indatrenches Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 We have home grown talent RIGHT HERE that seems to leave every offseason or get out of contracts because they are frustrated with new free agents coming in every year, and we spend mega bucks on them. However for the past few years we never lock up or can find money our own young drafted players or "Street" Players which is why i think they take the option of leaving. For the past six offseasons we have watched a LOT of talent come in with big money signing bonuses and 7 year contracts but could never come up with money for our drafted/undrafted talent until the next offseason when it was seemingly too late and they felt unappreciated or unwanted which is why (not naming any players) they feel they have to leave during the offseason even though we offer them fair contracts. My whole point is that while were spending all of this money this week with X amount of dollars for X amount of years lets not forget some young home grown talent and lock Sean Taylor, and Chris Cooley up as early as possible so that they wont feel the need to walk out on the organization or give money back to buy their way out of their contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewU Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 lets not forget some young home grown talent and lock Sean Taylor up. Hopefully he doesnt get locked up in jail. Do you want us to keep guys for sentimental reasons, or do you want the best team? The Redskins are doing what they think will make them better, thats all we can ask, all the other teams are sitting their 30 mil under the cap with the same team they had last year, is that what you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 They will be taken care of next season or the after with new contracts as long as they produce and be the team player that the organization wants. Look at what Portis, Cooley and Moss and others did by talking to the players and convincing them to come also. What did smoot do in Minnesota except get caught with his pants down on the boat? I will say Pierce did a very admarable job in NY Coles did us a huge favor! Shawn Barber has done an OK job and has bounced around I do think we need some work on the O-Line and the D-Line as with Gibbs in the past these were strong points on the those Superbowl teams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMONEY Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 We have home grown talent RIGHT HERE that seems to leave every offseason or get out of contracts because they are frustrated with new free agents coming in every year, and we spend mega bucks on them. However for the past few years we never lock up or can find money our own young drafted players or "Street" Players which is why i think they take the option of leaving. For the past six offseasons we have watched a LOT of talent come in with big money signing bonuses and 7 year contracts but could never come up with money for our drafted/undrafted talent until the next offseason when it was seemingly too late and they felt unappreciated or unwanted which is why (not naming any players) they feel they have to leave during the offseason even though we offer them fair contracts. My whole point is that while were spending all of this money this week with X amount of dollars for X amount of years lets not forget some young home grown talent and lock Sean Taylor, and Chris Cooley up as early as possible so that they wont feel the need to walk out on the organization or give money back to buy their way out of their contracts. Main man I feel ya. They believe in paying others but not their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 My whole point is that while were spending all of this money this week with X amount of dollars for X amount of years lets not forget some young home grown talent and lock Sean Taylor, and Chris Cooley up as early as possible so that they wont feel the need to walk out on the organization or give money back to buy their way out of their contracts. Those are two guys who just finished the second year of their rookie contracts. At least let them play another year before talking about getting them more money. Why does it matter where this team spends its money? Are you personally writing the checks? They're doing what they can do build a team, whether through Free Agency or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadirtbags Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 by bringing in more talent you are actually helping out others on the team...everyones job becomes easier...not to mention..... how many houses/cribs and cars/rides does one player need.....Redskins pay well.....its everyone's dream to become a redskin because we have an owner who dishes out the bling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 For the past six offseasons we have watched a LOT of talent come in with big money signing bonuses and 7 year contracts but could never come up with money for our drafted/undrafted talent until the next offseason when it was seemingly too late and they felt unappreciated or unwanted which is why (not naming any players) they feel they have to leave during the offseason even though we offer them fair contracts. You mean other than Chris Samuels, Jon Jansen & Lavar Arrington? We offered very good money to Antonio Pierce and Fred Smoot last year. Just as much as we offered to Springs and Washington. Do you think they deserved to be higher paid than players on the roster that are better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Gut Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 we already have Taylor and Cooley under contract, what's your point? are you :mad: that the coaches feel Archuleta is an upgrade over Clark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 We have tendered all our RFA's and Royal got a rediculous deal from the Bills, the only thing I am dissappointed about is Evans, I really don't want to lose him on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Jumbo Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 If the coaching staff wanted to keep these guys (Smoot, Pierce, etc.. ) we would have. I trust how our staff evaluates talent and I'm not going to second guess the moves they make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 You mean other than Chris Samuels, Jon Jansen & Lavar Arrington? We offered very good money to Antonio Pierce and Fred Smoot last year. Just as much as we offered to Springs and Washington. Do you think they deserved to be higher paid than players on the roster that are better? Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhat8121 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Archuleta is an upgrade over Clark I wish Clark can still be a redskin though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I'm going to miss Clark. AA might be a better player, but I dont think the chemsitry will be the same. I'm not really a big fan of this move... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combatant Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Why would you doubt Joe Gibbs? He's not going to do anything to hurt his football team. We may have our varied opinions on who gets signed and paid what, but when it comes down to it, our opinions don't mean jack $h1T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diego1115 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 what young drafted talent is worth locking up here??? especially in the last 5 years..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 what young drafted talent is worth locking up here??? especially in the last 5 years..... Ever heard of Chris Cooley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Looking at our roster from 5 years ago to now we have 3 players remaining from that squad. Samuels, Jansen and our longsnapper. And I'm hard pressed to see any worth keeping the exceptions being Pierce and Lavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butz65 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Wow - a lot of lame flame threads today indatrenches looks like another hit and run....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Ever heard of Chris Cooley? He's two years into his rookie contract. At least give the team an opportunity to do something about it. Other than Cooley & Taylor, both of whom just finished their second seasons, we haven't had a ton of young, home-grown talent really worth keeping. We lost one guy who played well with his new team, then go injured. We lost another guy people cried about, who wound up floundering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvan1 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 im wondering the same thing. the more we play in FA, the more it seems to diss our own FAs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvan1 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 He's two years into his rookie contract. At least give the team an opportunity to do something about it. Other than Cooley & Taylor, both of whom just finished their second seasons, we haven't had a ton of young, home-grown talent really worth keeping.We lost one guy who played well with his new team, then go injured. We lost another guy people cried about, who wound up floundering. Carlos Rogers also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie5 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I think it's a bit early to be working out a new contract for Sean Taylor -- let him avoid prison first. I thought they were working with Cooley already, actually. Other than that, who have they left out in the cold? I guess you could argue that about Ryan Clark, but it seems to me that AA is an upgrade, so why wouldn't you upgrade? Smoot asked for too much and I prefer Rogers and Pierce was a borderline call. He played well for the Giants, but Marshall played well for us (for a lot cheaper), so it's almost a wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Carlos Rogers also Good point. That makes three. Many of the others, though, frankly were replaceable and were replaced with better, more suitable talent. We don't need to keep guys around just to be able to brag about how many guys we keep around. No one really has a true "franchise" player anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I guess you could argue that about Ryan Clark, but it seems to me that AA is an upgrade, so why wouldn't you upgrade? Even at that, Ryan Clark isn't really "home grown" talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I'm going to miss Clark. AA might be a better player, but I dont think the chemsitry will be the same. I'm not really a big fan of this move... It bothers me too, and I thought Clark's remarks were understandable in another thread where some people were dumping on him for "ripping" (bull) the 'skins. Though Wilbur58Z did chancge the thread-title from "rip"to "criticize", to his credit. All the info on AA makes him sound like a great guy too, though. I really like Clark. But bottom line is it is a business too, and almost always first (there are exceptions believe it or not). And Heavy Jumbo said it best. Though some (silly people) accuse the attitude as "homerish", the talent evaluators on the team are obviously and logically the ones who know best as a rule. I still have my feelings and opinions, but they are the pros. And remember, it's not a done deal yet with Clark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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