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[Conn]

2 hours ago, MassSkinsFan said:

I wish I’d known that when I was a kid. I was a C but also LS on my teams in HS/college. I must have done a few hundred snaps in games (at least) and there was only 1 bad one. Once you know how to do it, you’re pretty much locked in. As long as the ball is always delivered to the hands of the holder or punter there’s no reason to tinker with your technique. 
 

It’s been painful watching this ****show, and it’s been going on all season. It just became super-apparent this week. 
 

That worm-burner snap should never, ever happen in a game, at practice, wherever. Never. But, here we are…

 

If only I were half my age, I’d ask to try out. 🤣

 

PS - old guy question: do any NFL starting centers double as LS? I ask because snapping in shotgun is basically the same as a FG. It’s a common skill. Adjusting to snapping punts isn’t a big stretch. So why do teams have LS specialists?

Teams have LS specialists because they have to spend WAY too much time just practicing with the punter and kicker to have time for anything else. Just constant repetition. You couldn’t have a guy getting offensive reps (or even a backup getting scout team or mental reps) also spend all that time with the kicking units. Not enough time in the week, no way to physically be in both places and both sets of meeting rooms. And those backup OL are worth much more as depth on offense than they are at LS if you have a viable guy already doing it (which almost every single team does).
 

And there are things you need out of a Center that you’d never need out of a LS so wasting good developmental OL on LS practice isn’t really a good use of resources either considering they rarely get hurt and often play for over a decade. 

Edited December 19, 2023 by Conn

[Ghost of]

1 hour ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

 

 

Ron thought he was doing him a kindness by keeping him around, what he probably needed was to be released.  Long Snappers pop up all the time, he would have gotten another opportunity, and maybe just a change of scenery, he works out the yips.

 

Ron screwed this pooch so many ways it's just unfathomable.  

As I said before, he was drafted because he was one of the best in the country while at Michigan. I cannot for the life of me understand why he was doing another technique unless something about what he did before was being exploited when he was picking up a block?

 

A lot of people assume (especially because of Snyder) that the very best leaders delegate and are not expert in every aspect of their organization. While I don't expect the CEO of GM to know the best way to make a particular weld on a particular part, I do expect that a football coach look at an aspect of the football field performance and know enough to intervene if the people to whom he delegates are failing.  

 

Often on a board such as this, you will have people defending a decision based on the fact that I cannot give you (offhand, anyway) the best way to defeat a specific defense, and therefore any opinion is invalid. But that isn't really true, and you find this even in highly technical fields. "Expert" people get things wrong, or make decisions for nonrational reasons that the "rational" orientation of someone wanting, say, a successful long snap, cannot fathom or agree with. And very often, the lay person is correct. Explicit technical knowledge is not always a substitute for other forms of knowledge, intuited by the sort of years-long piecing together of the "picture" of a football game and successful football (or whatever sport) that happens from dedicated fans of the sport.

 

Why was Ron a bad coach? You might find that answer both more simple and more complex than you'd like. The answer is not in "personality" or "management style," though some aspect of those domains may bear upon the final results.

 

Is good organizational decision making more the result of the interaction of extremely gifted individual talents and the emergent properties of an organization (meaning a Sean McVay would have failed here)? Perhaps. What is clear is that Ron is not (as currently constituted) a talented football head coach or general manager or football personnel guy.

[RVAskins]

4 hours ago, Koolblue13 said:

I've said it before, but the entire kicking game is dumb. Why can't a blocking TE be a LS? Joey Slye has never practiced a punt? What the hell do these guys do all day at practice?

Well, I know it's no longer ping pong.

[Koolblue13]

40 minutes ago, RVAskins said:

Well, I know it's no longer ping pong.

Corn hole now. Tress Way is the best too.

[RVAskins]

Tucker Addington, you're up next. Don't screw it up. And for Gods sake, don't make adjustments to your technique.

[Conn]

11 minutes ago, RVAskins said:

Tucker Addington, you're up next. Don't screw it up. And for Gods sake, don't make adjustments to your technique.

Ehh he can screw it up for a few more weeks 

[RVAskins]

12 minutes ago, Conn said:

Ehh he can screw it up for a few more weeks 

I just don't want to see Tress get hurt again. Let the rest of the team continue their screw it up ways.