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With the addition of Wynn, and with samuels restructuring to bring in semple, to me, these moves indicate a strong possibility of going for a wr at 18. <br />spurrier is going to want the best receiving corps in the league, or at least in the NFC east. right now, even with green and anthony, we're still pretty thin. and, mark my words, westbrook is gone. so, with the talent at wr in this year's draft, spurrier is going to be drooling over getting one of the top four guys: stallworth, lelie, gaffney caldwell, and one of them will be there too.<br />as long as harrington is gone, which he will be, the skins will go wr, rather than reaching for a DE, DT, or OG in the first b/c that will be getting the best athlete available.

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I dont think we are thin at Wide Receiver.<br /><br />We have second year guys who had to work against Darrell Green, Champ and Smoot for a full season.<br /><br />Even if we say no to Westy, Gardner should have a better second year J Green will be a slot receiver and D Mac,Skaggs and Derrius Thompson have size and speed to start on the other side.<br /><br />My fear is reaching for a Gaffney when there is a Stallworth or Ashlie Lee available but I still want to see every Line spot addressed first with you being served.<br /><br />If a Henderson falls to 18 you have to go DT/DE instead of WR

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I think the Skins will look hard at receivers. Don't forget to add Josh Reed to that list. While his measurables aren't as impressive as that bunch, he might end up being the best player. When commenting about Stallworth's impressive performance at Tennesee's Pro Day, he said that Stallworth's probably right up there with Josh Reed and his two guys at Florida. I find it significant that Reed was mentioned. He WAS the best receiver in the SEC last season. His strenths as a receiver match up perfectly with Spurrier's offensive philosphy, too. Many experts might say drafting Reed at #18 is too high, but I think he's the receiver who's the most ready to produce at the next level.<br /><br />But I think the Skins will look hard at the defensive end position and maybe even at a safety like Ed Reed. Reed is exactly the kind of safety Lewis likes to have in his defense.<br /><br />With the signing of Renaldo Wynn, I think defensive tackle has become a lower priority, but if one of the top 4 guys drops, they will have to strongly consider him, as well.

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Well, I hope they let the negotiations team know that Westbrook won't be back so they can stop talking to him and trying to resign him.<br /><br />I am with NavyDave. The line has not been addressed on either side to any extent. I think we will go after OLine because the best athlete on the board at the time will be either the #1 or #2 ranked guard and that is better to get then the #5 or #6 ranked DT.<br /><br />I am of course assuming that the general Media's rankings of the players is the same as those that SS, JM, DS, VC and ML have ranked in that position.<br /><br />Who knows. Thats what makes this year so much fun, we have NO idea what we're doing.

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Considering Marvin Lewis' track record with scouting great defensive talent, I think it would probably bode well for our long term future if we go for defense in the draft. <br />Bottom line is, we ought to go for the biggest impact player available w/ our #18, whether it's a DT or WR. Henderson would be tough to pass up, but if by some miracle Stallworth is still around...<br />Any chance Josh Reed would last until the 2nd round? I think we have lots of excellent #2 receivers (Green, Gardner), but no real #1 threat (unless Champ gets to play offense <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> ).

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I wouldn’t be so sure. In the past I have heard Steve speak very highly of Gaffney. It may just be a former coach speaking highly of a former player. My bet is that’s it’s more than that. <br /><br />It has been my belief for a while that he will be our first pick in the draft. I still believe that. I’m not sure if that’s the way I’d like to go but if I were a betting man……

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If any of the top 4 defensive tackles is available at 18, I want him, but I don't want the skins to reach for the kid from Notre Dame, who is rated 5th best, with significant drop off from the others. <br /><br />Gaffney could actually be a better player than either Stallworth or Lelie (the kid from Hawaii, is that how you spell his name?) He certainly makes acrobatic catches.

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We already have better WR corps than 2 of the other 3 teams in the NFC east (Philly, NY) & Dallas' depends on Galloway's health. Even then ... Rocket? Never liked him. In order of preference, I'd take these WRs in the first:<br /><br />1. Stallworth - super fast & great vertical.<br />2. Reed - gets open and great run after catch.<br />3. Lelie - tall & very fast.<br />4. Gaffney - great hands, precise patterns.<br /><br />I might flip-flop 3 & 4 b/c of the level of competition Gaffney faced & the fact that he understands the system quite well.

