Penalties against our defense and penalties not being called for our defense

[Dro89]

No, both calls were not correct you clown...so watch your tone bro. The same rule should apply to both plays, despite Santana ending up on the ground. Go re-watch the play in slow-motion. He was not going to the ground on his own in order to make the catch, he made the catch and was brought to the ground/tackled IN THE END ZONE. If D. Hall wasn't allowed to fight for the ball and the play ended as soon as Evans secured the ball and got both feet down, then the same logic should have been applied to the Santana catch. Are you guys serious? You really don't even know what you're looking at?

As soon as Santana's hands are on the ball and he brings it into his body, it stops moving and is secure. He is not going to the ground on his own and gets both feet down in the end zone with possession. Using the Evans TD as precedent, Santana should have been awarded a TD at that moment - end of play. He takes two steps and the defender makes contact and begins to try and tackle him as he takes his third step...after already gaining possession in the end zone. It is the EXACT SAME PLAY as the Evans TD, only D. Hall didn't try to tackle Evans in the end zone after he already had possession, he fought for the ball while running. Only AFTER Santana made the catch and AFTER the defender caused Moss to go to the ground was the ball ripped out; he wasn't going down on his own, he didn't lose the ball on his own, the ball never touched the ground, and only began to move after he started sliding on the ground and the defender dislodged it. Would you argue that it was incomplete if Santana made a wide-open catch in the end zone and a defender came out of nowhere and crushed him, took him to the ground and stripped the ball? No - because that's ridiculous - and the play is theoretically over as soon as the receiver gets possession and gets both feet down, as evidenced by the Evans TD. Well, that is exactly what happened with Santana, it just happened a little faster and in front of inconsistent referees. Going to the ground is only a factor if the player is doing so to facilitate making the catch, not as a result of a defender trying to save face after getting beat for a TD. Or would you argue that Evans' was incomplete if D. Hall brought him to the ground as the ball came out?

Again, both Evans and Moss lost possession due to the defender fighting for the ball AFTER they had initially gained possession in the end zone with both feet down. The ONLY difference is Santana was brought down by the defender and then stripped of the ball, while Evans was stripped of the ball without being brought down.

watch my tone? did you just threaten me via internet? not to mention no one agrees with you and everyone knows that both calls were correct.. yet you still keep fighting.. let it go.. dont keep fighting to try to be right. BRO

[NoCalMike]

Someone explain to me the holding penalty that was called against the O-lineman in the season opener against the Cowboys that ended the game....(The one where Orakpo was hooked around the neck) and the same type of things that seem to be happening to Kerrigan this preseason?

I swear I have seen him hooked around the neck on a ton of replays, yet no call. Is it just because holding happens THAT MUCH and it just gets missed or not called, or because Kerrigan is a rookie and hasn't built up a reputation as a beast yet so no one is looking out? Or is there a genuine difference that makes it not a hold?

---------- Post added August-26th-2011 at 05:46 PM ----------

This is why I don't like Reed starting. He is too darn slow to keep up and has to hold not to get burned like a cheap cigar!

---------- Post added August-26th-2011 at 12:23 PM ----------

There was alot of missed calls, however the silver lining is STILL our starters BEAT thier starters in just about every facet. It's pretty bad when your starters have to go against our second and third string scrubs to make a touchdown. So all in all we won the game even though the score board doesn't show that. The fact is this year will again be tough because Orakpo will be held and there will be no calls, that is when Orakpo needs to slam a ref, I know suspension and fine, so maybe HB Blades then can do it for him, God knows he is awful! Also Fox should have had Rice on his TD run he over pursued. Fletcher would have NOT missed that tackle! HTTR!!!

Forget Fletcher, Watch the replay, Ray Rice should have been stopped at the line of scrimmage, and WOULD HAVE BEEN had Laron Landry been playing, instead Reed Daughty flailed at Rice and fell down instead of making the tackle. It was embarrassing.

[dcdiscokid]

I felt like the whole game the ravens were getting calls and we were not. The ravens were holding the d line on almost every play, and their corners were bumping or receivers way outside of 5 yards, no calls. We sneeze in their direction and its a penalty. Guess this is what happens when one team is a perennial playoff team and the other is a cellar dweller.