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  1. The situation is not what I’m focusing on here, it’s that throughout the article he constantly undermines his own points, or introduces meaningless information. Snyder’s ability or inability to get a stadium deal done is not a focus presented. Instead, it throws out the idea that a new owner can increase revenue. Once you have that however, you can not simply say he can also in turn deliver a DC based stadium deal in his words “pretty easily”. The two points are contradictory. By reducing the available sites in consideration, you will reduce the amount of competition for your services. Like a Free Agent, the less teams that are in on you the less you are worth, regardless of whether the owner is liked. Mullin’s raised the financial issue himself and then undermined his own argument. He also did this in the same paragraph, which is impressive. Mullin’s is trying to have his cake and eat it too. You can’t state that a new owner will boost revenue, than follow by saying he will take a hit by pigeon holing the new stadium deal to the DC area. He makes sure to let you know the NFL did not like Wash’s old name, but says himself “The name is not an issue anymore” He says Snyder was safer in the past due to the revenue he made, by this organization is still one of the NFLs biggest. If the owners never liked him in the past, we don’t need to know that he continues to be disliked. Its pointless information that does not add to the situation. And this writer spent half the article beating this point over the heads of the reader. He does not indicate what will happen in his piece. He does not indicate what should happen either. All he states is what could happen, and in the most non-committal way possible. The majority of the arguments he proposes, he shot down himself. By solving its own issues, all it does is circle jerk the reader. This article was not opinion, or news. This was pure click bait with an incendiary title designed by someone who did five mins of research on the subject. I’ve seen good articles on the problems Snyder faces, likely some of the one’s you yourself posted. But this one? It is terrible. I am amazed the editor let it through in this state. It’s got more holes in it than I have in my left arm. (Zombie Pun)
  2. He makes a statement regarding lack of support from the other owners for years in the first half of the article, but claims it is an important factor in the second half. For a very long time, Snyder has been on the outside of other owners and Goodell, with only one ally in Jones. Now he continues to have a lack of support from other owners. In other words, the status quo has not changed. At all. Furthermore, Snyder does not even need the direct support of other owners. As long as they sit on their hands and stay silent, that is best case scenario for Snyder, and by all means they have. If the argument that the owners don’t like Snyder puts him in line for dismissal, it’s a bad argument. Then there is the financials and the stadium. While it is still possible for us to move to DC under Snyder, (especially after the name change) any franchise will locate to whoever gives them the best deal. If another location gives them the gambling rights, and pays for a large chunk of the new building, I don’t care who the owner is, the team will choose that other location. That is less on the owner and more on what the various districts are willing to give up, and Wash will likely have several areas playing against each other. If DC is not willing to meet those demands w/ Snyder, unless a new guy does not want gambling, I don’t see their offer changing very much in the wake of new ownership. If making as much money as possible is as much of an issue as the writer implies, it starts with taking maximum advantage of any area willing to throw cash your way. And if the second main argument is that the guy who was untouchable before because he was bringing in lots of money, is still making you top 10 money today, then again, that is not a very strong argument, even if we are trending downward. The lack of support has not changed. Any owner will choose the best financial stadium deal, so purely focusing on a DC location would go against the very monetary argument he himself presented. Any owner can choose a new name as we already transitioning, so that has no impact either. The writer chose the absolute worst areas to focus on, just so he can tell people what they want to hear.
