Commander Adama Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 After watching Moss and Patten on Friday's game, I was truly impressed. Santana not only had blazing speed, but fought for every yard after the catch. Some very nice spin moves, and going for the extra yards even though he was going to be hit. The same with Patten. They worked hard on every play. One big pet peeve of mine is when Halfbacks and Wide Receivers head out of bounds when they are going to be hit. I can understand if they are trying to stop the gameclock, but any other time is just it's just a half-hearted attempt. In the Pitt game, they fought for every yard and took the hits to get extra yardage. I can't wait to see Taylor Jacobs and Kevin Dyson out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chow184 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 kevin dyson=meh taylor jacobs=yay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Complete Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 If you ask some Jets fans, they will tell you that the "spin move" is about the only "move" he's got, and that it gets old. Of course, they only said this after he's no longer a Jet. If you look at his past highlights though, the guy does do it very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orlskinsfan Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 i think many reporters will be eating some crow about stating the skins receiver corp is less talented than last years group...i watched some of the jets game this past weekend and coles will was quick on the straight running his cuts just didnt look right..me thinks that big toe is still not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoGiK Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Dyson dropped a pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimster Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 If you ask some Jets fans, they will tell you that the "spin move" is about the only "move" he's got, and that it gets old. Of course, they only said this after he's no longer a Jet. If you look at his past highlights though, the guy does do it very often. the same one's who said he was better than Coles too, right? ...until now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Complete Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 the same one's who said he was better than Coles too, right? ...until now Exactly! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsniper1 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I really like our WRs, much better then last years crap of not holding onto the ball. Although I did see Dyson couldn't handle the high pass while being hit. Moss and Patten seem to be a great fit to our offensive scheme, as we see it so far through preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sith lord Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I always thought this years crop of recievers were better than last years. We have speed, which we didn't have last year. And we have recievers that can make plays and run after the catch, unlike last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger35 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Good quote by Aikman was that Ramsey needs to figure out that with these recievers he doesn't have to throw it 40 yards to have a 40 yard completion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
825patb Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 So far i am happy with what I've seen in Moss and Patten. But let's be honest, if either guy goes down with an injury, the Skins do not have a legitimate passing game. James Thrash would not start for any other team in the league. I find it increasingly difficult to put so much emphasis on QB play when the Skins have the worst TEs in the league and one of the worst receiving units. Yes, i like Moss, Patten, and even Brown...but after that the drop off is steep. Dyson is a joke. Mike Williams would have been a nice addition, not to mention Heath Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Complete Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 So far i am happy with what I've seen in Moss and Patten. But let's be honest, if either guy goes down with an injury, the Skins do not have a legitimate passing game. James Thrash would not start for any other team in the league.I find it increasingly difficult to put so much emphasis on QB play when the Skins have the worst TEs in the league and one of the worst receiving units. Yes, i like Moss, Patten, and even Brown...but after that the drop off is steep. Dyson is a joke. Mike Williams would have been a nice addition, not to mention Heath Miller. Hey now, don't forget Taylor Jacobs. If he can stay healthy that is. Coach and the staff have had nothing but good things to say about the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggeesmoove Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 The speed is a LOVELY addition! The thing that I worry about is the possibility of them wearing down after a while.....I think of the hit that Ray-Ray put on Coles last year - how many of those can our smallish-receivers take, and still get the job done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sith lord Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 So far i am happy with what I've seen in Moss and Patten. But let's be honest, if either guy goes down with an injury, the Skins do not have a legitimate passing game. James Thrash would not start for any other team in the league. Yeah, but every team has that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Deadman Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Let's remember, Thrash was a starter for the Eagles (matter of fact he was the #1 WR) and they did with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Thrash is a great piece to our puzzle. I would be less scared with Thrash stepping in in the case of an injury than Darkerian! Thrash get a lot of crap around here for a guy who does nothing but work. He's got good hands and he takes advantage of every opportunity he is given. We need more Thrash's in this world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
