Leonard Washington Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 what's wrong with the guy doing it for money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauss Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Money is always an issue. However, there is no way that the money is the driving force here. Gibbs isn't the kind of guy to be driven just by financial gain. He has too much personal integrity and pride to not give it is all for reasons other than money.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauss Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Money is always an issue. However, there is no way that the money is the driving force here. Gibbs isn't the kind of guy to be driven just by financial gain. He has too much personal integrity and pride to not give it is all for reasons other than money.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggins44 Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Of course the money was a factor, but also read he wanted his grand children to see what he did before NASCAR. Gibbs is a competitor and you know seeing Parcells and Vermiel back got him interested in coaching again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggins44 Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Of course the money was a factor, but also read he wanted his grand children to see what he did before NASCAR. Gibbs is a competitor and you know seeing Parcells and Vermiel back got him interested in coaching again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XNOUGHT Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Coach is a hard and painful process, and the way Gibbs coaches is even more demanding and harder then it is for other coaches. I can see how it would really take the right price for him to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XNOUGHT Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Coach is a hard and painful process, and the way Gibbs coaches is even more demanding and harder then it is for other coaches. I can see how it would really take the right price for him to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNumberOne Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 This is a good thread on many levels. 1) I see all the euphoria on the site today... well founded of course, but Gibbs isn't god. His being a Christian or having good character doesn't really have anything to do with him getting paid well to do a job. His character may come into question only if he seems lazy doing the job, something that no one should question. 2) Anything Jimmy Johnson says should be thrown into the toilet where it belongs. Just my opinion. 3) If Riggins said what has been claimed here, then once again, #1 applies. 4) What we know about Gibbs is that he is a proven winner, and he has proven it with talent that has not been thought of as "the best in the league". He understands facets of the game that many of our previous coaches have not understood as well- in particular, I would say, Spurrier and Turner. I don't think either of those coaches understood the psychological part of the game, something that Gibbs does understand. I think we have a lot of reason to be confident, and I didn't feel I would have much reason to be confident following the way we faced our division rivals at the end of the year. If he's coaching for money, that's fine, as long as he's giving it his all. As some of my friends who favor opposing teams have said today- we should be fairly confident that coaching isn't the issue if we struggle this year (assuming Gibbs is trying- and if he wasn't really trying, I'm not sure he would want personnel control, which is what I had heard...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNumberOne Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 This is a good thread on many levels. 1) I see all the euphoria on the site today... well founded of course, but Gibbs isn't god. His being a Christian or having good character doesn't really have anything to do with him getting paid well to do a job. His character may come into question only if he seems lazy doing the job, something that no one should question. 2) Anything Jimmy Johnson says should be thrown into the toilet where it belongs. Just my opinion. 3) If Riggins said what has been claimed here, then once again, #1 applies. 4) What we know about Gibbs is that he is a proven winner, and he has proven it with talent that has not been thought of as "the best in the league". He understands facets of the game that many of our previous coaches have not understood as well- in particular, I would say, Spurrier and Turner. I don't think either of those coaches understood the psychological part of the game, something that Gibbs does understand. I think we have a lot of reason to be confident, and I didn't feel I would have much reason to be confident following the way we faced our division rivals at the end of the year. If he's coaching for money, that's fine, as long as he's giving it his all. As some of my friends who favor opposing teams have said today- we should be fairly confident that coaching isn't the issue if we struggle this year (assuming Gibbs is trying- and if he wasn't really trying, I'm not sure he would want personnel control, which is what I had heard...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC4 Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Once he sells off his shares of the Falcons he will have that money back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC4 Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Once he sells off his shares of the Falcons he will have that money back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNumberOne Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Originally posted by riggins44 Of course the money was a factor, but also read he wanted his grand children to see what he did before NASCAR. Gibbs is a competitor and you know seeing Parcells and Vermiel back got him interested in coaching again. I agree with this, and would also like to add that Gibbs did not come back to any team but the Redskins. Do you think he wasn't / would not have been offered anything lucrative from other teams, i.e. the Falcons where he already had some amount of ownership? I think he seems loyal, and I also think that like other coaches of his caliber, he probably would not come back if he really thought he would be unsuccessful in the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNumberOne Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Originally posted by riggins44 Of course the money was a factor, but also read he wanted his grand children to see what he did before NASCAR. Gibbs is a competitor and you know seeing Parcells and Vermiel back got him interested in coaching again. I agree with this, and would also like to add that Gibbs did not come back to any team but the Redskins. Do you think he wasn't / would not have been offered anything lucrative from other teams, i.e. the Falcons where he already had some amount of ownership? I think he seems loyal, and I also think that like other coaches of his caliber, he probably would not come back if he really thought he would be unsuccessful in the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Originally posted by TC4 Once he sells off his shares of the Falcons he will have that money back His shares of the Falcons were a gift from Arthur Blank, so I don't think he will get anything from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Originally posted by TC4 Once he sells off his shares of the Falcons he will have that money back His shares of the Falcons were a gift from Arthur Blank, so I don't think he will get anything from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstahl Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Money, of course, he got paid well (in then year comparisons) previously and if someone wanted me to come in and fix a problem franchise and have me spend all my time working on it (which he will do), I would expect to be compensated. He seems to be getting the deal Steve got, sounds fair to me, not like he said I need 8 mil a year or something, pay me what you paid the last guy and give me control and we're in business... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstahl Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Money, of course, he got paid well (in then year comparisons) previously and if someone wanted me to come in and fix a problem franchise and have me spend all my time working on it (which he will do), I would expect to be compensated. He seems to be getting the deal Steve got, sounds fair to me, not like he said I need 8 mil a year or something, pay me what you paid the last guy and give me control and we're in business... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sick Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Originally posted by aREDSKIN $25 million + $40 million 5% of ownership @800 million= $65 million- a ton of money that anyone would coach for IMO. These are approximate figures that have been recently reported. The Redskins are worth over a BILLION now. Forgot where I saw it, but I am about 100% sure. We are one of the top three, if not THE top, valued sports franchise in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sick Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Originally posted by aREDSKIN $25 million + $40 million 5% of ownership @800 million= $65 million- a ton of money that anyone would coach for IMO. These are approximate figures that have been recently reported. The Redskins are worth over a BILLION now. Forgot where I saw it, but I am about 100% sure. We are one of the top three, if not THE top, valued sports franchise in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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