@DCGoldPants Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Why are the mocks drafts posted this week have us picking before Tampa and Cincy wit hthe 22nd overall? Is that a mistake that just hasn't been updated yet? I'd think right now we'd be sending Denver the 24th or 25th pick. Which in the grand scheme of things, seems perfect since most believed they'd at least get a top 15, if not top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigredskin77 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I think we will be sending them the 32nd pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsniper1 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 The mock drafts take some time to update themselves, we had teh worst record of a playoff team, that is why they have us sending them the 21st pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 You can only move below teams with the same record UNLESS you make it to the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted January 11, 2006 Author Share Posted January 11, 2006 Wait, so if you make the playoffs...and face a team with a better record...and beat them. You still get a better draft pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbcbu Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Wait, so if you make the playoffs...and face a team with a better record...and beat them. You still get a better draft pick? The draft makes no differenct in the postseason. It is still based on records, unless you make it to the super bowl. The super bowl winner always picks last followed by the runner up. The rest is based on regular season records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cakmoney61 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 The draft makes no differenct in the postseason. It is still based on records, unless you make it to the super bowl. The super bowl winner always picks last followed by the runner up. The rest is based on regular season records. This is totally incorrect. A team's draft position, once in the playoffs, is based on where it exits the playoffs. If two teams exit the playoffs in the same round, the one with the worst regular season record will pick first. If they both had the same regular season record, the team with the easiest schedule would pick first. If the Redskins and Patriots lose this weekend, the Patriots would pick 25 and the Redskins would pick 26, because although they both finished the regular season 10-6, the Patriots had the weaker regular season schedule. The best pick the Broncos can get from the 'Skins right now is the 25th pick. If the 'Skins beat the Seahawks, it will go down to at best the 28th pick. If the 'Skins make it to the Super Bowl, the best Denver can get is the 31st pick, which would mean the 'Skins lost. Of course, we want Denver to have the 32 pick!!!!! :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 This is totally incorrect. A team's draft position, once in the playoffs, is based on where it exits the playoffs. If two teams exit the playoffs in the same round, the one with the worst regular season record will pick first. If they both had the same regular season record, the team with the easiest schedule would pick first.If the Redskins and Patriots lose this weekend, the Patriots would pick 25 and the Redskins would pick 26, because although they both finished the regular season 10-6, the Patriots had the weaker regular season schedule. The best pick the Broncos can get from the 'Skins right now is the 25th pick. If the 'Skins beat the Seahawks, it will go down to at best the 28th pick. If the 'Skins make it to the Super Bowl, the best Denver can get is the 31st pick, which would mean the 'Skins lost. Of course, we want Denver to have the 32 pick!!!!! :applause: I don't believe that is correct either. I believe that playoff exits are only relevant to teams that were tied to begin with. Therefore we will draft ahead of the Giants unless we make it to the Super Bowl, even though they have already been eliminated. TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETINGIf two or more clubs are tied in the selection order, the strength-of-schedule tie breaker is applied, subject to the following exceptions for playoff clubs: 1. The Super Bowl winner is last and the Super Bowl loser next-to-last. 2. Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie shall be assigned priority within its segment below that of non-playoff clubs and in the order that the playoff clubs exited from the playoffs. Thus, within a tied segment a playoff club that loses in the Wild-Card game will have priority over a playoff club that loses in the Divisional playoff game, which in turn will have priority over a club that loses in the Conference Championship game. If two tied clubs exited the playoffs in the same round, the tie is broken by strength of schedule. If any ties cannot be broken by strength of schedule, the divisional or conference tie breakers, whichever are applicable, are applied. Any ties that still exist are broken by a coin flip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 that deal as of right seems like a rip off. we basically gave them a worser pick in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant15fromNJ Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 This is a good mock draft http://www.football.com/draft/2006/mccollom_mock_draft.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cakmoney61 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I don't believe that is correct either. I believe that playoff exits are only relevant to teams that were tied to begin with. Therefore we will draft ahead of the Giants unless we make it to the Super Bowl, even though they have already been eliminated. Zen-like Todd I stand corrected...naked...and ashamed. :notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 This is a good mock draft http://www.football.com/draft/2006/mccollom_mock_draft.shtml If Elvis Dumervil is around in the second round when the Skins pick (as that mock says he will) I will be: 1.) a monkey's uncle 2.) pissed if the Skins pass on him 3.) ranting about how we passed on him for another fullback 4.) all of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexxrev Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Who cares! Its going to denver anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switchgear Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 You bolded the wrong part, ZLT 2. Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie shall be assigned priority within its segment below that of non-playoff clubs and in the order that the playoff clubs exited from the playoffs. Thus, within a tied segment a playoff club that loses in the Wild-Card game will have priority over a playoff club that loses in the Divisional playoff game, which in turn will have priority over a club that loses in the Conference Championship game. According to what the rules say, the draft order will look like this: 25 Divisional playoff Loser w/ 4th best record 26 Divisional playoff Loser w/ 3rd best record 27 Divisional playoff Loser w/ 2nd best record 28 Divisional playoff Loser w/ best record 29 Conference Championship Loser w/ worst record 30 Conference Championship Loser w/ best record 31 Super Bowl Loser 32 Super Bowl Winner If we lose this week, we would give Denver the 25th pick. If we win, the best they can get is the 29th pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l!ghtbringr Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 If Elvis Dumervil is around in the second round when the Skins pick (as that mock says he will) I will be:1.) a monkey's uncle 2.) pissed if the Skins pass on him 3.) ranting about how we passed on him for another fullback 4.) all of the above bust waiting to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryceb07 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 That was a really good mock draft. Although I will be pissed if Denver gets Vernon Davis with our pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMADD Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Last year, the Vikings, who finished 8-8 but made the playoffs, drafted before the Jaguars, who finished 9-7 and did not make the playoffs. Can we end this silly discussion now? Your draft position is decided by your regular season record, with two exceptions: (1) if you make it to the Superbowl, you'll draft either last or next to last, and (2) if your regular season record is tied with another team, your draft position is decided based on when you exited the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I think you answered why Minny picked after the Jags though - its because they made the playoffs. The only way the draft position is not based on regular season record is if: 1.) Team makes the playoffs with a worse regular season record than Team B (who doesn't make the playoffs). Team A then picks in the first position after the team with the best record who didn't make the playoffs (provided TEAM A doesn't go to the SB). 2.) Teams who should have picked earlier than 31 and 32 make the SB. This allowing those who were in 31/32 to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 You bolded the wrong part, ZLTAccording to what the rules say, the draft order will look like this: 25 Divisional playoff Loser w/ 4th best record 26 Divisional playoff Loser w/ 3rd best record 27 Divisional playoff Loser w/ 2nd best record 28 Divisional playoff Loser w/ best record 29 Conference Championship Loser w/ worst record 30 Conference Championship Loser w/ best record 31 Super Bowl Loser 32 Super Bowl Winner If we lose this week, we would give Denver the 25th pick. If we win, the best they can get is the 29th pick. Um, no I didn't. The part you bolded only applies to teams with identical regular season records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbcbu Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 You bolded the wrong part, ZLTAccording to what the rules say, the draft order will look like this: 25 Divisional playoff Loser w/ 4th best record 26 Divisional playoff Loser w/ 3rd best record 27 Divisional playoff Loser w/ 2nd best record 28 Divisional playoff Loser w/ best record 29 Conference Championship Loser w/ worst record 30 Conference Championship Loser w/ best record 31 Super Bowl Loser 32 Super Bowl Winner If we lose this week, we would give Denver the 25th pick. If we win, the best they can get is the 29th pick. No, ZLT is correct. Since we have a worse regular season record than NYG, Tampa, Cincy we will still pick ahead of them, unless we go to the SuperBowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Its not rocket science people - how far you advance in the playoffs has no impact on draft position unless you make the SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRMADD Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I think you answered why Minny picked after the Jags though - its because they made the playoffs Wake up, TEG. You've got it backwards. The Vikings, who made the playoffs, drafted 18th. The Jags, who didn't, drafted 21st. Minny drafted BEFORE the Jags. Get it now? The team with the better record drafted later, despite the fact that THEY DIDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. I feel like I should t-y-p-e s-l-o-w-e-r and in crayon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Doh! Duh! :doh: Me stooooopid. Well, at least we established that regular season record determines where you pick - not how far you advance in the playoffs (SB excluded). Here is to having denver using our pick #32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switchgear Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Yeah, my mistake. ZLT nailed it. We have the 22nd pick unless we make the superbowl. Correction, had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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