waterwagen Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Hello? 2nd string o-line vs. 1st string defense? Hello? Anyone?So he is compelled to throw the ball into the arms of defensive linemen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmorina69 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Quick awsner is no, i rather have ARE or Portis back takening the snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Im giving him the benefit of the doubt unless it happens again. Everyone has a bad day now and then. I agree. - I'm not ready to trash him just yet, but if he comes in the next game and looks the same way, then maybe we can take a look at Casey Bramlet as a possible #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher44 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Is Collins somehow related to Saunders.Thats the only way I see him being in a uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Is Collins somehow related to Saunders.Thats the only way I see him being in a uniform. I really think he was there to help teach the offense in a crash course, because he can man the helm in practice. I doubt Saunders has much confidence left in him now. He has been the #2 in KC for a long time, but Green has yet to miss a game there which is amazing. I too, would rather have Randle El play a shotgun option offense than have chance to see the debacle of depraved football I witnessed Sunday night. Oh the horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 If we had pulled the plug on Brunell after 2004, we would have finished 6-10 or 7-9 in 2005 and missed the playoffs with Ramsey at qb. Look, he can't even solidify the backup job in New York Yet, that was the vote of the fans after 2004. Collins will never be the starting qb of the Redskins by coach or fan choice, but he is on the roster for a reason. And that reason is to help get Campbell ready to play. Not merely ready to go out there and get drilled and throw interceptions, but go out there and be successful In that regard he is an important asset to the team right now. I don't really care what he does in time with a backup line that has perhaps 1 or 2 guys that will make the roster and 3 that will be cut outright Especially not when facing an NFL starting DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Dude88 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Collins will always have a place on our bench! JC is "dat dude". The one people will speak of in the future about the Redskin QB that's been putting up big #'s. I can hear it now..."That's dat dude they were talking about!" Collins is a scrub & it's a shame a person that was intended to be an integral part in helping our QB's learn the Offense, hasn't even learned to look like like a veteran of the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friend of the Devil Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 A friend of mine is a Chiefs fan, he thanked me for the 'Skins picking up Todd Collins. Now I see why. Does anyone else think he should be the 3rd stringer and that Jason Campbell should be our back up?:dallasuck He should be doing the laundry at Fed-Ex after the games in my opinion. Throwing damn near underhand balls to the defensive tackle in two consecutive series will not win #2 QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbuzz1962 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 It was certainly and embarassment for Collins. I couldn't imagine a worse start than he had Sunday night. The interception to a lineman on his knees? Don't think I have ever seen that by any NFL quarterback. Keep him on the practice squad only. Emergency quarterback only please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc17mvp Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 :helmet: Campbell should be training Collins! Lead us to the Superbowl Jason Campbell #17. :logo: Campbell just makes good ..:2cents:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojobo Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Quick awsner is no, i rather have ARE or Portis back takening the snaps. Agreed!! Start getting ARE some reps so he step in if something happens to Brunnell and Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I don't really care what he does in time with a backup line that has perhaps 1 or 2 guys that will make the roster and 3 that will be cut outright Especially not when facing an NFL starting DL. Actually our line did a pretty good job against the pass rush when there wasn't a blitz, at least the left side which is Collins' blindside - both against Cinci's starters and backups. Especially Walter, I thought he really proved himself as a left tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Actually our line did a pretty good job against the pass rush when there wasn't a blitz, at least the left side which is Collins' blindside - both against Cinci's starters and backups.Especially Walter, I thought he really proved himself as a left tackle. Walter's play may very well have been the brightest spot for the game! It is true we had RB's with little if any NNFL experience being asked to diagnose and pick up blitzes. This is a tough task and I overlooked this in the midst of my Collins disgust. Still disgusted by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Im giving him the benefit of the doubt unless it happens again. Everyone has a bad day now and then. Campbell is looking pretty good but I still wouldn't want to see him play a full game just yet. So you'd want to see Todd Collins play a full game? :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bake Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Clearly, the only reason Collins is here, is to help Al Saunders teach the offense. Jason Campbell has the better arm and legs of all three QB's. Mark Brunell has more field experience than the other two put together. Todd Collins has been in the league for ten years, knows Saunders offense, but is not as good of an athelete as the other QB's. #1.Mark Brunell #2.Jason Campbell #3.(Clipboard)Todd Collins :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 So he is compelled to throw the ball into the arms of defensive linemen? I also pointed out that he was rusty and looked better as he settled in. Keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterwagen Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I also pointed out that he was rusty and looked better as he settled in. Keep up.Actually, the quote I responded to was Hello? 2nd string o-line vs. 1st string defense? Hello? Anyone?Keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmic Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Todd Collins is not a QB. Really he is a Quarter Horse with Terets and a Helmet :munchout: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinsforlife Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Ummm... yes? I have a feeling it will be that way shortly. I do feel a little bad for Collins actually. Sure, he sucked, but he had ZERO protection. He just didnt handle the crappy pass blocking very well. When he did have time he actually made a couple nice throws... Feel bad for collins?? How much money per pass has he earned in his carreer? O line was bad but he was off the chain bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman330 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 A friend of mine is a Chiefs fan, he thanked me for the 'Skins picking up Todd Collins. Now I see why. Does anyone else think he should be the 3rd stringer and that Jason Campbell should be our back up?:dallasuck 2 words....HELL YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Feel bad for collins?? How much money per pass has he earned in his carreer? O line was bad but he was off the chain bad. If you go back and watch the game again - I didn't notice his protection so horribly bad compared to an average NFL game. I think people are making a little more of it then there really was. He always had time to see the blitz (which were always obvious, no zone blitz masking) and go to his hot read - he just never did. Stop making excuses - the guy sucked large radioactive donkey like I've never seen. Todd Collins is not a QB. Really he is a Quarter Horse with Terets and a Helmet :munchout: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterwagen Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 If you go back and watch the game again - I didn't notice his protection so horribly bad compared to an average NFL game. I think people are making a little more of it then there really was.He always had time to see the blitz (which were always obvious, no zone blitz masking) and go to his hot read - he just never did. Yup. Bad protection is an excuse for sacks or incomplete passes. It is NOT an excuse for passes right into the arms of defensive linemen. Two series in a row! I'm willing to cut him some slack since he hasn't played much the last, oh, 7 years, but he's got a lot to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinsfan17 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 From what I saw, Jason Campbell made better decisions and looked like he was comfortable. Collins lacked everything needed to be a #2. At this point I would put Campbell as #2 unless Collins performs unbelivably well Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.