codeorama Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 I read in the Print edition of the sporting news that a lot of major league baseball players sought out this guy at Penn State that is considered the foremost authority on steroids. The guy (I cant remember his name) said that the players are offering him money to tell them how to beat the steroid tests. He declined, but said that steroids are in ALL the major sports. He listed the reasons as being that there are steroids that can be swept out of you system in 2 days and others that when taken with masking agents will not appear in the tests. I thought it was very interesting. My brother played 6 years in the minors and I can name a ton of big leaguers that I personally know that are on steroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeCarl Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 Just read the same article. It was pretty emphatic that, because of masking and the nature of the drugs, testing was of virtually no value. A negative test really means nothing. So why bother until science gives a more reliable test? It's officially a non-issue in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted August 22, 2002 Author Share Posted August 22, 2002 Yeah,,,,,, I'm with you there. The part of it that's a shame is that there are a ton of players that don't use steroids that are basically discreminated against. They are forced with the choice of abusing their bodies or not making the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 But if it takes 2 days to sweep it out of your system - what happens when RANDOM tests are done? Exactly. Maybe my eyes are only partially open - but the 50-75% claims that these retired broken down baseball players are talking about is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted August 22, 2002 Author Share Posted August 22, 2002 The article says that if players know they are going to be randomly checked, they will use the appropriate measure to make sure they don't get caught. The most common according to this guy is that the players use them all through the off season and then quit a week before spring training. One thing I know for a fact.... In the minor leagues, the players are drug tested, but team monitors the results. They only do something to the offenders if they want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaudry Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 Codorama, well name the names. I want to hear who is juicing! I just hope that Sammy is clean. Otherwise, well that would suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redman Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Then you can random test in the offseason too. Yes, that's more difficult, but after all it's the threat of the testing that's important. Also, MLB should institute a policy that says that any player who is found to be using or have used steroids will have his career statistics wiped from the record books and is persona non grata at all league events. I'm convinced that Barry Bonds is using them, and I think all of his glorious records are absolutely bogus as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 I'm convinced that Barry Bonds is using them, and I think all of his glorious records are absolutely bogus as a result. No doubt. And anybody that thinks McGwire wasn't is fooling themselves. He was so full of juice it looked like he was about to explode. Pretty soon baseball will be over and done with anyway. Let 'em strike, filthy drug using jizzbags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaffeen Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 A little OT on the OT, but Steroids are just one stop on the evolutionary ladder (I'm not condoning the use of them, but they are inevitable). Mankind has always had a desire to improve upon the original design. What are we gonna do with all those records when cybernetics and biomedical engineering collide? When we are half machine, half human? When genetic engineering is common practice? The day is coming and is sooner than you think. What happens to sports when our brains are aided by quantam chip implants that allow us to process billions of calculations per second? When our body has more metal than flesh? When we are all exactly equal physically and mentally? To me, these are much more interesting questions. Besides baseball sucks :puke: hmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted August 23, 2002 Author Share Posted August 23, 2002 I think Bonds, McGuire and Sosa as well as 50% are using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShredder Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Everybody in Pro Sports has considered using Steroids and the majority try them. The smaller majority would be suspected of utilizing the benefits of performance enhancing drugs. The ones that dont take them are the minority. There are test out there that will determine the amount of androgenic hormones that are in your system, without the capability to mask test results. The thing is, nobody will allow that kind of testing for a number of reasons. The main reason would be that they would have to drawl blood and nobody is going to allow that for testing purposes only. Usually a Fit For Duty program includes an accross the board screen, with positive results confirmed with additional, more accurate values. The testing that the players are consenting to is a urine screen and is very maskable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryman of the North Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 ive said it before and ill say it again 95% of pro athletes use the others are freaks of nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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