MartinC Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I don't know if anybody has noticed but Seattle's D had a real good year versus the run (gave up only 94.4 yards per carry which is better even then we did giving up 105 yards per game). Conversely they were very average against the pass giving up over 220 yards per game. I know that some of the above is down to their being ahead in many games and teams having to pass to catch up - but still. The conventional wisdom is we will come out and try to stuff Clinton Portis down their necks. I'm sure the game plan will feature Clinton as that is what has won us the last 6 in a row - however I wonder if we might not also try to open up the passing game a little early to both take advantage of their weakness and the fact that they will likely be walking a safety up into the box anticipating us looking to run on first and second down. If we can hit some thing early that will force them to play us honest and open some room for Portis to do is thing. Seattle has a good O - ranked second in the NFL in terms of yardage. While our D is likely the best they have faced all year and some of that yardage came against softer opposition we have to still anticipate they will move the ball and put some points up. We have to have better production offensivley than we have had the last couple of games to both put up some points AND keep their offense off the field. What do you think? HTTR Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleHawk Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 What do I think? You act like this will be a close game. The 'Skins are gonna scalp the #2 offense because our #9 D is SO much better than anything they've ever seen this year. As I've said in a previous post - Seattle has an OUTSIDE chance (very OUTSIDE) of scoring 26 pts against us. That means Brunell and company only need 27 for the victory. We scored over 30+ pts in our LAST THREE regular season games - and against tougher D's than Seattle. Victory is assured - I assure you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 i'm not sure they score 26 either. vs the 5 best D's they faced this year (all 18th in scoring or better), the most they scored was 24. vs the 3 best, they scored 17, 14, 13. the skins will be the best D they have played by far- better than we were the first time, i think. their D is a bit unknown, largely cuz they have played such horrible teams. san fran and tenn did almost beat them, though, scoring 24 and 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigredskin77 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Who cant have a top ranked offense playing San fran, Cardinals, and sorry rams twice a year. We played san fran once and our offense looked like the 99 rams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsbadd Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 All in all, if we don't get our passing game going at some point we will not make it to the show. If we get past Seattle we are not going to be able to gring it out against the Bears or Panthers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaSkinsFan2 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I don't know if anybody has noticed but Seattle's D had a real good year versus the run (gave up only 94.4 yards per carry which is better even then we did giving up 105 yards per game). Conversely they were very average against the pass giving up over 220 yards per game.I know that some of the above is down to their being ahead in many games and teams having to pass to catch up - but still. The conventional wisdom is we will come out and try to stuff Clinton Portis down their necks. I'm sure the game plan will feature Clinton as that is what has won us the last 6 in a row - however I wonder if we might not also try to open up the passing game a little early to both take advantage of their weakness and the fact that they will likely be walking a safety up into the box anticipating us looking to run on first and second down. If we can hit some thing early that will force them to play us honest and open some room for Portis to do is thing. Seattle has a good O - ranked second in the NFL in terms of yardage. While our D is likely the best they have faced all year and some of that yardage came against softer opposition we have to still anticipate they will move the ball and put some points up. We have to have better production offensivley than we have had the last couple of games to both put up some points AND keep their offense off the field. What do you think? HTTR Martin WOW...WITH 94.4 YARDS PER CARRY, WE SHOULD WIN VERY EASY.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYANJOHNXI Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 gave up only 94.4 yards per carry if it really is 94 yards per carry i think portis is in good shape to hit 1500 yrds in thsi game alone :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel22 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Absolutely -- "unknown" is the best way to describe their defense. As for their D against the run, please keep in mind that twice they were trying to stop Marcel shipp, frank gore, and a st louis team that absolutely refused to committ to the run all year. That is 6 games vs anemic running games and then you throw in games against Tenn, Houston, Philly.....that's NINE games ont their schedule against people who can't run the ball !! Compare that to us, facing: Tiki twice, a Dallas team committed to the run twice, and then games against Larry Johnson & Preist Holmes, Mike Anderson & Tatum Bell, Lamont Jordan, and Lanadian Tomlinson.......quite a difference !