  3. Baaaaaiiiiittttt Get me a pole and this article and I'll have everything I'll need to go fishing. A few of you seemed to like it tho. What did you guys see in that article? I thought it was terrible. Mullin's dismantles his whole argument as many of the points that made Snyder safe in the beginning of the article are still applicable at the end. A new owner can bring a new team name, and a stadium in DC... But wait, Snyder can too A new owner will be beloved an bring in money... But wait, we are currently a top 10 franchise in the league Worse of all he put the odds at 50-50. Didn't even commit to anything. The only thing of value I read was that Snyder was currently weak politically, making him more vulnerable. Aristotle level insight right there. That article felt like a waste of my time. I've seen 6 or 7 posters here make better cases in half the characters
  4. Lucky you. Sounds like you won out in this scenario I don't even see draft picks. Fine and suspension. Mandated sensitivity training. League oversight of Wash HR for a while so they can look like they are doing something
  5. I see what you’re getting at, but I think many of those reasons would have the polar opposite effect. A.) The fact that Wash is a big market helps Snyder more than it hurts. Owner’s are not equal. The fact that Snyder is in charge of one of the NFLs most valuable franchises gives him more power and leverage. I would bet that it is far easier to subjugate the owner of a small market team, then a large one. While these team’s revenue share for the most part, I guarantee these owners know who is contributing what to the pot. B.) Sure it’s a new day and age, but all of those outside factors will mask this organizations plight. How much focus is this scandal going to pull going forward? The games will be first and foremost. Then you have the Pandemic. Then you have the racial justice initiatives. Then you have the election initiatives. What about that new team name? This scandal is already buried 5 stories deep and we haven’t even looked at Rivera’s cancer treatment, possible injuries and more. There is so much going on it will be difficult for this story to get any limelight. C.) I’d argue the existence of 50 cases gives the women all the credibility they need, but that is a mute point. D.) Unfortunately, the other owners don’t need to support Snyder in any way shape or form. The best thing they can do (for themselves) is sit back, stay quiet and do nothing. If this thing blows over, and Snyder keeps his team, there will be a new precedent set in the opposite direction on how to get rid of an owner. Snyder getting through this storm would make every other owner stronger, as it makes them even more invulnerable. That would be in their best interest. (Again, just them personally, not morally/legally) I’d bet dollars to donuts that the NFLs TV ratings will juggernaut this year. Nobodies owner is gonna care too much about bad press when the League is in the middle of a record year. Since the owner’s have massive motivation to sit on their hands, the only real force that can break the ice and encourage change are the sponsors. As we are a week away from the season, I’m not sure how many companies want to miss out on what will likely be record viewership. From a business standpoint, this is a terrible time to leave.
  6. Man, the timing on this was TV piece was absolutely terrible. On top of featuring old news, this whole thing is going to get buried as the football season approaches. Once teams start cutting players wholesale, it will be hard for this to gain any real traction. We saw the countless articles Fornette’s releases spawned. It will be 10x worse when you add even more recognizable names to the cut pile. Then a week from now, games are starting. Good luck getting people’s attention then. This could have really made an impact if it was put together in a shorter time frame, but the wait plus the league news points to signs that this is going to get blown over hard.
  7. Hmmm…. I’ll keep that in mind. Maybe I’ll only do some posts. Use it as a pick me up on days I’m feeling rotten (Zombie pun, I could not help it. I will take what you said seriously and dial it back tho.) I think timing is very important. If you have to wait months or even years for court cases to process, anger will dissipate. Its hard to stay passionate for that long. Futhermore if Snyder can buy a plea bargain where he claims no responsibility, it would be hard to hold these things against him. It would be amazingly difficult to out an owner over a court case. You need a raw nerve to stimulate change, not a simmering pot. Tying Snyder directly to any of this would be big, but without it, not only do I not see fire around booting the owner, there is no smoke. Furthermore if you can’t prove it without a court case, where he could probably buy his way out, he aint going nowhere.
  8. 1.) Yes. It is something I try to incorporate in all of my posts. It serves as both a brain teaser for myself and a way to prevent me from spamming as I will only try to comment if I have something to contribute to the conversation. Otherwise I blow a bad joke or pun. Let’s call it my Raison Death-tra. (Haha, I think that one goes in my top 10!) 2.) I think you would need proof that it exists and that Snyder had a direct hand in it. Otherwise it will just be thrown on the pile of the previous bad culture and won’t hurt Snyder much at all. Unfortunately, that still might not be enough as we have been exposed to the story now. If it does not grow in severity, it will not have the same impact as “Fresh news”. People will become numb to it and there will be less outrage. Time will have this effect as well. If we are simply regurgitated the same story three months from now, there will be more “We already knew that” and less “That’s Outrageous!” Similar to how more women continue to come forward. When you have 50 charges against you, public opinion isn’t really going to get any worse. Your throwing water into the ocean. Any sponsor or person who supports you is not thinking 50 is where I draw the line. What is worse would be a Donald Streling scenario. Something (likely in the moment) that is so vile that all players, sponsors and the league can turn on him immediately w impunity or w/o retribution for themselves, and receive pats on the back for doing so. These cases usually culminate within days, so the fact that we are at the weeks/months area with our own case tells me the current charges are unlikely to lead to the Sterling outcome.
