mdbeachy Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Is it possible that this teams attitude stems from the way training camp is being run? Letting the high priced players take it easy, only playing them the equivalent of 3 quarters in the preseason. They aren't working as hard as they used to in the 70's and 80's. I realize that you don't want your players getting hurt, but if they are in playing condition they are less likely to get hurt anyhow. They have gotten used to having everything handed to them on a silver platter and not having to work for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CounterTrey Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 yeah and lets keep playing music so that our players can get jiggy with it instead of actually concentrating while practicing. Its no wonder when a huge call like 4 and 1 and we get blown up its because we listening and rocking out to music thanks to Zorn! I swear I like Zorn last year but he is not an NFl head coach. The only way we are going to get better is little Danny boy swallows some of his ego and fires Cerrato and then hires a real GM. Then he takes a back seat and lets the GM do all the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigantor Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I wonder if they still play music during practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herb mul-key Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 we suck doh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyomingRedskin Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I believe they still do play music in practice. I thought I saw a reference to it in an article in the past week. Until the team starts producing though, they should change the music. How about Kenny G, John Denver, Backstreet Boys, Phantom of the Opera, etc, etc..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I don't think it matters nearly as much as people think it does. When you lose everything gets overblown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halofan21 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I don't think it matters nearly as much as people think it does. When you lose everything gets overblown. I have to disagree here training camp's can set to mold and culture of a team just look at how Mike singletary is getting the 49ers to play as a unit by installing that hill. I dare someone to name me one contending team that runs a camp cupcake? like we do or like how the browns used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysForward Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Why do you think the players want Zorn to stay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy165 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Gibbs runs players too hard. People complain we practice too hard. Zorn gives injury prone players a break. People still complain. Threads like this make it hard to support the team. /thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailSkins83 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Rumor has it that for a warm up, Sellers Listens to Paddy-cake Paddy-cake, and thats also how he run blocks...... makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmySmith Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Wait until December. Gibbs knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I don't know, being hard on the players seems to have drastically improved the Saints defense ran by Williams. Maybe our offense needs the same kind of kick in the ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsCrushCowboys Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 at the end of the day the players need to respect the team, owner, coach and the system. Grown millionaires are not going to be impacted either way...I would like to see a stretching, conditioning coach push in the off season. We always seem to get a lot of hamstrings and other stuff..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoBoCTiberius Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Honestly, it's possible. When a team is this bad, a lot of things have to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirClintonPortis Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Last year, they had a tough training camp and they started off well, but OL age and injury caught up to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdbeachy Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share Posted October 27, 2009 I think it's like B Mitch says, it all comes down to attitude. You start molding the team in camp. When you have players who think they are running the camp saying they are to hurt (don't want to practice) you end up with problems. Prove to me you want to play or sit on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Marty had the right idea. We should be holding camp in Carlisle, much of it should be closed to the public, the players should all bunk together especially the vets with younger players, they should not be allowed to go out on the town after practice or use computers/play video games. They should be doing team building stuff like talking to each other, playing poker, having dinner together. They should be allowed to have their families visit them for a day on the weekend but thats about it. It may sound stupid and sound like BS to a lot of people, but I think it would help do two things. It would strengthen the bond between teammates here, and if there are bad apples that don't belong with us, they would surely be found and dealt with in this situation. If Portis doesn't want to practice, if some other player doesn't want to sleep in a college dorm room with a teammate, if some player refuses to give up the comforts and distractions of home they can all get out of town. Those types of players may be good players. Portis was a talented back, but you can't have a team where one player defies the rules and has an attitude and expect to have some sort of cohesion. We don't play together, and people wonder why. It comes down to talent, coaching, etc. sure but one piece of the puzzle is this team mentality. Training camp in comfy Ashburn where the vets go home at night to sleep in their nice squishy bed with their wives creates a team of individuals that are showing up to collect their pay checks and nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Ah yes. The annual "training camp thread". We're right on schedule. It was "too soft" this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy165 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Ah yes. The annual "training camp thread". We're right on schedule. It was "too soft" this year. my point exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPORTISFAN999 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I believe they still do play music in practice. I thought I saw a reference to it in an article in the past week. Until the team starts producing though, they should change the music.How about Kenny G, John Denver, Backstreet Boys, Phantom of the Opera, etc, etc..... how about blasting the eagles fight song in the locker room to get them motivated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcarey032 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Who knows if that is the real reason. I think that training camp was soft because some of the players probably went to Dan Snyder and cried about it. Zorn wants to be tough, but you can tell he is doing what the people in charge want him to do and say. They don't want him to bench Portis, so he doesn't. He has to comply with taking away playcalling, so he does. He is doing what he is told even though he knows that is not what is best for this team. This team needs a swift kick in the but and stop being coddled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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