Jay Master Jay Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 I think Clarett is going to get his block knocked off and hurt in the league this year. He was hurt for a few games a few years ago. He'll get slammed fast in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Wilbon can stay the most retarded things at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnyg Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 The guy is a third round pick at best. He's not big and he's not that fast. He is injury prone and he even has character issues. No chance the Redskins waste an early pick, especially now Gibbs is running the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helluvaskinsfan Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 that wilbon sounds as stupid as claurett.i dont see gibbs messing with that dude.but if he did he knows more than me. but that kid will not be ready this year.i guess he could be better than canidate.they need to get him off the roster. gibbs knows a good back when he sees one . lhe used to keep them if you look back.im not worried anymore . and as much as i cant wait for the season,every day gives gibbs time to get us right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Jesus Christ guys, get your sh*t right. First of all, he's 21 (or almost 21, they said 21 at his press conference though), 6'0" tall, and 230 pounds. It's not like he's some 5'9", 190 pound, 19 year old. He's as old as Portis was coming in. Even if those figures for his size are inflated, he's still no smaller than 5'11", 205 pounds. He carried a team to the national championship (even though Miami got shafted, but I'm a Gator, so screw 'em!) as a freshman. We should take him in the 2nd. There is a reason everyone has him as the 4th RB, and that's because he's damn good. If anyone can keep him in line it's Gibbs. He has much more upside than Greg Jones. I love how people criticize Clarett for being not durable. He may be smaller, but his injuries are nothing compared to Jones's. Mo didn't have a blown-out knee. Sure, he could boom or bust, but who isn't that the case for (other than KWII)? It could be a mistake, but it could also be the steal of the century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayumnuttinleft Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Wilbon is a Fat (_0_) jerk, maybe the two of them can use each other, Clarett needs to workout since he's been out of football for a year and a half, and that looks like the last time Wilbon worked out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwash Posted February 7, 2004 Author Share Posted February 7, 2004 Noboby is looking at the bigger picture here. You're all talking about what is he going to do for us right now. He's young and he has infinate potential. Most of you hate him just becasue he's from Ohio State. That's a pretty ridiculous reason to dislike a player. Frankly there isn't a better RB in the draft. Most of you are judging him from what you see in highlight reels. I watch him play every week. He's the real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwash Posted February 7, 2004 Author Share Posted February 7, 2004 Originally posted by dayumnuttinleft Wilbon is a Fat (_0_) jerk, maybe the two of them can use each other, Clarett needs to workout since he's been out of football for a year and a half, and that looks like the last time Wilbon worked out... Tha maturity of some of the people in this forum amazes me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Damn right Hogwash. For his potential alone he is worth it. Duce or Dillon could carry the load until he is ready. And like I said before, dammit, there are guys younger than him in the draft. Hell, I think Suggs from B-More is STILL younger than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnyg Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Excerpt from a Don Banks article on CNNSI "He's a little guy,'' Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said Thursday morning. "I don't know how fast he is, but I do know he's a little guy. I've never even seen him on tape, but I just know that there haven't been too many little guys who made it big in the NFL at running back. You could probably count them on two hands. Remember now, Ron Dayne ran for a lot of yards in college.'' How little? Well, Ohio State listed Clarett as 6 feet, 230 pounds, but those numbers are considered laughable by NFL types, who think he's more like 5-9 ½ or 5-10, in the range of 210-215 pounds -- making him a slightly larger version of two-time Buckeyes Heisman Trophy winner Archie Griffin, who was a mediocre pro at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 OK, well, if he's 5-10, 210 lbs, then he's a stout MF. Anything over 5-9 and 210 should be OK to take a beating, given that they're tough enough. Barry was smaller than that. Clarett is talented. That's all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwash Posted February 7, 2004 Author Share Posted February 7, 2004 I'm not saying he's a Barry Sanders, Barry was the best ever IMO. But he's powerful, fast, agile, and he never quits on a play. He's clutch too. Look at the National Championship game in 2003, he stripped Sean Taylor after Taylor picked off a pass and was on his way to the house. Mo save that game for OSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Even Madder Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 I think we can all agree that at very least, Mr Clarett has serious judgement problems. He's also been out of football for a year. Those two factors alone will push his value down. I'd be thrilled if the Skins took him in the later rounds (4-7) but not before. You're supposed to get starters in rounds 1-3, and he's not ready to start. Let someone else get him in the weight room and in counseling for a year or two. Actually, I wouldn't be thrilled if the Skins took him. He's just not the kind of guy I want to cheer for. He's the perfect Cowboy. We don't need any more Zellners or Kenyatta Jones or Chamberlains or Russells. And we don't need Clarett unless he's somehow magically matured in the past year -- which is extremely doubtful. I'm not arguing he doesn't have talent -- I just don't think he's Redskins material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwash Posted February 7, 2004 Author Share Posted February 7, 2004 I don't know what you mean by Redskins material. THe only troubles he's had are collegiate eliligibity issuses. He's never been connected with drugs, or anything. I wonder if there was this much backlash over Barry Sanders challangeing the NFL to come out early... