Kilmer17 Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 The past week has brought out a ton of speculation that Bush will replace Cheney on the ticket. Anyone have any thoughts about it? I'd love to see Guiliani on the ticket, mostly because his views are very close to mine. But I can see Bush adding McCain because he can appeal to the centrist voters while at the same time keeping the base happy. If Kerry wins the nod (And Im still not convinced he will). Replacing Cheney will certainly help Bush's reelect chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 I think he'd be VERY smart to add McCain, but I'd consider it highly unlikely. There's a lot of bad blood between them, and I don't think McCain cares enough about personal advancement to accept it even if offered. Would be a stroke of genius though. Guiliani is not impossible, and as I predicted in an earlier thread, Condi Rice or Colin Powell are still strong possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted February 2, 2004 Author Share Posted February 2, 2004 McCain has been one of his biggest campaigners this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 I would LOVE to see Bush/Powell, but Powell doesn't want to do it because of his family. I still think Powell would be a great President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 He has? All I've ever heard is that McCain is not. If McCain joined up, then I would actually be more likely to vote for Bush just because it gives McCain a good chance in 4 years. If Kerry is the Dems man...and he picks a guy like Edwards to run with him. The President would be wise to Replace Cheney (maybe just making him part of his staff). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 What about a Bush/Rice presidency? Bush wants to push her to be president one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted February 2, 2004 Author Share Posted February 2, 2004 She's still young politically. I think the GOP wants her to run for something else first (Gov of CA ie). McCain has been a campaign beast. He led the troups in Iowa and then again in NH. He's been the keynote speaker at almost every major rally. I will almost GUARENTEE Powell will step down after the election. He has said repeatedly he has no ambition to be in ANY elected office. Who can blame the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 I still can't see McCain joining the President. I think Powell steps down also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted February 2, 2004 Author Share Posted February 2, 2004 If McCain thinks Bush can win re-elect with him on the ticket, I think he will because it almost GUARENTEES him in 08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 Originally posted by Kilmer17 If McCain thinks Bush can win re-elect with him on the ticket, I think he will because it almost GUARENTEES him in 08. good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 I see what you're saying about 08...because I agree. I think McCain is about more than that though. If he thinks it means he'll have to put some of his own beliefs on policy on the backburner for 4 years, I think he'd pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 I would love to see a Bush/Rice ticket as well, but it will never happen. By many accounts, Rice is pro-choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted February 2, 2004 Author Share Posted February 2, 2004 So is Rudy. I dont think that would that big of a deal. If anything, it might help him some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 So is Rudy. I dont think that would that big of a deal. If anything, it might help him some. It might attract independents, but it will turn off a great deal of people in his base. I love Rudy, but he is a liberal republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted February 2, 2004 Author Share Posted February 2, 2004 Yes he is. His base wont go anywhere. They may stop with $$$$ But he has sooooo much already it might not matter. It's a trade off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 I like Rudy.....but think he should tackle being in the Senate 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 Yes he is. His base wont go anywhere. They may stop with $$$$ But he has sooooo much already it might not matter. It's a trade off. Respectfully disagree. If Bush thinks his base will blindly follow him... well frankly he is in for a rude awakening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted February 2, 2004 Author Share Posted February 2, 2004 He'd never win the GOP nomination if he was a Senator first. He'd have a liberal voting record that the Primary system would crucify. I'd see him running for Governor though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted February 2, 2004 Author Share Posted February 2, 2004 Where will they go? Stay home and let the Dems win? doubtful. Unless a 3rd party candidate comes up on his right, he'll get the same block votes. The far right makes this threat every four years "We'll go fishing on election day". And it never happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 Where will they go? Stay home and let the Dems win? doubtful. Unless a 3rd party candidate comes up on his right, he'll get the same block votes. They will stay home. I also think there is real potential for a 3rd party candidate to cause some serious problems for Bush. The base let Clinton win. The far right makes this threat every four years "We'll go fishing on election day". And it never happens. See his father Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted February 2, 2004 Author Share Posted February 2, 2004 Perot took votes from the center, not the far right. Bush 41s base did not change. He lost the centrist voters to Perot. And Clinton kept them in 96. They do not stay home. They will be there again. The 3rd part candidate is interesting. Who do you think it will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 The 3rd part candidate is interesting. Who do you think it will be? I have no idea. Suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted February 2, 2004 Author Share Posted February 2, 2004 Yes, Id love to see Nader run again, and then have Dean throw his hat in the ring as an independant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 I'd like that idea ! Then she can run with Guiliani against the Hillary ticket in ’08. I don’t think she needs to have a lot of political experience under her belt to operate as the VP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 Cheney isn't going anywhere, and Bush would never appoint a VP who could upstage him. Bush picked Cheney for a reason - he wants a Bush political dynasty. He wants to see his brother succeed him in the White House. That's why he picked a guy whose health is too fragile to allow him to run after W leaves office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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