skinnyles Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 In trying to get a feel for what this board thinks in one post..... AND not being as savvy as my ES brothers and sisters.... how does everyone think the coaches, so far, compare to the Gibbs 2 hirings. As I recall that was supposed to be "THE Dream Coaching Team". My feelings, now, are that the Gibbs 2 coaches were selections based on JG's desires and previous relations. The Shanny / Allen coaches seem to be more of "Best Coach Available" and to me that is going to be fantastic. Thoughts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx491 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I feel like these coaches are MUCH more following an offensive and defensive vision than those coaches did. Plus there is a general consensus that change is needed and fans are restless, which wasn't the feeling before the Gibbs hire imo. I think this coaching team fits a new philosophy, and is setting the franchise up for long term success (Kyle Shanahan probably taking over in several years and most likely having an established offensive philosophy already when he does). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojobo Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Although we haven't seen this team put together one game yet this feels more like Shanahan/Allen bringing in people to fit their plan. Gibbs 2.0 felt more like they were bringing in people to take over what they specialize in and didn't really follow the same gameplan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever21 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Shanahan seems to be ready to do things a little differently. I think he's learned some lessons and is ready to make adjustments. Gibbs did things a little too much like he did the first time and the game had changed so much so it didn't work as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Maybe this would of been better served after the full staff is assembled; but we're all excited by the new regime, so to date, I'm exceptionally happy with all the moves. Coach Mike said he was gona' build a top class staff out of the very best men he could, and he sure as heck has started out that way. I love the idea of getting top class, experienced 34 versed guys in on the D to impart their knowledge to the players. Everything is about change, and BOY have we needed that for WAY too long now. I'll revisit this thread when he has his full staff in place to compare the two skinnyles my good man. . Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Gibbs became a leader and did not come back as a X and Os coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaga Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 To me, Joe Gibbs was courted back by Snyder. Gibbs was happy not doing the NFL thing for years and had to be persuaded back. Shanahan, on the other hand, was fired after a few mediocre seasons and instead of taking the time off and doing other things, he studied the NFL. He studied coaches, schemes, players, trends, etc. The Bruce Allen / Mike Shanahan combination seems a lot more hungry for wins than Gibbs 2 and better prepared. At least that is the way I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 What is there to compare? Shannahan and his new coaches currently on the staff have just as many superbowl wins (zero) as Gibbs 2.0 during the same time frame. So lets see where they are in the same amount of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjstalcup Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I am very excited to see Shanny do his thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhearn Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I would also like to see what we do with our scouting department but it would appear its staying intact for now..would be nice to grab someone from a team thats running the 3-4 as theyd have a good idea as to the type of player they want. er sorry though thats a bit off topic, I like the choices we have made so far..though very upset we won't be getting the OL coaches we wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Gibbs' coaches were out of the NFL too long and were too old... Don Breaux? No doubt they brought experience, but perhaps he should have gotten Al Saunders from the beginning... Actually the biggest mistake I feel Joe made was getting Brunell instead of Kurt Warner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx491 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I get the feeling we might see another blockbuster trade or two in the mold of Portis/Bailey. That's one of the first things Gibbs did, acquire Portis and trade one of our stud defensive players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homercles82 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I would also like to see what we do with our scouting department but it would appear its staying intact for now..would be nice to grab someone from a team thats running the 3-4 as theyd have a good idea as to the type of player they want.er sorry though thats a bit off topic, I like the choices we have made so far..though very upset we won't be getting the OL coaches we wanted. They just did with the hire of LB coach from the Steelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Gibbs' coaches were out of the NFL too long and were too old... Don Breaux? No doubt they brought experience, but perhaps he should have gotten Al Saunders from the beginning...Actually the biggest mistake I feel Joe made was getting Brunell instead of Kurt Warner. Gibbs staff was a mixed bag. As far as the coordinators/associate head coaches like Williams and Saunders I feel they were as good or better than Shanny Jr./Haslett. Saunders never had success here but had a great track record coming in. Shanny Jr. seems to have the same reputation as an offensive genius, hopefully he will have more success. Williams I think was a better defensive mind than Haslett but again that remains to be seen how he fits with our defense. The assistants were not great under Gibbs 2.0. Stan Hixon is an enemy of most of ES, Don Breaux didn't seem to have a real role, but Buges has been a fan favorite. It's really hard to tell untill Shanahan/Allen complete the coaching staff. The main difference I see is Cerratto being replaced by Allen. This will likely be the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhearn Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 They just did with the hire of LB coach from the Steelers. well i meant more along the lines of college scouting or so, i mean im sure he has an eye for talent but someone who can put some players of a draft board with confidence and say they will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadirtbags Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 This group which is being built.seems like the real deal (dream team) it seems Shanny has a philosophy here and he has a mission...see...Gibbs and company were a great hire as well...but...I think Gibbs thought ok...gonna grab the old crew and make a second run at this thing..but im not completely sold Gibbs had it in his heart from day one to take the bull by the horns...I think Danny had a lot to do with Gibbs coming back...Shanny on the other hand...he wants this...in a real nasty ugly way (at least that is my impression) A HOF coach getting fired...I'm hoping Denver will regret this big time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 I think it is too early to see if what Shanny is doing is going to work the way we think it is going to work. This thread would be good bump after the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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