Mitt Romney is an effin loser

[chomerics]

What a freakin loser this guy is, I can't believe I actually voted for this turncoat SOB. No only has he bashed the state he is governer for, he is now running for president because he would lose in a landslide if he ran for governer again, now today the latest in his move to the far right.

In Mass, the RCC stopped adoption services because our LAWS require them to adopt to gay couples. Well, this dolt now thinks there is no problem with discrimination because of someones sexual preference, as he is trying to make discrimination on same sex LEGAL.

I guess this moron forgets what state he is representing, thank god our senators and reps would NEVER let this obvious and blantent pandering to the extreme right pass. This guy is a disgrace to our state, I'll be happy when this SOB is gone. He has disdain for OUR laws and thinks because of his warped Puritanistic sense of morality, he can avoid the wants of the voters, and the LAWS that govern our state!!!

Just so you know, when he ran as governer in Mass, he was a pro-gay rights and pro-choice guy. This will be used against him highly in the republican primaries, and he will get his clock cleaned by the religious right who will have their money behind Frist. I can't wait to watch this loosed go down in flames, freakin hypocrite.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/03/16/romney_bill_seeks_adoption_exemption/

[Mass_SkinsFan]

I'll start off by saying that while I am not a huge fan of Mitt Romney, he's a lot better than the other option we had on the ballot a couple years ago.

What a freakin loser this guy is, I can't believe I actually voted for this turncoat SOB. Not only has he bashed the state he is governer for, he is now running for president because he would lose in a landslide if he ran for governer again, now today the latest in his move to the far right.

Yes, Romney is a loser and I'm not happy with the fact that he was simply the better (not good) option for Governor. The Communistwealth of Massachusetts deserves every bit of bashing it gets, from Romney and everyone else. Romney will never be a member of the "far right" as you call it.

In Mass, the RCC stopped adoption services because our LAWS require them to adopt to gay couples. Well, this dolt now thinks there is no problem with discrimination because of someones sexual preference, as he is trying to make discrimination on same sex LEGAL.

Yes, the Catholic Church (which I am NOT a member of) has held to its principles and determined that if they were to be required to adopt to gay couples they would no longer be involved in adoptive services. That sounds pretty reasonable and it makes a lot of sense to me. Unfortunately, considering the current state of Child & Family Services here in the Communistwealth they can't deal with all these adoptions on their own. They need the RCC and other organizations to shoulder some of the load. Romney understands that the problems in our adoptive system are only going to get worse if the RCC is no longer involved. Whereas many of our more Socialist legislators and citizens would rather see these children in foster homes rather than being placed permanently by an organization that holds moral values that are more traditional than theirs. To them, their political views are more important than the welfare of these children. I may not like Romney but on this issue, he's right.

I guess this moron forgets what state he is representing, thank god our senators and reps would NEVER let this obvious and blantent pandering to the extreme right pass. This guy is a disgrace to our state, I'll be happy when this SOB is gone. He has disdain for OUR laws and thinks because of his warped Puritanistic sense of morality, he can avoid the wants of the voters, and the LAWS that govern our state!!!

Our Senators and Reps pander to the opposite side of the political spectrum, so their complaints are about as hollow as humanly possible. The disgrace to the state is our entire political system. Our laws. Our legislature. Our judiciary. The greatest disdain for the laws and history of the Commonwealth (before it became the Communistwealth) is shown by the legislators, judges, and the Attorney General of this state. Who largely happen to be DEMOCRATS!!!!!! They hold no interest in the will of the people, the laws of the Commonwealth or the history and traditions of the same.

Just so you know, when he ran as governer in Mass, he was a pro-gay rights and pro-choice guy. This will be used against him highly in the republican primaries, and he will get his clock cleaned by the religious right who will have their money behind Frist. I can't wait to watch this loosed go down in flames, freakin hypocrite.

Romney never had a chance in the Republican primaries. Too many of us True Conservatives have had enough of George Bush's quasi-Conservatism to allow another moderate to get the nomination. He will go down in flames, but not over this issue.

