SmootDawg21 Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Armstead gone I don't know about this move. I liked his play last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyalligator Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 How much cap space does this save? too bad Lenny the Hut didn't get this story.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Holy cr@p thats a bad move :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 for Holdman? Sure. But, I still don't like the lack of loyalty to a player who gave his all and played his guts out for us. The best LB here during his tenure here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 I think Art's right about Glazer being fed the inside info. He's been breaking everything lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Lets get Clemons or Clifton Smith some PT.....remember Williams wants "team speed"......so I can see them going younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 That sucks I liked his heart. I guess Antonio Pierce gets his shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINZ_DOMIN8 Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Why don't we just draft a whole new roster while we're at it???? Trade Ramsey. Get picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cskin Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 I like this move, and I'm an Armstead fan and supporter. With Trotter and Arrington in the fold, it makes sense to bring in a rookie or young FA who's potential is rising than Armstead's is falling. More so, I hope Arrington is moved to Weakside and a replacement is found for the strongside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Greg Blache did coach Holdman for a few years, and he has played quite well in the past. And as for the Arrington move, I most definitely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posse81 Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 I like Holdman but really liked Armstead. He has another solid year left in him and I don't think he would have been a huge hit on the cap. I don't like the move. The talk of bringing in Holdman or someone else from another team is pretty indicative of what the new staff thinks of Peirce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTaylor42 Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 I'm sorry to hear this. I thought Jesse was a class act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenster95 Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Cutting him saves a little over $1M on our cap. The Armstead deal was one of the best that Vinny came up with. Cap friendly and very low numbers for a LB whose play clearly exceeded the contract he signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 I like Armstead too, but you can't really complain about the move. Armstead is at the end of his career, and was scheduled to make 1.5 million dollars this year. It is the last year of his contract, so there's no SB acceleration. Basically, everyone on the defensive side of the ball is dirt cheap right now except for: Lavar Trotter Wynn Upshaw and Bowen have mid-level contracts, although in retrospect Upshaw seems to have been a waste of $$$. But if people wonder why we still seem to have cap space, that's why. And Trotter and Wynn will most likely be cut after next season, or forced to take pay cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieInferior Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 It saves $1.9 mill, but I do not like the lack of loyalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Poo. I really liked Armstead. Granted his play has declined, but I would still have preferred to keep a cheap veteran over an expensive underachiever in Trotter. BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yank Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Originally posted by CTaylor42 I'm sorry to hear this. I thought Jesse was a class act. Class act without par. However, his play had deteriorated to subpar. Lots of tackles but for lots of yards gained. I've been saying he needs to go for quite some time. Guess Gibbs and Williams don't seem to agree that our D is stocked with "talent" as others have argued. I'll continue to go with their judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinzFan007 Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Two words: Clifton Smith. I know he was a middle linebacker at Syracuse but I think he will make the transition well. He has good size and wieght ( 6'3" 251 lbs.) as well as good speed (ranging from 4.65-4.75). His senior year at Syracuse he had 137 tackles in 12 games. He's a tough tackler and has a lot of intelligence for the game. I've liked him from day one and was real glad that we picked him up. I hope he gets some PT this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J33Edwards Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 I really wasn't expecting that...I thought that Gibbs and staff would like him alot at least for one more year. I'm not going to argue though...this staff has a plan, we won't be able to get a grasp of it until the season is much closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSkins Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 I hope Armstead lands on his feet somewhere. Maybe the Patriots or Falcons will give him a nice home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTerps2002 Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Jonathan Vilma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsLegacy44 Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 We let go of the wrong LB ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Complete Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 I liked Armstead as well, he will be missed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGibbs Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Originally posted by SkinzFan007 Two words: Clifton Smith. I know he was a middle linebacker at Syracuse but I think he will make the transition well. He has good size and wieght ( 6'3" 251 lbs.) as well as good speed (ranging from 4.65-4.75). His senior year at Syracuse he had 137 tackles in 12 games. He's a tough tackler and has a lot of intelligence for the game. I've liked him from day one and was real glad that we picked him up. I hope he gets some PT this year. No doubt. I have been screaming for this guy since training camp. Everytime he was in the game he was around the ball. he will be a playmaker. But, I do prefer him at MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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