Age Perspective: Beloit College's Mindset List

[China]

In a recent thread it became apparent that there is quite a generational gap between some of the posters on this site. For us older posters, here is a reference put out by Beloit College for professors to understand the mindset of students entering as freshmen for the class of 2007 (I have posted a link to previous lists below):

BELOIT COLLEGE RELEASES THE MINDSET LIST FOR THE CLASS OF 2007

Beloit, Wis.—Across the nation, students are entering colleges and universities with their own perspectives on the times in which they live. Most of them were born in 1985.

For the sixth year, Beloit College has developed and distributed to the faculty and staff the “Beloit College Mindset List.” According to co-editor Tom McBride, Keefer Professor of the Humanities at the Wisconsin liberal arts college, the list helps to slow the rapid onset of “hardening of the references,” in the classroom.

McBride notes that “These entering students were born into a world that had developed a screening test for AIDS and where managed healthcare was gaining its first foothold. The Middle East had replaced the USSR and Eastern Europe as our greatest challenge to security. It is a generation which believes in technological innovations and solutions and where digital devices, PIN numbers and calling cards are an integral part of their lives. Despite the fears associated with AIDS and divorce, we should remember that this is a generation that has grown up in a largely successful, prosperous society . . . I believe they are fascinated and vexed by the results of the world they have made,” says Prof. McBride.

“The Mindset List, among other things, is a reminder of that world—a world that makes education a tougher yet more fascinating job than ever. In saying hello to the new generation, which they labor mightily to understand, but with mixed results, they are saying good-bye to themselves. There is something of wicked and addictive interest in that. I myself am part of that very generation. There is, for me, a bittersweet pleasure in knowing that Cherry Cokes didn’t always come in cans and there are millions of first-year students who will never know how delicious it was when it didn’t.”

In April of the year the class of 2007 was born, Joseph Lelyveld complained in The New York Times that “conversations with some young people around the country about the war in Vietnam will find their impressions of it to be remarkably dim.” High school juniors and seniors, could not identify Ho Chi Minh, Robert McNamara or the Chicago Seven.

In The New Yorker that year, it was noted that “Each generation brings a clean slate into the world. But the world itself is not a clean slate, and what happened before needs to be learned and remembered.”

With the help of hundreds of people who have made contributions and after months of preparation, Beloit College is now pleased to present the Mindset List for the entering class.

THE BELOIT COLLEGE MINDSET LIST FOR THE CLASS OF 2007®

Most students entering college this fall were born in 1985:

1. Ricky Nelson, Richard Burton, Samantha Smith, Laura Ashley, Orson Welles, Karen Ann Quinlin, Benigno Aquino, and the U.S. Football League have always been dead.

2. They are not familiar with the source of that “Giant Sucking Sound.”

3. Iraq has always been a problem.

4. “Ctrl + Alt + Del” is as basic as “ABC.”

5. Paul Newman has always made salad dressing.

6. Pete Rose has always been a gambler.

7. Bert and Ernie are old enough to be their parents.

8. An automatic is a weapon, not a transmission.

9. Russian leaders have always looked like leaders everyplace else.

10. The snail darter has never been endangered.

11. There has always been a screening test for AIDS.

12. Gas has always been unleaded.

13. They never heard Howard Cosell call a game on ABC.

14. The United States has always had a Poet Laureate.

15. Garrison Keillor has always been live on public radio and Lawrence Welk has always been dead on public television.

16. Their families drove SUVs without “being fuelish.”

17. There has always been some association between fried eggs and your brain.

18. They would never leave their calling card on someone’s desk.

19. They have never been able to find the “return” key.

20. Computers have always fit in their backpacks.

21. Datsuns have never been made.

22. They have never gotten excited over a telegram, a long distance call, or a fax.

23. The Osmonds are just talk show hosts.

24. Undergraduate college athletes have always been a part of the NBA and NFL draft.

25. They have always “grazed” for food.

26. Three-point shots from “downtown” have always been a part of basketball.

27. Test tube babies are now having their own babies.

28. Stores have always had scanners at the checkout.

29. The Army has always driven Humvees.

30. Adam and PC Junior computers had vanished from the market before this generation went online.

31. The Statue of Liberty has always had a gleaming torch.

32. They have always had a PIN number.

33. Banana Republic has always been a store, not a puppet government in Latin America.

34. Car detailing has always been available.

35. Directory assistance has never been free.

36. The Jaycees have always welcomed women as members.

37. There has always been Lean Cuisine.

38. They have always been able to fly Virgin Atlantic.

39. There have never been dress codes in restaurants.

40. Doctors have always had to deal with “reasonable and customary fees” and patients have always had controls placed on the number of days they could stay in a hospital.