[Kilmer17]

Wow, you voted for Romney?

Even I wouldnt have done that.

Mass is right, that was truly a race between the lesser of two idiots. But the shame was you had to elect one of them.

Romney is no more of a Republican that you are Chom. He'd be a socialist in Virginia.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Wow, you voted for Romney?

Even I wouldnt have done that.

Mass is right, that was truly a race between the lesser of two idiots. But the shame was you had to elect one of them.

Romney is no more of a Republican that you are Chom. He'd be a socialist in Virginia.

Unfortunately the alternate option was considerably WORSE than Romney was. A lot of us were hoping that Romney was just blowing smoke in an attempt to gain some of the "moderate Democrat" voting block. Unfortunately, if anything Romney has gotten LESS Conservative, not more Conservative during his time in Boston.

We don't have many REAL Republicans here in Massachusetts. We have Democrats and Republicrats. Hell, the Republican Party doesn't even bother nominating or running candidates in half of the races for state office since they know there's no chance of the candidate getting elected and even if they did, there wouldn't be any real difference between a Democrat from the North Shore and a Republicrat from the North Shore.

[Sarge]

Unfortunately, if anything Romney has gotten LESS Conservative, not more Conservative during his time in Boston.

I thought maybe the guy had come around or something

[Major Harris]

In Mass, the RCC stopped adoption services because our LAWS require them to adopt to gay couples. Well, this dolt now thinks there is no problem with discrimination because of someones sexual preference, as he is trying to make discrimination on same sex LEGAL.

i understand your concern is w/ the governor, and not the RCC, at least i hope. they aren't breaking any laws by stopping adoption services. they are entitled to their moral code, no matter if you or anyone else agrees w/ it. they're not forcing anything on anyone, just abiding by what they think is right, and doing so within the law. :2cents:

[Mass_SkinsFan]

I thought maybe the guy had come around or something

Nope. If anything being inside Rt. 128 has made both Romney and his Lt. Gov. more Liberal and more willing to accept the Socialist manifesto that the legislature has been promoting for decades. The Lt. Gov. USED TO BE fairly Conservative when she was a legislator from the Western part of the state. She no longer is. Which is simply another in the list of reasons (beyond her being female) why I will not be able to vote for her this fall.

[hokie4redskins]

I'd imagine most Mass. residents are waiting for Vlad Lenin to rise from the dead, and somehow qualify to run for Mass. governor.

[Midnight Judges]

The term "socialist" gets thrown around a little too easily these days.

1. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

2. The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

I'd imagine most Mass. residents are waiting for Vlad Lenin to rise from the dead, and somehow qualify to run for Mass. governor.

You would be totally correct. His Lt. Governor would be Chairman Mao(sp?).

[Mass_SkinsFan]

The term "socialist" gets thrown around a little too easily these days.

Actually I would tell you that is DOESN'T get thrown around OFTEN ENOUGH. If we're going to protect the capitalist and conservative roots of this country we need to start throwing the word Socialist around a lot more, becuase it actually IS what a good many of the Democrats/Liberals/Left-Wingers out there are.

1. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

2. The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.

Have you looked at the taxes and service fees here in the Communistwealth of Massachusetts? Income Tax, Sales Tax, Service Fees out of sight... predominantly to provide funding for over-reaching social programs that should not even exist to begin with. The government of the Communistwealth is all about taking money from certain people and redistributing it to others as the STATE (not the people) see fit. The extensive Unionization of work here in Massachusetts and the deference shown to said Unions by the government is another symptom of the Socialization of Massachusetts. Also look at the restrictions on firearms ownership and other RIGHTS granted not only by the US, but by the MASSACHUSETTS Constitution.

Do I need to go on????

[nelms]

The term "socialist" gets thrown around a little too easily these days.

1. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

2. The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.

That's a perfect definition for the views of Comrade Ted Kennedyolff. Thank you for sharing.

