bulldog Posted December 26, 2002 Share Posted December 26, 2002 for all those pining for Leftwich or a signing of Jake Plummer (from today's WP): _________________________________________________ But the biggest piece may be already in place, with Spurrier saying he is comfortable with Ramsey as his quarterback. "He's definitely a guy we can build with," Spurrier said. "Definitely." _________________________________________________ "He can take the steps and throw it in there as well as anybody. It's just getting in the habit of being fundamentally sound. That's an area where he can really improve. He's got all the talent. He's got courage. He's got smarts, and he can throw the ball. He can make all the throws. Now it's a matter of getting it all together." ___________________________________________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted December 26, 2002 Share Posted December 26, 2002 Man, I hope he's not just BS-ing to the masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted December 26, 2002 Share Posted December 26, 2002 Originally posted by bulldog for all those pining for Leftwich or a signing of Jake Plummer (from today's WP): _________________________________________________ But the biggest piece may be already in place, with Spurrier saying he is comfortable with Ramsey as his quarterback. "He's definitely a guy we can build with," Spurrier said. "Definitely." Even before I read this I thought anyone who advocated drafting a QB with a high draft choice or bringing in Jake Plummer was nuts. How can you expect more out of a rookie QB than what Patrick has done? I think he has a chance to be a star, and will at least make it to that Phil Simms "semi-star" level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted December 26, 2002 Author Share Posted December 26, 2002 it's funny you bring up Simms because when I see him out there in that #11 uniform, Phil was the first qb I thought of :laugh: Ramsey appears to have the same intensity and physical courage that Simms did and that is something that gets respect from teammates. You can notice an almost instantaneous rise in the level of play of the entire team in the Giants game when he came in to replace Wuerffel. You could see flashes of that same confidence in the second half aborted comeback against the Eagles. No, I think when you look at some of the younger players we have had at qb in the past, guys like Shuler and Frerotte, that seemed to be 'deer in the headlights' when facing the speed of NFL defenses, Ramsey is a rare ruby. He has the presence of a guy who has been out there for 3 or 4 years. And that is not common in a rookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted December 26, 2002 Share Posted December 26, 2002 On Spurriers show (980) I seem to recall him saying that Patrick is staying in the area in the offseason to work out with the team and more specifically, with his WR's and RB's. I think that means Spurrier will be here also, maybe Danny too. Try to "Gel" before Mini-camp even starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsThug Posted December 26, 2002 Share Posted December 26, 2002 I think Ramsey is fine. There will be growing pains, but I feel he has shown more potential than any of our rookie QBs in the last ten years. Let the kid play. In the meantime, get some thugs on our OL and DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted December 26, 2002 Author Share Posted December 26, 2002 you know what would really give this team a boost? If Tre Johnson is able to come back healthy and in shape in 2003 and give the team the kind of play at guard that he did in 1999. That is asking a lot of a 31 year old player who has suffered as many injuries as Tre has, but against the Texans when you see some of the isolated plays he made in that game just creaming defensive players in the run game, you just have to smile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted December 26, 2002 Share Posted December 26, 2002 If you can find another Guard who is above average to rotate with him then I think he'd last a lot longer. Just make sure Tre is in on the bigger downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted December 26, 2002 Author Share Posted December 26, 2002 Kim Helton has had nothing but good things to say about Johnson since he was signed, from his work ethic to how he has helped the other linemen with their technique. It's just a shame he didn't get the call for so many weeks he wasn't in game shape when he came back. Given Tre's history and his coming back to the team in 2002, I think he will want to stay here if we offer him a decent, but not large, contract for 2003. And if he is able to come back and approximate the player he was for us in previous seasons, he will be a better guard for us than just about anyone that hits the free agent market in the offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennSkinsFan Posted December 26, 2002 Share Posted December 26, 2002 I feel more comfortable now that Spurrier won't make a mistake and trade or draft another QB and get rid of Ramsey. He seems to be pretty pleased with young Patrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPare Posted December 26, 2002 Share Posted December 26, 2002 bulldog, Tre wasn't in any kind of shape when he came back. the man looked like he was pregnant. That said, i understand that he has been starting to show flashes of the player of old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted December 26, 2002 Author Share Posted December 26, 2002 that was my point, that he had been on the shelf for 8-10 weeks and was out of football shape. Helton indicated that in practice they began to see more each week of what kind of player Johnson is capable of being, and they were committed to bringing him along slowly to ensure he didn't get hurt again. One would have to think with only one game left in 2002, that part of that thinking was to bring him back in 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins57 Posted December 27, 2002 Share Posted December 27, 2002 Originally posted by bulldog that was my point, that he had been on the shelf for 8-10 weeks and was out of football shape. Helton indicated that in practice they began to see more each week of what kind of player Johnson is capable of being, and they were committed to bringing him along slowly to ensure he didn't get hurt again. One would have to think with only one game left in 2002, that part of that thinking was to bring him back in 2003. I agree Bulldog, why invest all that time an dwork in him and let him go after starting 2 games. I believe he will be back next season, question is will Stai be back or will he cost too much to release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastNCFan Posted December 27, 2002 Share Posted December 27, 2002 Man, I would love to see what Ramsey could do with the hogs in front of him. He has put up solid stats everytime he played, with the exception of the 4 ints against the Ain'ts. I'd say we solidify the line, get some decent guards in there. Moore hasn't played too bad, so I don't see a large rush to get rid of him. I'd like to see Tre stay around. He's not the dominant guard he was the 1st time around, but he's a servicable back-up. I think if Ramsey can sit back there comfortably, he can make some things happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 Stai definately wont cost too much to release. As I recall, he signed a 3 or 4 year deal, but recieved a minimum bonus. I'm a lil too lazy to look it up right now, but he can be released with minimum effect on the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 We didn't sign Stai, we traded for him. I'm under the impression that the Lions absorbed his signing bonus as a cap hit, and the only thing on the books for us is his yearly salary. So, we're free to cut him without any cap impact, save having 1.2 million to give to somebody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted December 28, 2002 Share Posted December 28, 2002 That's an affirmative on that one. Detroit picked up the tab on the signing bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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