41. They have always been able to make photocopies at home.

42. Michael Eisner has always been in charge of Disney.

43. They have always been able to make phone calls from planes.

44. Yuppies are almost as old as hippies.

45. Rupert Murdoch has always been an American citizen.

46. Strawberry Fields has always been in New York.

47. Rock and Roll has always been a force for social good.

48. Killer bees have always been swarming in the U.S.

49. They have never seen a First Lady in a fur coat.

50. Don Imus has always been offending someone in his national audience.

In all fairness it should be understood that students entering college this fall do have a few items on their own lists that will separate them from many of their mentors:

1. For many of them today, it’s all about the “bling, bling.”

2. They know who the “Heroes in a half shell” are.

3. Peeps are not a candy, they are your friends.

4. They have been “dissing”and “burning” things all their lives.

5. They can expect to get a ticket for “ricing out their wheels.”

6. They knew how to pop a Popple and trade a Pog.

7. They can still sing the rap chorus to the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air and the theme song from Duck Tales.

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For your reference, you can find the previous ones here. FYI below is the first one they did for the class of 2002. I like the last one.

BELOIT COLLEGE'S CLASS OF 2002 "MINDSET LIST"

1. The people starting college this fall across the nation were born in 1980.

2. They have no meaningful recollection of the Reagan era, and did not know he had ever been shot.

3. They were prepubescent when the Persian Gulf War was waged.

4. Black Monday 1987 is as significant to them as the Great Depression.

5. There has only been one Pope. They can only remember one other president.

6. They were 11 when the Soviet Union broke apart, and do not remember the Cold War.

7. They have never feared a nuclear war. "The Day After" is a pill to them—not a movie.

8. They are too young to remember the Space Shuttle Challenger blowing up.

9. Their lifetime has always included AIDS.

10. They never had a polio shot, and likely, do not know what it is.

11. Bottle caps have not always been screw off, but have always been plastic. They have no idea what a pull top can looks like.

12. Atari pre-dates them, as do vinyl albums.

13. The expression "you sound like a broken record" means nothing to them.

14. They have never owned a record player.

15. They have likely never played Pac Man, and have never heard of "Pong."

16. Star Wars looks very fake to them, and the special effects are pathetic.

17. There have always been red M&M's, and blue ones are not new. What do you mean there used to be beige ones?

18. They may never have heard of an 8-track, and chances are they've never heard or seen one.

19. The compact disc was introduced when they were one year old.

20. As far as they know, stamps have always cost about 32 cents.

21. They have always had an answering machine.

22. Most have never seen a TV set with only 13 channels, nor have they seen a black & white TV.

23. They have always had cable.

24. There have always been VCR's, but they have no idea what Beta is.

25. They cannot fathom what it was like not having a remote control.

26. They were born the year Walkmen were introduced by Sony.

27. Roller-skating has always meant in-line for them.

28. "The Tonight Show" has always been with Jay Leno.

29. They have no idea when or why Jordache jeans were cool.

30. Popcorn has always been cooked in the microwave.

31. They have never seen Larry Bird play, and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is a football player.

32. They never took a swim and thought about Jaws.

33. The Vietnam War is as ancient history to them as WWI and WWII or even the Civil War.

34. They have no idea that Americans were ever held hostage in Iran.

35. They can't imagine what hard contact lenses are.

36. They don't know who Mork was, or where he was from.

37. They never heard the terms "Where's the Beef?", "I'd walk a mile for a Camel" or "De plane, de plane!"

38. They do not care who shot J.R. and have no idea who J.R. is.

39. The Titanic was found? I thought we always knew where it was.

40. Michael Jackson has always been white.

41. Kansas, Boston, Chicago, America, and Alabama are all places—not music groups.

42. McDonalds never came in Styrofoam containers.

43. There has always been MTV, and it has always included non-musical shows.

[Henry]

The 2002 list makes me feel old.

[Riggo-toni]

Thanx 4 making me f#$%g depressed! :cuss:

[China]

Originally posted by Henry

The 2002 list makes me feel old.

Don't feel bad, you're not even as old as I am.

[afparent]

51. The Redskins weren't always this bad

[Mr. S]

heh, interesting they made these lists. many accusations are pretty true, some I feel are too extreme and stereotypical, which I dont like. Well, im gonna hate 5 years from now seeing this list about the next entering college class and hate it as well.

[rfdc]

We heading to the :toilet: of history (get your souls ready!)