[Sarge]

But I guess the reason Chom is upset is the fact that the guy appears to be straying from the Chomunist Manifesto

[Midnight Judges]

When you accuse the United States of America of being socialist you show yourself to be utterly out of touch with history and ungrateful for your current situation.

Socialism is where the government owns and runs private business. Minimum wage laws are not socialism. Income tax is not socialism. Adoption programs are not soclialism, and you guys ae complaining that the Governmnt of Mass is too overbearing and too expensive, while this article clearly shows that their adoption programs are completely inadequate and underfunded now that the Catholic Churches have abandoned it.

Read the definition again: "the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy."

-That is not even close to the case in Massachussettes. Your Republican media sources have tricked you by revising history and changing definitions for words like "socialism" and "liberal." When you come here and repeat this garabage, you are made to look like a tool.

Why do you guys hate America?

[Midnight Judges]

That's a perfect definition for the views of Comrade Ted Kennedyolff. Thank you for sharing.

If you really are 70 years old you ought to know what real socialism is. Shame on you.

[nelms]

When you accuse the USA of being socialist you show yourself to be completely and utterly out of touch with history and ungrateful.

Socialism is where the government owns and runs private business. Minimum wage laws are not socialism. Income tax is not socialism. Adoption programs are not soclialism, and you guys ae complaining that the Governmnt of Mass is too overbearing and too expensive, while this article clearly shows that their adoption programs are completely inadequate and underfunded now that the Catholic Churches are abandoning it.

Read the definition again: "the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy."

-That is not even close to the case in Massachussettes. Your Republican media sources have tricked you by revising history and changing definitions for words like "socialism" and "liberal." When you come here and repeat this garabage, you are made to look like a tool.

Why do you guys hate America?

The purpose of our income tax system and government spending programs is for the redistribution of wealth. It may not have started out that way, but that is what they have become. Socialists like Comrades Kennedyollf and Kerryov are the biggest supporters of it.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

But I guess the reason Chom is upset is the fact that the guy appears to be straying from the Chomunist Manifesto

Possibly. I know what it is about this that ticks off most of the Left-Wing kooks who inhabit the Eastern third of the state......

a. Catholic Children's Charities, which is the organization inside the RCC that is involved in adoption services, WILL NOT assist/allow gay couples to use their service to adopt a child. Obviously based on the church's morals/value system. The same system that is being used to ensure that Catholic churches in Massachusetts will not perform same-gender marriages, despite the fact that they are legal here in the Communistwealth.

b. The RCC has tax exempt status. Since tax revenues are the idolic "god" that Socialists pray to, the idea that anyone would be exempt from paying taxes is disgusting to these people. Especially when the exempt status is given to the organizations (churches mostly) who "cause" the social problems that the taxes go to "fix" by actually holding to their stated morals/values and won't work with those who don't accept those principles.

c. Catholic Children's Charities receives state money to do some of their adoption work. The state's family and child welfare system is so overworked and screwed up that they need to outsource some of their functions to private groups. The state provides some funding for those agencies that help out in these matters.

[Midnight Judges]

The purpose of our income tax system and government spending programs is for the redistribution of wealth. It may not have started out that way, but that is what they have become. Socialists like Comrades Kennedyollf and Kerryov are the biggest supporters of it.

Theresa Heinz Kerry is a billionaire. She pays 12% income tax. Your model only works when you forget about all the loopholes in our tax system that are available to rich people and not poor people such as mortgage interest deductions, bankruptcy laws, small business and big business laws, etc. If you think rich people do not all take advntage of these laws you are sadly mistaken.

Senator Kennedy is a huge proponent of raising minimum wage. You've been made to think this is socialism whereas I think it's a standard that any civil self-respecting, ethical country would live by. In England they are raising MW to $10 and in Australia it is $12. In the US it's $5.15. I think if you work your butt off 60 hours a week you should a least be above the poverty line. You don't. Your party supports sweatshops in Saipan and slave labor (and that is is not an exaggeration). Unfortunately, that is not the case and you wonder why there is a shortage of construction workers and why illegals aliens are the only ones who will take those jobs. Minimum wage workers get poorer by 2-3% each year, and it's been 8 years since the last federal MW increase. MW workers are 24% poorer under Bush and Rich people are 3.9% richer. THAT, my friend, is income redistribution.

