWJGD -- What Would Joe Gibbs Do? Eh? Catchy.... :logo: Anyways, I for one will be going to church, the early service, so it's really not an issue. But if it was, I'd still go to church, and Tivo Sunday Ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXREDSKINS44 Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I go to church every Sunday Morning and home in time to see kick off!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OURYEAR#56 Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Bless u my child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMac Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 During football season, I am a"Back Row Baptist" who starts saying "Amen" about 11:45. I am always the first one out of the parking lot at noon leaving behind about 5500 church members. Is it Sunday yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Gut Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I don't go to church but do believe in God. God knows I got love for him and in return wants me to be happy... and football Sundays make me happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonsofwashington Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 I thought redskins football was a religion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Originally posted by sonsofwashington I thought redskins football was a religion? It is! They even sing....only one song though...HAIL TO THE REDSKINS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citigent Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 this really is not a choice, god comes first the only difference is when the game is early there wont be any socializing after the service straight home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Going to church has always been part of my pre-game ritual. I think that's why I love 1:00 games, reminds me of when I was a kid and would stomp around the lobby after church as my mother would start jawing with another fellow parishoner. Had myself convinced that if I missed kickoff, we'd loose. After I got my driver's license, I started driving myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pez Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Early service and then GO TO THE GAME!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsknbill Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Is this the same Joe Gibbs that was shown clearly yelling "Jesus Christ!!" on the sidelines last Friday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helluvaskinsfan Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 i worship football on sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helluvaskinsfan Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Originally posted by sonsofwashington I thought redskins football was a religion? it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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