  9. Burleson gave Chase a vote for DPOY. What rookie has ever gotten praise like that? That is insanity. The weight on this kids' shoulders is immense. Zombie's ankles would have shattered from the strain ages ago.
  10. @TD_washingtonredskins When there are 50 claims against a team, I don’t believe anyone would need to wait it out for more deets before making a choice on whether to stay on as a sponsor. Unless they were all visited by Zombies and are now sans brain. The tapes and who requested them and the subject of many of the harassment claims would fall under information we don’t have yet. If we learn more and its worse than we are hearing now, that would certainly add gasoline to the fire, but at this point it is purely accusation and speculation, which as we are seeing first hand, is clearly not enough to give an owner the boot. I’m looking at the current landscape, and based off what we know now there has been little to no action taken that really threatens Snyder’s ownership in any way shape or form. If you believe that the further reveal of horrible wrongdoings will lead to increased pressure for his removal, I am 100% with you on that. All I’m saying is that that pressure has yet to substantially manifest in a meaningful way within our current environment, and is unlikely to manifest by all important metrics, unless there is more to the story. Otherwise, it already would have happened
  11. Its not being ignored, and it is a gigantic story. Bigger than that one time someone saw a Zombie ignore a fresh brain just sitting on the sidewalk. I find it hard to believe that all this is enough to remove an owner however. If this is indeed enough, why have the sponsors not pulled yet? What more do they need to hear? Why has there been no owner vote? What more do they need to see? If this was enough, something would have happened by now, but no real domino has fallen. I think you are looking at this like Snyder is someone who can simply be fired. He can’t. He is far more entrenched as an owner than the CEO of any company. It takes a lot more to remove him from his post. I don’t deny the situation’s ugliness, but I fail to see any real tangible actions that have been taken that can lead to Snyder’s removal. Many owner’s have had criminal cases against them. Many owners currently are on trial for cases. Many owners were guilty. Many owners kept their teams. There is not a lot different in this scenario. Owners have had to pay large sums of money for their crimes. That is nothing new either. The only way this dude leaves is if every sponsor pulls, or he does/did something personally that is so bad every owner can have a vote w/ complete impunity. Seeing as how the sponsors have yet to drop, and there is no discussion of a vote… I see no removal on the horizon. If we learn more or a domino falls, sure a pathway opens up, but that has yet to happen.
  12. I don’t think the lawyers are much of a threat. Whoever those lawyers are, they will not be as big and bad as the ones employed by Snyder. He will have the best available. I doubt we see a mass exodus of sponsors either. If the sponsors were going to pull, they likely would have done so by now. No need to wait for accusation 51. The other owners will not vote him out. No NFL owner has ever been voted out. The other owners will never do something that will collectively make themselves more vulnerable. I don’t believe he can be pressured to sell. He has already faced and resisted this pressure from his own people for some time. Without something new, or something we don’t know about yet, we simply are not at the tipping point in terms of giving Snyder the boot. Maybe the investigation changes that, but I’m not sure what that can tell us that all these women have not already. The longer this takes, the better this is for Snyder as well. Without more gasoline on the fire, there just is not enough here at this point. It is going to require something bigger to force Snyder out. I’m talking zombie apocalypse big.
  13. There really is not much to defend. I will continue to support the team, and based off what we know right now I see little to no chance that Snyder is removed from his position. That is about all there is to it for me. Even though as a Zombie I can choose to fight and die on multiple hills, I don’t see a path to daylight at the end of this boot Snyder warpath.