Republican leadership simply does not care about the poor and they use words like "socialism" to intimidate the weak-minded into agreeing with them.

[Sarge]

Theresa Heinz Kerry is a billionaire. She pays 12% income tax. Your model only works when you forget about all the loopholes in our tax system that are available to rich people and not poor people such as mortgage interest deductions, bankruptcy laws, small business and big business laws, etc. If you think rich people do not all take advntage of these laws you are sadly mistaken.

Senator Kennedy is a huge proponent of raising minimum wage. You've been made to think this is socialism whereas I think it's a standard that any civil self-respecting, ethical country would live by. In England they are raising MW to $10 and in Australia it is $12. In the US it's $5.15. I think if you work your butt off 60 hours a week you should a least be above the poverty line. You don't. Your party supports sweatshops in Saipan and slave labor (and that is is not an exaggeration). Unfortunately, that is not the case and you wonder why there is a shortage of construction jobs and why illegals aliens are the only ones who will take those jobs. Minimum wage workers get poorer by 2-3% each year, and it's been 8 years since the last federal MW increase. MW workers are 24% poorer under Bush ad Rich people are 10% richer. THAT, my friend, is income redistrubution.

Republican leadership simply does not care about the poor and they use words like "socialism" to intimidate the weak-minded into agreeing with them.

Just out of curiousity, where in the Constitution does it guarantee a certain wage for work performed?

[Mass_SkinsFan]

When you accuse the United States of America of being socialist you show yourself to be utterly out of touch with history and ungrateful for your current situation.

EXCUSE ME?!?!?!

Out of touch with history? Umm... I live less than a 45 minute drive from the first place where AMERICANS stood up and said they would not be ruled by a government that was not of their own choosing. Where they metaphorically said "from my cold, dead hands" to the concept of gun control. Where they used those same weapons to overthrow a tyranical government.

As for being ungrateful about my current situation.... Anything less than the government and country described in the US Constitution is a situation I have no interest in living in, so don't tell me I'm being ungrateful when a large number of the provisions of that document have been thrown out the window... starting in the 1860's and rapidly accelerating in the last 100 years of American history.

Socialism is where the government owns and runs private business. Minimum wage laws are not socialism. Income tax is not socialism. Adoption programs are not soclialism, and you guys ae complaining that the Governmnt of Mass is too overbearing and too expensive, while this article clearly shows that their adoption programs are completely inadequate and underfunded now that the Catholic Churches have abandoned it.

The concepts you have mentioned are indeed Socialist. Government control over business is a Socialist concept. The specifics might not fall exactly in line with Russian or French Socialism, but they are indeed attempts to put a Socialist philosophy in place here in the United States.

BTW - Why the h-e-l-l is the GOVERNMENT involved in adoption at all? It's a social concern. Like education, welfare and medical treatment. I can't find any part of Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution or the Massachusetts Constitution that gives the GOVERNMENT any say in social matters of that sort.

Why do you guys hate America?

I definitely hate Amerika. AMERICA hasn't existed since the 1860's and it's become more and more Amerika over the last 100 years. We're slowly moving towards a Socialist utopia disguised as a capitalist society. THAT'S why I hate much of what's going on in Amerika today.

[rincewind]

I definitely hate Amerika. AMERICA hasn't existed since the 1860's and it's become more and more Amerika over the last 100 years. We're slowly moving towards a Socialist utopia disguised as a capitalist society. THAT'S why I hate much of what's going on in Amerika today.

Yeah i get to say it to a conservative: If you don't like it, THEN LEAVE!

