BigDFan5 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 I have never seen so many people agree on one thing my entire time here on extreme (5 years this month) :laugh: I think you got your answer funny I was thinking the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoth Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ware, no contest, even factoring in scheme differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooley4President Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ware definitely, and he's probably only going to get better whereas Carter might be past his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ware is equal to Carter. If you throw a couple second rounders in with Carter. Is the OP a Dallas troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joehardee Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ware , he reminds me of another 94 who used to wreak havok on opponents offenses.:logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy8467 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ware is equal to Carter. If you throw a couple second rounders in with Carter. Is the OP a Dallas troll? No, the OP is not a troll. tr1 insisted in an ATN thread that Carter was a better all around player than Ware, and when he was called on it he told the OP to take it to the stadium to see what everyone had to say. Needless to say it seems like tr1 is on his own here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ware is a Hybrid LB/DE player. Carter is strictly pass-rush and alittle less than average in run support. It obvious that Ware is better all around, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyJ Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ware is a better player, but they do play different positions. I don't know that Ware would be all that much better if he were a DE in a 4-3. Yeah, he's quicker, I just don't know that he would hold up well against the run. Personally, I think he's overrated. Samuels pretty much controls him. You can bet your bottom dollar that Zorn would love to see Ware try to cover Cooley one-on-one. Someone started calling him a monster and it's just become accepted fact. I still don't see it in games with any consistency. He makes some plays, no doubt, but I can't recall seeing a game where he just completely dominated the other team. So, yeah, in pure terms, Ware is a more stellar performer. All other things being equal, you'd take Ware w/o much thought (scheme differences aside). I sure as heck wouldn't pay Ware what the Cowboys are going to pay him, though. He ain't worth it. Carter's price/performance will suit me just fine, in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanindallas88 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Look i love all the skins players...but living in Dallas and having watched him one could make the argument that D-Ware is the best OLB in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinO Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ware is a better player, but they do play different positions. I don't know that Ware would be all that much better if he were a DE in a 4-3. Yeah, he's quicker, I just don't know that he would hold up well against the run.Personally, I think he's overrated. Samuels pretty much controls him. You can bet your bottom dollar that Zorn would love to see Ware try to cover Cooley one-on-one. Someone started calling him a monster and it's just become accepted fact. I still don't see it in games with any consistency. He makes some plays, no doubt, but I can't recall seeing a game where he just completely dominated the other team. So, yeah, in pure terms, Ware is a more stellar performer. All other things being equal, you'd take Ware w/o much thought (scheme differences aside). I sure as heck wouldn't pay Ware what the Cowboys are going to pay him, though. He ain't worth it. Carter's price/performance will suit me just fine, in that case. I totally agree. The Cowboys system is designed for the OLB a.k.a Ware to roam free and "make plays". He is overrated just as Shawne Merriman is. When San Diego put Shawne Merriman into a more traditional linebacking assignment, his numbers came way down. Ware can not play in any system, and thus, is not truly a beast. Oh yeah, and Merriman>>>>>>>>>Ware! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyinO Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Look i love all the skins players...but living in Dallas and having watched him one could make the argument that D-Ware is the best OLB in the league :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
909997 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 not even close andre carter by far............... (Joking ofcourse ware by mile and a half) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 By pure talent, I think you have to go with Ware on this one. Carter is a hell of an athlete, and has been the first consistent pass rushing threat on the line we've had in some time. But Ware so far has shown that he excels as a pass rusher in a 3-4 defense. Carter didn't make such a great transition into a 3-4 OLB, which is why San Fran let him go in the first place. The thing that I wonder though is whether Ware would have the ability to make the transition to an every down 4-3 DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamyesme1111 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ware is better then Carter...I really don't know why people are saying hes a monster though, I watch him all the time and I don't see what makes him a "monster" or a "beast" all I see is a really good football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFromYellowstone Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ware, not even close. I do see some people acting like Carter is an old fart though. The man is 28. He is young. He's improving, and will only get better with more help on QB pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 AC is really underrated, but Ware is the better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorfan2179 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 wow there is an actual debate? Ware without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST is my boy Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Who is better Tom Brady or Patrick Ramsey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasSucks19922010 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Demarcus Ware is by far the better all-around player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RammsteinSkins Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ware is an absolute monster. I like Carter but Ware is just...wow.yep...close thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINS FAN #56 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ware, but Carter is getting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ware is better, but statements like this one aggravate me: ]']I think its safe to say that Ware is' date=' at least, above average in coverage. Whereas Carter is at best below average in run support..[/quote']Below average? Come on. That's just ridiculous. Carter gets pushed around in run support some times, but not always. And that's about average - because if nobody ever got pushed around in run coverage, no running backs would ever get any yardage. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Fakeman Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 I think I want the 2 minutes of my life...I spent reading this thread...refunded. Ware - all day... Still can't believe we HAD to draft Carlos...b/c we wouldn't pay Smoot the money he wanted...thus leaving us in the position of NEEDING to draft a cornerback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Derrick Harvey may be this year's Ware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigSkinRodeo Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ware in a heart beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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