  14. Bone crushing goodness for those that want it That Gnom would make a zombie proud
  15. Man, I can see the angles, but I just don’t buy all this Bezos stuff. Dude is stupid rich. So rich he has zero need to play the long game. I’m pretty sure he has more money than every other owner combined. If he wants a team that badly, he can just walk up to any owner and triple their net worth. Unless he specifically wants our team (Its close to HQ2, bring clients to home games!) It all feels like unnecessary beating around the bush. Sure, he’d pay more money to acquire a team, but he likely would have made a lot of it back by now with his Amazon stock explosion for having a partner like the NFL and the likelihood of stadium name deal on the way. He honestly might be too rich to be an owner. We would not be his top priority. Zombie’s like to be noticed. Bezos will straight Scrooge Mcduck.
  16. "Overkill is underrated." That quote is the bane of all zombie kind. Its also true for the removal of owners
  17. If bad PR can get rid of an owner, Snyder would have gotten the boot 10x over by now. Nothing changes if more people come forward. His reputation is at zero. What’s it gonna do, go into the negatives? Unless he himself does something (or has done something) He is pretty safe. Kraft on the other hand, was not just caught up in a prostitution sting, but a human trafficking sting. Depending on the surrounding cases and his own, there is a real possibility that you would be able to directly connect Kraft to supporting human trafficking. You want an ugly look? Think about the articles that show how an owner is empowering the human trafficking trade. Prostitution and Human Trafficking is not the same. In prostitution, one party pays another. In human trafficking, someone is FORCED into labor/sexual/physical things. Human trafficking is slavery. I don’t believe that is an image the NFL wants and if it comes down to it, that is the kind of megaton bomb that will force a vote. All it takes is one journalist to play the “Kraft supported slavery card”. He’d be done. No chance at coming back as a zombie either.
  18. Tell that to Kraft, Isray and an endless list of NFL owners. Dudes have been charged with felonies. You need a megaton Bomb. Absolute overkill. Double tap in a single blow
  19. The NFL has never, I repeat never, voted out an owner. It is a shiny red button that is never to be touched. It is an empty threat. The other owners will not take a measure that makes themselves more vulnerable unless there is no recoil to themselves. It would take a Donald Sterling level catastrophe to push the other owners to that length. As of what we know now, we are not there. Not even close. In a world where they give Snyder the boot, things that are currently not a smoking gun, will become a smoking gun. Its that simple. You would be adding to the "how to get an owner canned" playbook. If we are in a world with more eyes and more scrutiny, that gives the owners even more incentive to sit back and do nothing, as it protects their own skin. This would be the absolute worst time to make themselves more vulnerable by setting precedent on the removal of an owner. The owners won’t stand to have a commissioner who politics them to remove another owner, so Goddell won’t push the issue either. The NFL gets rid of unwanted owners by pressuring the to sell, but by all accounts, Snyder has been facing internal pressure for some time and that has not yielded any kind of result. In fact, minority owners have tried to sell their stakes. Unless more comes out, and there are things that directly implicate Snyder himself, dude is going nowhere. Sad, but that is the most likely scenario. I’d shed a tear, if my tear ducts still worked that is.
