ClintonINFORSIX26 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 G'head Madden ask me a question. Why dont u try supporting your claim statistics, some of your "expert analysis"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollneid21 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Coool....E - You dont know anything about football. Portis is not the problem and its not his fault that Snyder has deep pockets. They decided to pay him so they need to pay for people to block for him and find a scheme that allows him to get running lanes. He would be worth every penny if people could hold a block. They need to get Portis out in space and let him make some plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooool...E Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 You guys Portis isn't the problem. Offense starts upfront and if you can't block you aren't going to win games. Portis needs help. He can still run and can still hit the hole hard. He needs a line and Sellers to help him out. And a coach who doesn't call a draw play out of a shotgun set on third down....just a thought Yes, but we have had an o-line in the past and we have gotten paloofs 1 time, that is what I see. When you sign a RB to that kind of contract I expect Barry Sanders. There is a Ryan Grant on every Practice squad that can give me the numbers CP has given me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintonINFORSIX26 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Yes, but we have had an o-line in the past and we have gotten paloofs 1 time, that is what I see. When you sign a RB to that kind of contract I expect Barry Sanders. There is a Ryan Grant on every Practice squad that can give me the numbers CP has given me. Ok well if that is the case then why doesnt every NFL team do that. You have stated no facts at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan since a Fetus Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I say we put Portis at Right Guard because he seems to block better than anyone else who plays that position, except Thomas Get a healthy o-line and Portis will come to life......I guarantee it!!!! Get off his back!! I love his heart and determination. He wants to be a winner and it shows. I hope he retires as a Redskin, because I think he is a true Redskin!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjwilliams76 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Yes, but we have had an o-line in the past and we have gotten paloofs 1 time, that is what I see. When you sign a RB to that kind of contract I expect Barry Sanders. There is a Ryan Grant on every Practice squad that can give me the numbers CP has given me. OK... STOP!!!! We may NEVER see another Barry Sanders. Your Grant arguement is correct. Yet I would still take a player like Portis because he plays hurt. He blocks like your college friend that has not been laid in weeks. He is a beast with a decent line and his speed is tremendous. Grant just runs the football and nothing else. I see your money argument though. 10-20 mil less and I don't think we have this argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 :bsflag: Uhhhhh....this is a joke thread, right??? I mean, I'll give you the Gibbs terrible game management point, but Portis??? Have you even paid any attention to how weak our o-line is? Come ON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooool...E Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 So you want to get rid of him' date=' but don't want to cut him? Surely you don't think anyone would trade for him considering his hefty contract. You are talking yourself in circles.[/quote']Just like Lavar who was "untradable" how is that circle for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 but I feel like Betts can handle the load just as good if not better than Portis. Like when he wiffed on pass pro on Sunday giving up the sack and safety on JC?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintonINFORSIX26 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Just like Lavar who was "untradable" how is that circle for you? Another random comment that has nothing to do with anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollneid21 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 dude your an idiot. How can he produce when he doesn't have blockers. You have no clue what you are talking about. Football is about 11 guys doing their job and finishing. You have to finish your blocks so the running back can finish his run. We need blockers to open holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoefly72 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Last year when Betts was running wild I was a staunch believer that Portis was a far superior back. But watching him this year it appears he has lost not only a step, but like 3 or 4 steps. While he doesn't have many holes to run through, he also just looks SLOW once he does hit the hole. He runs hard, but he's small enough that it doesn't make much of a difference. He is not the same athlete he was when we traded for him in 2004. Look at his first touchdown run as a Redskin where he outran the Bucs' corners and safeties. You think he could do that now? I guarantee he can't run any better than a 4.6-4.7 40 right now. While our O-line has been a huge disappointment (partially due to injuries), Portis has to take some of the blame as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rafterman Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Not one or the other....... BothThe majority of us here love these two as people but unfortunately they gotta go!! Reality