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenaciousd Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Originally posted by donnyg Excerpt from a Don Banks article on CNNSI "He's a little guy,'' Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said Thursday morning. "I don't know how fast he is, but I do know he's a little guy. I've never even seen him on tape, but I just know that there haven't been too many little guys who made it big in the NFL at running back. You could probably count them on two hands. Remember now, Ron Dayne ran for a lot of yards in college.'' How little? Well, Ohio State listed Clarett as 6 feet, 230 pounds, but those numbers are considered laughable by NFL types, who think he's more like 5-9 ½ or 5-10, in the range of 210-215 pounds I don't really have an opinion on Clarett at this point, but the size issue that seems to be coming up is a little bit funny to me. 5-10, 215 is not cut out for the NFL? The most prolific NFL rusher of all time is 5-10 220. That also happens to be the exact size and weight of Marvin's new RB, Rudi. There's tons of other reasons to question this guy. Size really isn't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 I just love how some people on this board are ALWAYS wanting to swing for the fences with questionable attitude free agents and guys like Clarett with a mountain of baggage Every Lawrence Phillips or Darrell Russell is a potential Hall of Famer that the Skins could bring in and have dominate in the NFL for us :laugh: Every supplemental draft eligible player or guy that gets booted from his college program is misunderstood or got shafted by The Man............... What is wrong with selecting talented football players that DON'T have these problems? Guys that aren't 40 pounds overweight. Guys that haven't been suspended for drug abuse. Guys that weren't arrested for grand theft auto, guys that were able to finish 3 or 4 years in college without having to tear the guts out of their own programs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwash Posted February 7, 2004 Author Share Posted February 7, 2004 What Baggage? I don't understand where you're comming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnyg Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Originally posted by tenaciousd I don't really have an opinion on Clarett at this point, but the size issue that seems to be coming up is a little bit funny to me. 5-10, 215 is not cut out for the NFL? The most prolific NFL rusher of all time is 5-10 220. That also happens to be the exact size and weight of Marvin's new RB, Rudi. There's tons of other reasons to question this guy. Size really isn't one of them. I think people question his durability and he is undersized compared to the average NFL back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnacpa Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 NFL Access said tonight that Clarett hasn't had a full season without injury since his freshman year in HS. Enough said, ignore the kid and go after proven men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingchris626 Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 I sure hope we don't draft clarett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaganaut Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Clarett is not the type of player Gibbs wants. Earnest Byner, Gerald Riggs, Timmy Smith... these are the types of players who thrive in a Gibbs system not punk kids who are lightning rods. Give Betts a chance will ya Joe? Spurrier ruined Stephen Davis' averages too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panel Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 We can afford to draft Clarett in the third round, and keep him as a project player, and keep him around to see if he can do anything. I say it is worth a 3rd rounder for the potential that could arise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallyG3 Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Clarett is a major risk anywhere higher than the 4th round. I guarantee Wilbon would not be saying this if Clarett were white. His tenacity to fight racism often clouds his judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miragv Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 hey i am new to the site. but wilbon is not an idiot, he just says stupid things sometimes to be funny. we should never even think about draftin clarett unless somehow he drops to the seventh round. he isnt worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogwash Posted February 7, 2004 Author Share Posted February 7, 2004 Originally posted by WallyG3Slice Clarett is a major risk anywhere higher than the 4th round. I guarantee Wilbon would not be saying this if Clarett were white. His tenacity to fight racism often clouds his judgement. That's the most idiotic thing i've heard in a while. I can tell that 90% of you have never seen him play. I don't know where you get off calling him a punk kid either? Betts couldn't wear Clarett's jock... Timmy Smith, Earnest Byner.... okay, Clarett hasn't set foot on an NFL field yet. How do you know that he's not at that Caliber or better? None of you have made a valid point yet. The only thing I keep hearing is 'Punk Kid', 'I don't like him cause he's black' And you WallyGSlice u just made a point for Clarett's case. If he were white the wouldn't be a big contraversy over him. Andy Katzemoyer had the same issuse in college and he was a first round pick without hesitation... If you guys are gonna make an argument, you better come up with something better than that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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