Fantastic Refs

[Brown_Hornet]

when they added the "football move" to the rulebook they also revamped endzone touchdowns..

you must have possession of the ball when you hit the ground. the 2 foot rule applies when you make a catch and stay upright.

Aren't you "upright" by definition if you have both feet down and control of the ball.

The new rule is fine but is to be used when a receiver is relying on a part of the body other than 2 feet down, to qualify as "being down".

The only way to rule this play incomplete is to state that he didn't have control of the ball when his 2 feet were down....I believe that he did, in fact, have control of the football.

[Brown_Hornet]

bubba, I didn't lose so you can stop that ish.

I understand why the Lavar play was not reviewed, that didn't make it a good call.

Scoreboard, that's funny.

[Burgold]

Read an article in the Post today where the Bucs players were saying that they were living and dying by the refs this year. Calls kept breaking their way and making the other team lose. Something like four calls creating four buc victories. That noncatch was really close. By rule, it wasn't a catch. The Alstott run was really close, but by visual evidence he never got in. Moral is, if you need the close call get it in the playoffs and not during the regular season.

Fantastic refs? Who knows. They seemed to let both teams play for the most part. No ticky tack holds or interferences changing the game. Then again, who knows? Maybe the reason we could never get a pass off was because of constant illegal contacts? Only the guys with the tape or at the game itself would know.

[dombrowsky21]

Ya at 1st I was getting so mad at the sean taylor call but then when i had an exlpanation and all the other close calls later in the game that went the right way itn shoulda gone and i noticed that the refs werent nearly as abd as last bucs game

[SoCalRedskinFan]

You are wrong with regards to the football move. This is a very vague part of the rule and was incorrectly called yesterday. If a player has possession, 2 feet down, in the endzone...it's a TD.

The reffs blew the call on the field and there was no way that they were overturning it on replay.

Count your blessings, good win for the Skins, but don't be ignorant and suggest that Tampa wasn't screwed.

You know one thing I am tired of is you TROLLS coming here and saying Skin fans wine about "bad calls".....then

you have the sack to come and do the very same thing you accuse us of doing.....well you know what payback is...right?

P.S. Apparently Bubba has you in his sights right now so from what I've seen in the past you better just gracefully bow out before he unloads

H T T R:logo:

[Thirtyfive2seven]

I love it how in the pre-game interviews with the coaches, Jon Gruden said, "Instant replay, you're my best friend"

I wonder how he feels about it now. Is there a video somewhere of him saying that?? I would LOVE to have that as a sig

[bubba9497]

Aren't you "upright" by definition if you have both feet down and control of the ball.

The new rule is fine but is to be used when a receiver is relying on a part of the body other than 2 feet down, to qualify as "being down".

The only way to rule this play incomplete is to state that he didn't have control of the ball when his 2 feet were down....I believe that he did, in fact, have control of the football.

http://www.buccaneers.com/news/newsdetail.aspx?newsid=4415

from the Buccaneers own website

First, Rule 8, Section 1, Article 7, Supplemental Note 5:

A pass is completed or intercepted, or a loose ball is recovered, if the player inbounds would have landed inbounds with both feet but is carried or pushed out of bounds while in possession of the ball in the air or before the second foot touches the ground inbounds by an opponent. The player must maintain possession of the ball when he lands out of bounds.

Second, Rule 3, Section 38:

A Touchdown is the situation in which any part of the ball, legally in possession of a player inbounds, is on, above or behind the opponent’s goal line (plane), provided it is not a touchback.

So the first rule establishes your player inbounds, Drew, and the second rule gives him a touchdown. The ball is in fact, spotted where the force-out occurred, it’s just that we have to remember that the spot relates to where the ball is (as long as it’s legally in a player’s possession) and not where the player’s feet are. Therefore, it’s important that the player gets the ball across the goal line before he goes out of bounds, because the spot is going to be where the ball was when he crossed the sideline.

One thing the Answer Man also has to point out from the first rule above. It is critical that the receiver maintains possession of the ball when he hits the ground. A drop, or even a bobble, will invalidate the catch. While the ‘ground can’t cause a fumble,’ as we’ve all heard a million times, it can cause an incomplete pass. Any time a player catches a ball in the air, then lands on the ground, he must maintain possession when he hits the ground, even if it’s out of bounds, or the pass is incomplete. So, in your scenario, the receiver could do everything else right and be about to score a touchdown, but lose it if he bobbles the ball when he hits the ground. That’s true even in the case of a force-out, as several notes in the Rulebook explicitly spell out.

[bubba9497]

bubba, I didn't lose so you can stop that ish.

I understand why the Lavar play was not reviewed, that didn't make it a good call.

Scoreboard, that's funny.

Whatever, by the way your whinning it as if you where a buc fan, I guess you just hate the Redskins then... either way you are wrong.

LaVAr's elbow was down anyways... but if he was ruled down by contact.. then it's the call. period Once that whistle blows... anything that happens afterwards is a moot point, as far as possession is concerned. hollar it was a bad call, good call whatever is pointless.

[28rdsknsfn28]

I would agree with this with one exception. Pittman HIT Taylor. All the excuses, explainations, and/or reasons in the world do not change that fact. It happened