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 What do I think? You act like this will be a close game. The 'Skins are gonna scalp the #2 offense because our #9 D is SO much better than anything they've ever seen this year.As I've said in a previous post - Seattle has an OUTSIDE chance (very OUTSIDE) of scoring 26 pts against us. That means Brunell and company only need 27 for the victory. We scored over 30+ pts in our LAST THREE regular season games - and against tougher D's than Seattle. Victory is assured - I assure you! I admire your confidence and hope you are right! The first game against them came down to a field goal they missed (after some horrible coaching by Holmgren) and a field goal we made. 3 points. Now we are on the road with a long trip and they have had two weeks to rest. Seattle are a much better team at home than on the road. Yeah I do think it will be close - but I also think we CAN win but we have to play our A game both sides of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 if it really is 94 yards per carry i think portis is in good shape to hit 1500 yrds in thsi game alone :laugh: Opps ! Of course I meant to type per game ........ :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 Absolutely -- "unknown" is the best way to describe their defense. As for their D against the run, please keep in mind that twice they were trying to stop Marcel shipp, frank gore, and a st louis team that absolutely refused to committ to the run all year. That is 6 games vs anemic running games and then you throw in games against Tenn, Houston, Philly.....that's NINE games ont their schedule against people who can't run the ball !!Compare that to us, facing: Tiki twice, a Dallas team committed to the run twice, and then games against Larry Johnson & Preist Holmes, Mike Anderson & Tatum Bell, Lamont Jordan, and Lanadian Tomlinson.......quite a difference !! Agreed - that is the big unknow with the Hawks, with their soft schedule are they for real and how do they react under pressure against a good team. We have been battle tested all year. If we can get a lead like Saturday and play down hill it will be interesting to see how they handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins4ever Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 The Redskins offense is better overall than the offenses that the Seahawks have faced this season. Not taking anything away from their defense, but they are untested. Defensively we match up well against their offense. The key is shutting down Shaun Alexander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjmjr123 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Seattle has played crappy teams all year!!!!!!!!!! They get 6 easy wins in their division. Give me a break. We have played a tough as $hit schedule. Granted playing in Seattle will be tough, but our game experience, being in close games all year, i think helps us very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Absolutely -- "unknown" is the best way to describe their defense. As for their D against the run, please keep in mind that twice they were trying to stop Marcel shipp, frank gore, and a st louis team that absolutely refused to committ to the run all year. That is 6 games vs anemic running games and then you throw in games against Tenn, Houston, Philly.....that's NINE games ont their schedule against people who can't run the ball !!Compare that to us, facing: Tiki twice, a Dallas team committed to the run twice, and then games against Larry Johnson & Preist Holmes, Mike Anderson & Tatum Bell, Lamont Jordan, and Lanadian Tomlinson.......quite a difference !! i was just looking at the schedule and thinking the same thing. outside of portis, the best RB they played all year was tiki. he went off for 151 yards. in the same game, eli threw for 344. i dont like to take one game and use it as the norm, but when they had no other competition, how else can you tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttr77 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 What scares me about this game is that Tampa was able to stack the box last week and the Skins were unable to beat it, much like last year. And they didn't seem to be able to, or care to, adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuppajones Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I don't think we need to worry. The offense is going to have a big day. Gibbs and Williams are going to have this team firing on all cylinders in this game. Seattle better be ready for ST's rath as well, if someone comes across the middle they might be decapitated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 What scares me about this game is that Tampa was able to stack the box last week and the Skins were unable to beat it, much like last year. And they didn't seem to be able to, or care to, adapt. You didn't see something in that... ? Once we got into a 14-point lead, the Coach Gibbs said he stopped taking chances. You make a mistake against a Defense like Tampa's and they'll make you pay for it. Whille the execution wasn't always there, there was no way they were gonna' get away from the running game. Look how few pass attempts Mark Brunell made. That wasn't a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzah Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 