SkinzFan007 Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 10. Jason Taylor 9. Dwight Freeney 8. Lavar Arrington 7. Chris McCallister 6. Brian Urlacher 5. Champ Bailey 4. Ty Law 3. Michael Strahan 2. Chris Jenkins 1. Ray Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panel Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 I say the 10 they chose is pretty much right, but the order isn't. There are no safties on that list, there should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OURYEAR#56 Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 The two guys that are suspect to me is Dwight Freeney, and Urlacher. Lacher had a down year. His play last year proved that Ted Washington and the other guy where more valuable than the Bears thought. Urlacher needs somebody to take up the blockers to be effective. I like Dwight but is he really better than Ed Reed, Brian Dawkins, or Roy Williams? What about Simeon Rice? He's proved to be a serious force off the right side. ESPN needs to do their homework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW31 Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Originally posted by panel I say the 10 they chose is pretty much right, but the order isn't. There are no safties on that list, there should be. I disagree. A safety happens to be my favorite player, but they can't have as big of an impact as every other defensive position. Safeties are capable of making a good defense elite, but not a bad defense good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW31 Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Originally posted by OURYEAR#56 The two guys that are suspect to me is Dwight Freeney, and Urlacher. Lacher had a down year. His play last year proved that Ted Washington and the other guy where more valuable than the Bears thought. Urlacher needs somebody to take up the blockers to be effective. I like Dwight but is he really better than Ed Reed, Brian Dawkins, or Roy Williams? What about Simeon Rice? He's proved to be a serious force off the right side. ESPN needs to do their homework. Well, dwight has had 25 sacks in his first two years, but that doesn't mean he is better than rice. Urlacher had a sub par year, and he should move about two slots back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles-UK Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Kris Jenkins is the best DT in the league but does he have a higher impact than strahan ? particularily since jenkins has better talent around him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Murphaaay Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Originally posted by OURYEAR#56 The two guys that are suspect to me is Dwight Freeney, and Urlacher. Lacher had a down year. His play last year proved that Ted Washington and the other guy where more valuable than the Bears thought. Urlacher needs somebody to take up the blockers to be effective. I like Dwight but is he really better than Ed Reed, Brian Dawkins, or Roy Williams? What about Simeon Rice? He's proved to be a serious force off the right side. ESPN needs to do their homework. It's debatable whether or not Freeney is better than those you've mentioned. Freeney does get constant pressure of the edge in the run and passing game. He also causes a lot of fumbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Made Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Originally posted by Eagles-UK Kris Jenkins is the best DT in the league but does he have a higher impact than strahan ? In a word, Yes. Did you watch the Panthers last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 its pretty accurate, but yeh, Bryan Dawkins and Roy Williams shoulda been there, as well as Sean Taylor for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsarethebest Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 bailey should be more like no. 10, not no. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfara Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 CHARLES WOODSEN Are you kidding me. How can this guy not be mentioned in the same class as ty law and chris mccallister. he is every bit the shutdown corner those guys are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW31 Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Originally posted by mcfara CHARLES WOODSEN Are you kidding me. How can this guy not be mentioned in the same class as ty law and chris mccallister. he is every bit the shutdown corner those guys are not last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Originally posted by skinsarethebest bailey should be more like no. 10, not no. 5 Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neophyte Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 I have got a real problem leaving Derek Brooks off this list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani2 Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 next year Sean Taylor will be added to that list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmoreravens4life Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 its pretty accurate, but yeh, Bryan Dawkins and Roy Williams shoulda been there, as well as Sean Taylor for next year.Umm, Ed Reed?? Can you redskins fans be any more ignorant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 I was thrown off by Chris instead of Kris. He's definitely the best DT in the league. Although, mine would look a little something like this: 1.Ray Lewis 2.Kris Jenkins 3.Mike Strahan 4.Jason Taylor 5.Chris McAlister 6.Champ Bailey 7.Donnie Edwards 8.Ty Law 9.Simeon Rice 10.LaVar Arrington It's really tough, I thought I would have a safety on there in either Reed or Dawkins but after you make the list you realize that there isn't really room for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 10. Jason Taylor-OK, I GUESS 9. Dwight Freeney-AGREE 8. Lavar Arrington-WILL MOVE UP THIS YEAR 7. Chris McCallister-BEAST 6. Brian Urlacher-OVERATED 5. Champ Bailey-HYPED BECAUSE OF TRADE 4. Ty Law-LAST YEAR I AGREE 3. Michael Strahan-SEEN HIS BEST DAYS 2. Chris Jenkins-BEAST 1. Ray Lewis-BEAST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Originally posted by Bmoreravens4life its pretty accurate, but yeh, Bryan Dawkins and Roy Williams shoulda been there, as well as Sean Taylor for next year.Umm, Ed Reed?? Can you redskins fans be any more ignorant? Umm, can you be any more on the wrong board? Suggest Ed if you want but there's no reason for insults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parcells-Wallows Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 strahan is not number 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiskin Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 What about Richard Seymour fo the Pats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Two other players that deserve honorable mention are Richard Seymour of the Patriots and Trevor Pryce of the Broncos. Seymour has anchored the Pats defense since being drafted and Pryce has made the pro bowl at both DE and DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Williams Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Originally posted by Neophyte I have got a real problem leaving Derek Brooks off this list... he's #2 next to ray period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TODD Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Take off LaVar and put Derrick Brooks. Period. Defensive Player of the year and does everything; pass coverage, pass rush, forces turnovers. Brian Dawkins should be on there for sure, he's a true enforcer. And I'd also put Peppers instead of Freeney, Peppers is a liability on every single play and you have to keep him in mind for every play call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Made Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Originally posted by semiskin What about Richard Seymour fo the Pats? Can't believe he's not on the list either.... or ANYBODY's list. Guy was top 5 defensive player last year imo. The more and more I think about it this list is a joke. Julian Peterson, Marcus Stroud anybody? Here goes my list 1. Ray Lewis 2. Kris Jenkins 3. Michael Strahan 4. Richard Seymour 5. Chris McAlister 6. Marcus Stroud 7. Ty Law 8. LaVar Arrington 9. Champ Bailey 10. Julian Peterson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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