orlskinsfan Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 im in agreeance with jbooma on this..the cowboys are in the position they are in now because of their defense...the are essentially doing what baltimore did in their superbowl year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted December 22, 2003 Author Share Posted December 22, 2003 Originally posted by GGB81 Their defense, save Terrence Neuman, is essentially the same as last year, as is the offense. I think Parcells has more to do with the 5-6 additional victories than any personnel changes. BINGO, thier defense is the same. They have the same players who were decent the year before. Parcells kept the same DC and they are better because they are the same. They understand the system more and Williams has taken over as the leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Originally posted by codeorama We are just not a very talented team. Face it, that's the facts. On offense, we have a very bright future, the average age is pretty young. But with No D line, how can you expect the defense to be any good. Spurrier is a football coach, not a magician. Code, buddy join the dark side, A real mcoach would have been a magician and "willed" his players to become better. If he had any "real" scheme or talent he would have found ways to make the sorry DL improve.... just more excuses Fire Spurrier now, screw logic it's all about the W's baby!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB81 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Originally posted by bubba9497 the traitor Code, buddy join the dark side, A real mcoach would have been a magician and "willed" his players to become better. If he had any "real" scheme or talent he would have found ways to make the sorry DL improve.... just more excuses Fire Spurrier now, screw logic it's all about the W's baby!! You are a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatFischer37 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 What does SOS have in common with the following Lou Holtz, Rich Brooks, Dennis Erickson, Bud Wilkinson, John McKay, Barry Switzer ...College Football Geniuses who for their own lives couldnt adjust to the pro game. Jimmy Johnson is the exception, not the rule...Just because you can coach at one level doesnt extrapolate to the next level Otherwise, Bob Wade would still be coaching the Maryland Terrapin b-ball program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Get off S Double's nutz. He is at a news conference and some of you fools expect him to publicly say so and so sucked today? Its never gonna happen and any coach that does that isnt long for that team. Da Tuna. His first copule of seasons when he first started out as coach were far worse than S Double. The defense was there and the offense was mediocre and now using smoke and mirrors and no they are not going to the superbowl Jimmy Johnson yeah his first copule of years sucked but fortunately for him there was an idiot knon as the Vikings that supplied him with enough draft picks and players to make it to the playoffs alot quicker than expected. And of course his team was built pre salary cap and thus there was more patience. A top QB in this system well manning and McNair and even brunell would have this offense scoring close to 30 a game yet with a kid off the street we managed 2 and it should have been a lot more with two accurate throws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marhobo2 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 He better have one hell of a supporting cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBlue Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Originally posted by babka What does SOS have in common with the following Lou Holtz, Rich Brooks, Dennis Erickson, Bud Wilkinson, John McKay, Barry Switzer ...College Football Geniuses who for their own lives couldnt adjust to the pro game. Jimmy Johnson is the exception, not the rule...Just because you can coach at one level doesnt extrapolate to the next level Otherwise, Bob Wade would still be coaching the Maryland Terrapin b-ball program None of those you listed were, in fact, college football genuises save Wilkinson, imo. Holtz was a solid college coach who had an excellent recruiting staff, Erickson ran an outlaw program with players who were, quite literally, above the law, Switzer was the best recruiter in the land and a good wishbone coach, and do we even need to address McKay and Brooks? SOS was, in fact, a college football genius. He revolutionized the SEC at a time when the standard defense was the 4-4-3, Spurrier put up numbers, points and wins that had never been seen before. However, as the league adjusted to his style in the late 90s, he was clearly not as successful as in his earlier years. Although he still had a great deal of success, he was not always able to adjust his scheme against the top flight defenses such as FSU or Tennessee. Despite that, he did adapt and succeed to some extent in 2001 with a good QB and running game after foibles in 1999 and 2000. I think his adjustment to the pro game can be similar, although I certainly don't have blind absolute faith in his ability to adjust. That said, the Skins have had a TON of breaks go against them in '03 and dealt with a very tough schedule. With a healthy Ramsey, a 3rd place schedule and with games against the NFC and AFC North as opposed to the AFC East and NFC South, I wouldn't bet against the Skins making the playoffs next year assuming, of course, some modicum of improvement is made on the DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 ND, I use to believe all the common sense, and logic. The old me would stand behind you 100%, and appauld your post. but logic = excuses for that loser Spurrier, and great coach would have made pro-bowler with all this talent. No more lame excuses like injuries, tough schedule, lack of pass rush.... even if they all are true.... it doesn't matter it's all about the W's baby!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridironmike Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Originally posted by Yusuf06 Actually, the problem with SOS is that he doesn't know NFL football. ....... he had little in the way of NFL level knowlege to fall back on .......... http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/SpurSt00.htm +---------------------------------------+-----------------+ | Passing | Rushing | +----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+ | Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD | +----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+ | 1967 sfo | 14 | 23 50 46.0 211 4.2 0 7 | 5 18 0 | | 1968 sfo | 14 | 0 0 0.0 0 0.0 0 0 | 1 -15 0 | | 1969 sfo | 6 | 81 146 55.5 926 6.3 5 11 | 5 49 0 | | 1970 sfo | 14 | 3 4 75.0 49 12.2 1 0 | 2 -18 0 | | 1971 sfo | 6 | 1 4 25.0 46 11.5 0 0 | 1 2 0 | | 1972 sfo | 13 | 147 269 54.6 1983 7.4 18 16 | 11 51 0 | | 1973 sfo | 11 | 83 157 52.9 882 5.6 4 7 | 9 32 2 | | 1974 sfo | 3 | 1 3 33.3 2 0.7 0 0 | 0 0 0 | | 1975 sfo | 11 | 102 207 49.3 1151 5.6 5 7 | 15 91 0 | | 1976 tam | 14 | 156 311 50.2 1628 5.2 7 12 | 12 48 0 | +----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+ | TOTAL | 106 | 597 1151 51.9 6878 6.0 40 60 | 61 258 2 | +----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+Punting yardage Here are his punting numbers for San Francisco...I Couldn't find his career totals here at work. No Name PUNTS YARDS AVG LONG 1. Davis, Tommy (1959-69) 511 22,841 44.7 82 2. Wittum, Tom (1973-77) 380 15,494 40.8 68 3. Ruanger, Max (1984-88) 281 11,370 40.5 62 4. Spurrier, Steve (1967-75) 230 8,882 38.6 61 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridironmike Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Originally posted by babka What does SOS have in common with the following Lou Holtz, Rich Brooks, Dennis Erickson, Bud Wilkinson, John McKay, Barry Switzer ...College Football Geniuses who for their own lives couldnt adjust to the pro game. It pains me to admit it, and I don't even believe he had alot to do with it, but Switzer won a Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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