I don't know if anybody has noticed but Seattle's D had a real good year versus the run (gave up only 94.4 yards per carry which is better even then we did giving up 105 yards per game). Conversely they were very average against the pass giving up over 220 yards per game.I know that some of the above is down to their being ahead in many games and teams having to pass to catch up - but still. The conventional wisdom is we will come out and try to stuff Clinton Portis down their necks. I'm sure the game plan will feature Clinton as that is what has won us the last 6 in a row - however I wonder if we might not also try to open up the passing game a little early to both take advantage of their weakness and the fact that they will likely be walking a safety up into the box anticipating us looking to run on first and second down. If we can hit some thing early that will force them to play us honest and open some room for Portis to do is thing. Seattle has a good O - ranked second in the NFL in terms of yardage. While our D is likely the best they have faced all year and some of that yardage came against softer opposition we have to still anticipate they will move the ball and put some points up. We have to have better production offensivley than we have had the last couple of games to both put up some points AND keep their offense off the field. What do you think? HTTR Martin I agree on a 1500 yard rushing game for Clinton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttr77 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 You didn't see something in that... ?Once we got into a 14-point lead, the Coach Gibbs said he stopped taking chances. You make a mistake against a Defense like Tampa's and they'll make you pay for it. Whille the execution wasn't always there, there was no way they were gonna' get away from the running game. Look how few pass attempts Mark Brunell made. That wasn't a coincidence. Sorry man, 17 plays for 26 yards in the second half? I don't think that was the plan. And when your lead is cut down to 7, it's not time to sit on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matador36 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Who cant have a top ranked offense playing San fran, Cardinals, and sorry rams twice a year. We played san fran once and our offense looked like the 99 rams. Good point, CP = over 2,000 yards in their division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvo14 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Most of these guys are mediocore running backs. Tiki lit them up for 150. Warrick Dunn only had 54 but the team rushed for 115 that game. Portis could've easily rushed for over 100, but if you remember that game we went away from portis and threw alot. Edgerrin James only played a half as Indy rested most of their starters. So I think their run defense is alright but not as good as the numbers show. Fred Taylor had 76 yards vs. us. 6th lowest of the season. Warrick Dunn had 54. LOWEST of the season. Clinton Portis had 90. 7th lowest of the season. Marcel Shipp had 41. 10th lowest of the season. Steven Jackson had 77. 9th lowest of the season. Domanick Davis had 40 yards. LOWEST of the season. Marion Barber had 95 yards. 10th lowest of the season. Marcel Shipp had 20. 4th lowest of the season. Steven Jackson had 70 yards. 8th lowest of the season. Kevan Barlow had 21 yards. 2nd lowest of the season. Tiki Barber had 151 yards (with overtime). 13th lowest of the season. Brian Westbrook had 17 yards. 3rd lowest of the season. Kevan Barlow had 33 yards. 4th lowest of the season. Chris Brown had 56 yards. 7th lowest of the season. Edgerrin James had 41 yards. 2nd lowest of the season. Noah Herron had 61 yards. Lowest of the season. FYI... I got this from the Seahawk fan site who were bragging about their run defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvo14 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 One more note. Seahawks passing defense is below average so why try and run when you can have success passing? So less run attempts and more passing, another reason for the skewed rusing defense numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyburd Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Does anyone remember the first game? We completely dominated 3 quarters. They came back in the 4th because we got conservative. I think we had our bad O game for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomadicSkinFan Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 One more note. Seahawks passing defense is below average so why try and run when you can have success passing? So less run attempts and more passing, another reason for the skewed rusing defense numbers. And don't forget. Teams that are playing from behind tend to abandon the run in an attempt to get back in the game. Looking at their schedule, they played ahead of the other team quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey17 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 The 94 yards per game is a deceiving statistic. They played 2 games against Arizona who couldn't muster a running attack against a Pop Warner team. They also played many games against substandard competition that fell behind early and abandoned the running game. I am confident we will be able to rush effectively against the Hawks. :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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