hurts. Neither are good enough. Gibbs 2.0 is different guys! Neither of them has the killer instinct you need to win in this league. It starts at the top, our top coach and our top player must go. Week after week so much is put on their shoulders to lead us to victory. Week after week they are given opportunity. In the end we are always disappointed. I am tired........very tired We must replace our coach and our superstar player-- Dead on. Portis is near the end of his career and Gibb's career was over around 1990. Don't waste time on trying to explain it to the oblivious, they always have to learn the hard way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Just like Lavar who was "untradable" how is that circle for you?:laugh: You do know that Lavar wasn't traded? Oh wait, you obviously don't. If I didn't know better I would say your schtick is a lot like Pittman4Two. The thing that concerns me is he acts stupid ON PURPOSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjwilliams76 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Like when he wiffed on pass pro on Sunday giving up the sack and safety on JC?? He didn't wiff. There were 2 inside rushers. He picked up the first threat. Fabini never popped his guy and we didn't have enough people to cover the blitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjwilliams76 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I guarantee he can't run any better than a 4.6-4.7 40 right now. I will bet you 10k that you are DEAD wrong. You have no concept of how slow those times are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooool...E Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 :bsflag: Uhhhhh....this is a joke thread, right??? I mean, I'll give you the Gibbs terrible game management point, but Portis??? Have you even paid any attention to how weak our o-line is? Come ON! Please stop with the excuses. Enough already, always an excuse with this guy. He is our Tom Brady, he is our Peyton Manning, he is our L. Tomlinson, he is supposed to be that. I should not have to compare him to one of Ryan Grant. That is my point. Please guys he is not our savior. When will this ever end. I mean, I like the guy don't get me wrong but he is not a superstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rafterman Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Please stop with the excuses. Enough already, always an excuse with this guy. He is our Tom Brady, he is our Peyton Manning, he is our L. Tomlinson, he is supposed to be that. I should not have to compare him to one of Ryan Grant. That is my point. Please guys he is not our savior. When will this ever end. I mean, I like the guy don't get me wrong but he is not a superstar. :applause: Running backs are a dime a dozen and Portis is near the end of his career. This team has to many holes it simply doesn't need his cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Tell ya what. Pick any RB currently in the league and put them behind our Oline as presently constituted. I guarantee you they will not have a stellar season. Fabini-washed up Heyer-wet behind the ears rookie Rabach- average on his best day Kendall- in the twighlight of his career Samuels- Pro Bowler I worry about some on this board. Engage brain before opening your mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollneid21 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 He isn't out savior no one said that. What they are saying is that Portis doesn't need to go in order for us to win. We need blockers to win. We need a coach who has control over the team and doesn't have his head buried in 1988. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooool...E Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 Why dont u try supporting your claim statistics, some of your "expert analysis"? WHAT are u talking about?? How about our record and play the past 4 years. We have done nothing with CP as our superstar. What have we done? Superstars (Brady,Manning, LT,B.Sanders) don't need excuses every week. That is what I was hoping CP was when we signed him. Another Riggo. Do I really need some stats? Some numbers 5-11, 5-7, 1 playoff win, enough statistics for you???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooool...E Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 Ok well if that is the case then why doesnt every NFL team do that. You have stated no facts at all They are..... what TOP NFL teams have massive contracts for the running back position???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollneid21 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Diesel great point. I couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rafterman Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 WHAT are u talking about?? How about our record and play the past 4 years. We have done nothing with CP as our superstar. What have we done? Superstars (Brady,Manning, LT,B.Sanders) don't need excuses every week. That is what I was hoping CP was when we signed him. Another Riggo. Do I really need some stats? Some numbers 5-11, 5-7, 1 playoff win, enough statistics for you???? AMEN Portis isn't worth the contract he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooool...E Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 Another random comment that has nothing to do with anything Ummmm, he was saying Clinton's cap hit is to high, how will get rid of him? Uhh, Lavar was that an irrelevant comment??? We got rid of Lavar and his huge underachieving contract. You are so annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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