825patb Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Hey now, don't forget Taylor Jacobs. If he can stay healthy that is. Coach and the staff have had nothing but good things to say about the guy. I'm not forgetting about Jacobs. He is an average NFL receiver with a propensity for injuries. He is average. When i look at other teams rosters, I see several legitimate playmakers amidst the TE and WRs. Just look at the Giants. I'm not here to blow sunshine up anyone's behind. I like Patten a lot. But one injury to this unit and we're right back to running the ball all game and throwing quick hitch passes. Chris Cooley is a nice complimentary player, but this team is not good enough to throw the ball (in the regular season) the way they have thus far (in the preseason) as evidenced by all the turnovers. Again, adding a Mike Williams or a Heath Miller to this offense makes a big difference. Ask yourself: did the Redskins forsee cutting McCants back on draft day? If not (which i imagine they didn't) then their decision to pass on another playmaker was justified. However, that was a mistake because McCants is now off to another team and the Redskins are short on redzone receivers. Portis is really going to have to step it up as a receiver downfield. Something I think he is more than capable of doing after what i saw last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budski Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I noticed they do alot of that "catch the ball" thing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 So far i am happy with what I've seen in Moss and Patten. But let's be honest, if either guy goes down with an injury, the Skins do not have a legitimate passing game. James Thrash would not start for any other team in the league.I find it increasingly difficult to put so much emphasis on QB play when the Skins have the worst TEs in the league and one of the worst receiving units. Yes, i like Moss, Patten, and even Brown...but after that the drop off is steep. Dyson is a joke. Mike Williams would have been a nice addition, not to mention Heath Miller. In 2 posts out of 2 posts I have read by you, it was complaining about Mike Williams. It's ok 825patb, you go through the grieving process as long as you want. You're almost to the last stage, which is acceptance. As far as Heath Miller is concerned: Chris Cooley > Heath Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek1973 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 In 2 posts out of 2 posts I have read by you, it was complaining about Mike Williams. It's ok 825patb, you go through the grieving process as long as you want. You're almost to the last stage, which is acceptance. As far as Heath Miller is concerned: Chris Cooley > Heath Miller. :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted August 29, 2005 Author Share Posted August 29, 2005 Thrash is a great piece to our puzzle. I would be less scared with Thrash stepping in in the case of an injury than Darkerian! Thrash get a lot of crap around here for a guy who does nothing but work. He's got good hands and he takes advantage of every opportunity he is given. We need more Thrash's in this world! Totally agree about Thrash. :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
825patb Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Yeah, but every team has that problem. Most teams have one fo the following: Above average QB Above average WRs Above average TEs Unfortunately, the Skins do not have any of these. Take Detroit, they have above average WRs, so do the Giants, Raiders, Cardinals, Rams... Atlanta, Green Bay, Minnesota, Philly... all have above average QBs. Some teams have more than one of the above like Indy, the Chiefs, Seattle, San Diego, New England. All of these teams throw the ball better than the Skins because they have some edge whether it be better receivers, wideouts, TEs, whatever. Just keep this in mind before you try to evaluate the QBs because they're fighting an up-hill battle given the weapons in the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateCitySkin Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 It is obvious that the coaching staff weighed the pros and cons of have having a TE and WR and both times came up looking towards filling holes in the defense. We don't need a high power offense to win. We just need an offense that doesn't cause turnovers and can run down the clock. Gibbs and Williams are playing towards our strengths (defense) on a proven model (ravens). Wear down their defense, keep ours fresh and hopefully score a touchdown or two through the running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
825patb Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Gibbs and Williams are playing towards our strengths (defense) on a proven model (ravens). Wear down their defense, keep ours fresh and hopefully score a touchdown or two through the running game. if this is the model, then don't expect much from Ramsey. Don't expect Drew Bledsoe because he simply doesn't have the supporting cast. Expect Trent Dilfer if that's the model. Personally, i think they thought McCants would come through as a redzone target and that was a mistake. The Skins were terrible in the redzone last year, and I don't see how that has been improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sith lord Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Most teams have one fo the following:Above average QB Above average WRs Above average TEs Unfortunately, the Skins do not have any of these. Take Detroit, they have above average WRs, so do the Giants, Raiders, Cardinals, Rams... Atlanta, Green Bay, Minnesota, Philly... all have above average QBs. Some teams have more than one of the above like Indy, the Chiefs, Seattle, San Diego, New England. All of these teams throw the ball better than the Skins because they have some edge whether it be better receivers, wideouts, TEs, whatever. Just keep this in mind before you try to evaluate the QBs because they're fighting an up-hill battle given the weapons in the offense. True, but you can still win with an average QB and average recievers. 2000 Ravens anyone? Actually, I think our recievers are a little better than average. All you need is a good O-Line and a good defense and everything else will fall into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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