we_want_56 Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Has it been decided that Springs won't be a post June 1 cut. You would think if we made that decision to cut him we would do it the first day we could. BUt Springs, Williams, and Gibbs have all said that he'll be here on the 5th. Does this mean Springs is here or at least this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
we_want_56 Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 LMAO!! People are full of a bunch of jokes today. LOLSeriously though.. you have to admit how ironic that would be with Rhonnel buying a leash after all of this. Sorry Mods, put this in the NFL forum by mistake can someone move it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneBoost Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 u wanna pay clements 7 yr 80 mil? Why not! As long as he plays a full season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted May 25, 2007 Author Share Posted May 25, 2007 im still waiting for loudmouth12thman to explain what he was talking about. i want info!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfWashington Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Heard tonight that he won't be here this year from a reliable source. Heard that he's got some things to iron out and that he won't be a Redskin. Take it for what it's worth, but don't be surprised if he isn't here this year. HTTR Any further info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ksgood84 Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Yes. Besides the fact that it's kinda late to go through with a trade, and that he's in his early thirties, we kind of need him. Did you see the difference in our pass coverage last year when he was out and Carlos Rogers was all alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staticmc13 Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 I wish he is back but I don't think so. He needs to re-do this contract to give us a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MumboSauce Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 I want him here...don't know if he will be though. so I chose no...just have a wierd feeling that aint mexican food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 As bad as things have been between Springs and the Skins, this team absolutely needs him. After him, Smoot, and Rogers, they very thin at CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfriedm Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 With out a doubt.....YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi6 Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 Frankly, who cares! Shawn can go bye bye... the Skins really don't need him. They have gone out and gotten the necessary backups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onnie007 Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 I hope so. June 4th! :point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySkin21 Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 don't forget macklin... macklin is a hard worker and he's a decent cb. I'm just not ready to ride springs dick after he bascially id non existant last year due to injuries and he will probably do the ame this year. I used to like springs but I don't like anyone who isn't about the team. And i wouldn't care if we cut spring, or trade or whateer, i was more heartbroken when we let go of smoot,bailey, and arrington. Besides, you never know who we can pick up to help us at CB this year is something happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySkin21 Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 Brain Surgeon. Why didn't you just name the thread "Springs Sucks Ass, I Hate Him."It was obvious that this was where you were headed. Like the whole poll thing was so sneaky. :laugh: Get a life already, he is the best we have. look at you in this thread calling someone else a brain surgeon and sayin that about his opinion about springs.. when you are the one who started the thread that says portis isnt a homerun threat and betts is better because he has more YPC.. but the thing you didn't realize is that any back-up who isnt a everydown back is always going to hae a better YPC coming in and only running 5-10 per game compared to portis who runs 30+ times a game.. I honestly wish you liked the cowboys, then i could understand your ignorance.. but you gotta be a skins fan, from florida at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SASKINTOTHEEND Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 Brandon Lloyd Christmas]hate to break it to you, but springs isnt that great anyways. he'll miss at least 4 games .minimum[/i] I totally agree. Yeah, springs is alright, but he ain't all that. Again he might get hurt and out 3,4,or 5 games.:2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Deadman Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 Just wondering, ive heard mixed opinions but i figured id start a poll to see. he hasnt shown up for camp yet, the FO doesnt want to pay his salary, they have tried to trade him, and hes 32 and has injury concerns. so, will he be here or not? Barring injury and being put on the IR.......yes. He fits in Williams system better than any other DB on the squad. Can blitz, can play the run and can cover most #1's (he usually shuts TO down or holds him to minimal gains). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINS FAN #56 Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 I hope so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ksgood84 Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 i dont think paying a guy, who hasnt played a full season in 6 years coming off of 2 major injuries and one nagging injury, 7 million dollars makes any sense. nate clements is a better, younger, harder hitting, better turnover creating, healthier cornerback than shawn "ouch" springs. that is why he was paid so much. springs is entering the later years of his backloaded contract, ill be shocked if we pay him. Shawn "Ouch" Springs? Very original... Yeah, I know Snyder has a penchant for spending lots, but we didn't have the cap space to even talk about getting Nate Clements. Think of what you're asking; getting rid of Springs, which would be a cap penalty, and then tryig to sign Clements, who got an 80 million dollar deal. It's just not going down, sorry buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ksgood84 Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 False about ridiculous contract - see Nate Clements. Springs is probably one of the four or five most capable cornerbacks in the NFL. He will be paid much more than we are paying him this year if he leaves.Look at Bly, look at Clements, look at Samuel. Springs is older, I know. However, over the next two years (which is how long he is under contract here for), I bet you that 15-20 teams would pay Springs more than we are paying him. and quoted for truth. People hating on Springs' contract need to realize that had we got clements, it would be much more a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNoles21 Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 We need depth, if Springs cant play every game he cant play every game...but.. Smoot Rogers and Macklin is an average secondary... Springs Smoot Rogers and Macklin is an above average secondary. Combine those four with our safeties and it is just naaasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40Gut Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 We need him. if carlos or smoot goes down we are back to were we started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isle-hawg Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 I don't understand those on here who want to cut Springs, he is our best corner when playing. For the games we actually had our starting corners healthy and playing together last year our D played fine (Carolina and NO comes to mind). So now we add some depth to our secondary and some suggest we get rid of Springs. Makes as much sense to me as trade or gid rid of Portis or Betts threads:doh: Yes Springs has a history getting hurt, but Rogers also got hurt last year as well. Now we have better depth at the position by adding Smoot and Macklin but WTF get rid of the depth at the posistion? What if we cut Springs then Smoot gets hurt early in the season. We then have Macklin starting and then have unproven players at the nickle and dime positions. Besides iIf you haven't already looked at the salary cap implications we do not gain much cap relief anyway should we cut or trade Springs this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit 33 Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 I am on the side of keeping Springs, but I understand the rationale of the people who want to release Springs. Releasing Springs now, would hurt the Skins this year, but help the salary cap in the coming years. Most fans do not want to think 2,3, or 4 years ahead.All most fans are concerned with, is the coming year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted May 27, 2007 Author Share Posted May 27, 2007 and quoted for truth. People hating on Springs' contract need to realize that had we got clements, it would be much more a joke. um, clements was the best CB on the market, and sorry to break it to you, hes better than springs. hes more durable (has never missed a game, go look at how much springs plays), he creates more turnovers, and hes just a better more physical cornerback. if springs was so good, dont you think some of these teams we tried trading him to would have jumped at the chance? or maybe all these teams dont want to pay over the hill injury prone cornerbacks 7 million dollars. springs has 2 picks in the past 2 years, top 5 cornerbacks (hell, top 30) generate well beyond that. he doesnt blitz anymore, and every week hes a mystery to play. but hey, i guess to some of you that warrants 7 mil a year. clements contract isnt a joke, if you understood how it works its not that crazy. i think hes due 40 mil of that 80 in his last two years, and he'll never see a dime of it. 80 mil a year for 8 years doesnt mean hes making 10 a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit 33 Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 um, clements was the best CB on the market, and sorry to break it to you, hes better than springs. hes more durable (has never missed a game, go look at how much springs plays), he creates more turnovers, and hes just a better more physical cornerback.if springs was so good, dont you think some of these teams we tried trading him to would have jumped at the chance? or maybe all these teams dont want to pay over the hill injury prone cornerbacks 7 million dollars. springs has 2 picks in the past 2 years, top 5 cornerbacks (hell, top 30) generate well beyond that. he doesnt blitz anymore, and every week hes a mystery to play. but hey, i guess to some of you that warrants 7 mil a year. clements contract isnt a joke, if you understood how it works its not that crazy. i think hes due 40 mil of that 80 in his last two years, and he'll never see a dime of it. 80 mil a year for 8 years doesnt mean hes making 10 a year. Clements deal was outrageous. He is now the highest paid defensive player ever and I am not talking about 8 years 80 million, but rather the guaranteed money he recieved. Your argument of statistics for corners does not make football sense. Interceptions are not the way to judge corners. We as skins fans should understand that best (D.Green). When Springs is on the field for the Skins he is well worth the 7 million dollars. Releasing Springs this year, hurts the Skins defense too much. After reading some recent reports on him, it seems as if he is working his butt off this offseason. Have a little faith in him and enjoy watching him put Owens on lock down next year!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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