  20. This is not just a slippery slope, this is a black ice covered drastic incline. If you believe that other owners will give Snyder the boot for what is mostly a bunch of sexual harassment claims (the severity of which does not matter) that have been collected over numerous years, I think you have another thing coming. Give me a dart board of large corporations or NFL teams, and I guarantee a blind guy can hit one that has accrued at least 10 or so harassment cases. Here is a scenario in a world where owners have tossed Snyder aside: Women feel empowered to share their stories after the WaPo articles. 10 women come forward against NFL Team X for cases over the last… 20 years. The severity of this harassment is irrelevant as the headline is all that matters. Now that owner is facing the threat of removal because precedence has been set on the matter. That is not hard to envision for any massive company or organization. Even if it’s not as many cases, you have at least opened the door to the possibility and started a conversation because of what happened to Snyder. If 40+ is enough to get the boot. What about 20? 10? 5? No owner will willingly open that window. There is laughing in the face of danger and then there is spitting into that same face. So many owner’s would be in hot water in that kind of world. You would have to be a legit Zombie to have any hope of surviving that environment, The Patriots origination is constantly facing scrutiny, it just gets overshadowed by their success. They have been punished by the league and nationally crushed for what, 4 cheating scandals? Every other year we gotta talk about some kind of Patriots “gate” story. The have created a culture that both accepted, and continues to accept dirty tactics at every level. That starts at the top, and permeates the entire operation. The owner even personally adds to the problem. On top of being in a feud with the Commish, Kraft is in actual ongoing legal trouble over prostitution. Wash is not the only team creating massive levels negativity on a near constant basis.
  21. Regardless of the reason, every time an owner is given the boot, you are adding to the playbook on how to make such a thing happen. It is in every owner’s best interest to keep that playbook as small as possible, as the things within it could be used against them at a later date. To get rid of an owner, every other owner has to basically collectively make themselves more vulnerable. Even if the owners don’t like a guy, it would take a tremendous bomb to force the other owners to take action. They won’t make themselves less secure unless they absolutely have to. There has been 1(?) accusation against Snyder himself. The rest is running an organization that is hostile towards women. If that is enough to lose your team, I guarantee you that a whole lot of other owners would begin to sweat buckets considering how women are treated in the workplace across the country, not just in the NFL. How many of these franchises have never had a sexual harassment claim? At what number is it enough to call for an owners head? No Owner is opening themselves up to those questions unless they have to. Otherwise there would be a absolute ton of dead men walking. (Zombie Pun) It does not matter how they stack up compared to Snyder. The dominoes are all in a row, and it only takes a single bump to cause a chain reaction
  22. There is no rule against being a bad owner. They are in a position of immense power and are protected by an incredibly strong union in the form of the other owners. Unless you can connect them directly and prove some kind of truly reprehensible behavior, they are going nowhere. On top of that, the effected party will likely have to be in a position of power to force their expulsion. Jim Irsay has been arrested over DWIs and possession of schedule IV drugs. He still gets to own his team. Robert Kraft has been arrested for legit prostitution charges. He still gets to own his team. A bunch of owners have faced tax evasion issues. Many still own their teams. I believe the Panther’s former owner sold his team after investigations found that he sexually harassed his employees, but it does not look like we are quite there with our own specific investigation. Snyder would know why other owners have sold their teams. If he personally did something, I think he would have resisted an independent investigator much harder. All we can do is play the waiting game, but I don’t think fostering a crappy environment is enough to give an owner a punt. There are true scumbags in owner’s chairs all over the league and nobody wants to throw stones when they themselves live in a glass house. If and when that referenced incriminating evidence reveals itself however… Those other owners will turn into insatiable zombies.
  23. The first time this story came out, it was hyped to levels it could never hope to achieve, greatly softening the impact. This time it will be absolutely buried by what is going on around all of sports now, with multiple teams boycotting. I’m not sure enough vitriol and pressure will be generated to force substantial action when focus is being drawn another direction so strongly. The greatest changes that will occur will be by the hands of the people we have recently hired. I like what they have been saying, so I hope that leads us to a better place. I have a strong feeling that this will all amount to a large fine for Snyder and little more. Enough money to bury him under, but not enough to stop him from digging out and continuing on. (Zombie Pun)
  24. Yannick Ngakoue? He called everybody out so loudly it woke ME up He wants to go to a new team though. New person signing the checks
  25. We are in the midst of a year long name change that should keep us in the news. We just acquired a new player that is expected to be a superstar. A little further down the line we have a new stadium in the wings. That organizational value should spike a bit moving forward. I would pretty much expect Wash to rise up that list in the coming years. Like any zombie, I do enjoy a good COMEBACK story. (Zombie Pun)
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