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Donte Stallworth might just be the Mike Mamula of WRs. Yes, he's posted excellent times in workouts. But he was the second option on the UT offense after Kelly Washington, who emerged as the stud WR. I'm not so sure that Stallworth stepped up his performance in big games, either.<br /><br /> I don't have any real sense of how our WR corps stacks up vs. other NFC East teams. In fact, we might be starting two entirely new guys. How on earth can I say we're set. If we end up starting Jacquez Green and Derrious Thompson, it's sort of hard to say how good they'll be. <br /><br /> If we're not going to use Gardner, I think we ought to trade him while he has value. We hung on to Westbrook to the point where he had no value and we'll end up with nothing for our #4 pick in the '96 draft. <br /><br /> Bite the bullet and offer him to San Diego for their 2nd rounder and a later pick (maybe a 6th). <br /><br /> There will be at least 4-5 excellent WRs dropping into the second round of this draft.

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I think it is shaping up for the Redskins to take a WR or DL in the first round of the draft.<br /><br />in regards to comments here about Gaffney not being as good a pick as Stallworth or Lelie.....I have to ask the question of why is that?<br /><br />Everyone seems to think that other former Gators such as Green, Anthony and perhaps Wuerffel will be more successful here than elsewhere knowing Spurrier's system.<br /><br />Well, why not Gaffney?<br /><br />He may be the most heralded of the WR's that Spurrier had at Florida. So by that argument he sould be able to make the MOST difference in this system for 2002 with the Redskins.<br /><br />And since so many think this system requires a certain kind of ballplayer, Gaffney may be a better choice for THIS team than a Stallworth or Lelie despite their better 40 times. <img border="0" title="" alt="[smile]" src="smile.gif" />

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I don't have any real sense of how our WR corps stacks up vs. other NFC East teams.<br /> In fact, we might be starting two entirely new guys. How on earth can I say we're set. If we end up starting Jacquez Green and Derrious Thompson, it's sort of hard to say how good they'll be. <br />If we're not going to use Gardner, I think we ought to trade him while he has value. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Er....come again?<br />You don't have any real sense of how our WRs stack up? Just look around!<br />I mean, philly's #1 was our #3! That's how our recievers stack up compared to the rest of the NFC East.<br />Where do you get it from that we don't want Gardner??<br />No one said anything about Gardner not starting! (as our #1 at that)<br />Trade Gardner???? That's almost as bad as the people who were saying trade Davis.<br />Not going to happen.

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the truth is we don't know what is going to happen at wide receiver.<br /><br />it appears to me that right now Gardner and Green are the two starters, but that may change if Gardner doesn't take to the new system or the team drafts Gaffney or Caldwell.<br /><br />the other receivers Anthony, Thompson, Skaggs, McCants and Lockett are question marks. Each has some strengths but none has proven to have a marked upside to this point.<br /><br />Anthony has had one good season in the NFL with 51 catches.<br /><br />The rest, including Lockett, have never had more than 36 catches.<br /><br />I don't think Skaggs and McCants have ANY regular season catches.<br /><br />So, there is room for change and movement here.<br /><br />I would say, though, that there appears to be a bit more depth than in previous years where we were struggling just to put a fifth name out there on the roster at WR.<br /><br />Spurrier probably has learned some things about the WR's from the minicamp and those observations will no doubt go into what we do in April.<br /><br />If Gaffney is taken I think you will see Gardner, Green and Gaffney in a rotation with perhaps Anthony and one of the other younger players.<br /><br />But that is just a guess.<br /><br />Spurrier's statement that the previous staff liked a different kind of receiver that was taller and more physical, may not bode well for McCants, Thompson and Skaggs who are still quite raw.<br /><br />Gardner because of the investment in him will get every change to fit into the new scheme.<br /><br />The others are all expendable at this point.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by bulldog:<br /><strong>I think it is shaping up for the Redskins to take a WR or DL in the first round of the draft.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I totally agree; OG, especially Gurode, is also in the mix but I think #18 is too high for a guard. We can fill that position on our team fairly easily and cheaply with a FA vet signing like Ray Brown. <br /><br />If our favorite WR or DT is gone by #18, I hope we trade down 6-8 spots and then look at the best available betwenn the DT's, WR's and Gurode left on the board.

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BTW- we all seem to forget the scenario that has the square peg Gardner being traded away on draft day for a first rounder. That gets more and more intriguing for me, as that may offer us some flexibility, particularly with regards to Harrington if he drops. Otherwise, assuming that trade, we might end up with a quality DT and OG or WR in the first round.

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well, the Chargers are short some bodies at WR at the moment. Tim Dwight is never going to be more than a decoy at WR because of his speed, but he can't run routes or catch the ball in traffic to save his life. <img border="0" alt="[laugh]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh.gif" />

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