[hokie4redskins]

Theresa Heinz Kerry is a billionaire. She pays 12% income tax. Your model only works when you forget about all the loopholes in our tax system that are available to rich people and not poor people such as mortgage interest deductions, bankruptcy laws, small business and big business laws, etc. If you think rich people do not all take advntage of these laws you are sadly mistaken.

Senator Kennedy is a huge proponent of raising minimum wage. You've been made to think this is socialism whereas I think it's a standard that any civil self-respecting, ethical country would live by. In England they are raising MW to $10 and in Australia it is $12. In the US it's $5.15. I think if you work your butt off 60 hours a week you should a least be above the poverty line. You don't. Your party supports sweatshops in Saipan and slave labor (and that is is not an exaggeration). Unfortunately, that is not the case and you wonder why there is a shortage of construction workers and why illegals aliens are the only ones who will take those jobs. Minimum wage workers get poorer by 2-3% each year, and it's been 8 years since the last federal MW increase. MW workers are 24% poorer under Bush and Rich people are 3.9% richer. THAT, my friend, is income redistribution.

Republican leadership simply does not care about the poor and they use words like "socialism" to intimidate the weak-minded into agreeing with them.

Loopholes like mortgage interest deductions? So what you're saying is you're against private home ownership, which therefore concludes you're for government ownership, which therefore concludes you're a friggin' socialist on your way to achieve communist utopia. Alright, thanks for clearing that up for us.

Raising the minimum wage just allows government to take more of your income. You end up paying more to the government and your net increase goes unnoticed. Thus, the government owns more of your money for redistribution. How is this not socialism? Not only that, how do businesses compensate the forced rise in minimum wage? They cut their workforce. Then those left unemployed seek unemployment benefits paid for by the rise in minimum wage taxation. It's an endless cycle of economic stagnation.

Midnight, you're making yourself look like a complete fool. Just admit dems are socialist/communist wannabes and people might start respecting your opinions a bit more.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Yeah i get to say it to a conservative: If you don't like it, THEN LEAVE!

You know what, if there was any other place in the world even close to the Founding Fathers original intent for this country, I would have been gone a long time ago. Unforunately the USA is as close as it gets currently. Hopefully in the near future the REAL Conservatives in this country will step forward and fix the issues, one way or another.

There's a big difference between you Liberals and us Conservatives.... We're only going to take so much and then you folks are going to find out just how many Conservatives are willing to look down the barrel of a firearm and pull the trigger on another human being to make things in this country right again. Whereas I highly doubt that many of you Liberals have the same level of commitment to your beliefs.

[rincewind]

You know what, if there was any other place in the world even close to the Founding Fathers original intent for this country, I would have been gone a long time ago. Unforunately the USA is as close as it gets currently. Hopefully in the near future the REAL Conservatives in this country will step forward and fix the issues, one way or another.

There's a big difference between you Liberals and us Conservatives.... We're only going to take so much and then you folks are going to find out just how many Conservatives are willing to look down the barrel of a firearm and pull the trigger on another human being to make things in this country right again. Whereas I highly doubt that many of you Liberals have the same level of commitment to your beliefs.

Yeah, we're a funny lot. Ya know not wanting to kill our fellow countrymen and all. Its funny that you consider anybody that voted for Kerry to be guilty of treason, yet your above post literally borders on treason - i mean suggesting to KILL AMERICANS!?!?!?

[Major Harris]

You know what, if there was any other place in the world even close to the Founding Fathers original intent for this country, I would have been gone a long time ago. Unforunately the USA is as close as it gets currently. Hopefully in the near future the REAL Conservatives in this country will step forward and fix the issues, one way or another.

There's a big difference between you Liberals and us Conservatives.... We're only going to take so much and then you folks are going to find out just how many Conservatives are willing to look down the barrel of a firearm and pull the trigger on another human being to make things in this country right again. Whereas I highly doubt that many of you Liberals have the same level of commitment to your beliefs.

what happens to those of us in the middle, you know, the ones who "get it?" :whoknows: