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2 hours ago, Captain Wiggles said:

 

Chris Christie was the only one on the stage that seemed to understand that Americans appetite for drugs is the main culprit not the cartels. 

and if Christie knows anything, it's about appetites.

do you notice much of a flavor difference from low and slow vs hot and fast? Does the fat render as well?

I'm not sold on Caleb....he's got way too much time in the pocket in college to make decisions and that doesn't translate well to the NFL, especially behind our ****ty OL

2 hours ago, tshile said:

So - caveat would be that Biden is mostly considered to have done a good job with Ukraine. At least by people that are trying to be objective. I with he’d have made different decisions, I’m not thrilled, but I certainly can’t say he’s done a bad job. He’s just taken a different route I don’t necessarily like. It’s possible he does the same thing with this war with Israel

 

but I think it puts him in a bad spot. He has to defend supporting Israel and I think the pro-Palestinian/anti-israel people skew liberal. 

It's the horseshoe theory:

Just now, Redskins 2021 said:

I have to think Young was a cancer on this team. 

That's my guess too - he never did the offseason workouts. I got RG3 diva vibes after his rookie season.

This is good for us - we prop up the NFC contender to go against Philly this year while collecting a 3rd knowing that we probably wouldn't have got a comp pick for him this year.

As an adult, just go to Target the day after Halloween and buy discounted candy that you actually enjoy like a normal person.

1 minute ago, PleaseBlitz said:

 

Not sure there is going to be any negotiation here.  Maybe I'm not supposed to say this, but I think Israel is going to use this terrorist attack by Hamas to seize all of the territory they want from the Palestinians by force of arms. 

that's exactly what's going to happen.....and also this

https://unctad.org/news/unrealized-potential-palestinian-oil-and-gas-reserves

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Geologists and resources economists have confirmed that the occupied Palestinian territory (oPt) lies above sizeable reservoirs of oil and natural gas wealth, in Area C of the West Bank and the Mediterranean coast off the Gaza Strip, according to a recent UNCTAD study.

New discoveries of natural gas in the Levant Basin are in the range of 122 trillion cubic foot while recoverable oil is estimated at 1.7 billion barrels, according to the study entitled “The Economic Cost of Occupation for the Palestinian People: The Unrealized Oil and Natural Gas Potential.”

This offers an opportunity to distribute and share about US$524 billion among the different parties in the region and promote peace and cooperation among old belligerents, the study notes.

4 hours ago, PeterMP said:

 

I don't think this is true.  From your own link and even in the section you quoted:

 

"The Nakba, which means “catastrophe” in Arabic, refers to the mass displacement and dispossession of Palestinians during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war."

 

Now, there was violence against Palestinians by Zionist militias prior to the war and many Palestinians that could leave left prior to the war.  That's one reason why Israel was successful during the war.  But I'm pretty certainly the Nakba directly relates to things that happened during/after the war.

 

You could argue that the Nakba was extra to the war (kicking Palestinians out of their homes wasn't required to fighting the Arab armies and the 1948 war didn't have a significant guerilla warfare component to it).  Though many Palestinians fled their homes and so at some level left "willingly" (not explicitly kicked out by the Israelis).

I was referring to the lead up to the 1948 war - the displacement didn't happen just one night or during the war, it's also cited as the reason for the war by the Arab League on May 15, 1948. There's also influences going back to the early 1900's when Eastern Europeans started relocating to the area.

From section 10:

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/arab-league-declarationon-the-invasion-of-palestine-may-1948

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10. Now that the British mandate over Palestine has come to an end, without there being a legitimate constitutional authority in the country, which would safeguard the maintenance of security and respect for law and which would protect the lives and properties of the inhabitants, the Governments of the Arab States declare the following:

 

First: That the rule of Palestine should revert to its inhabitants, in accordance with the provisions of the Covenant of the League of Nations and [the Charter] of the United Nations and that [the Palestinians] should alone have the right to determine their future.

 

Second: Security and order in Palestine have become disrupted. The Zionist aggression resulted in the exodus of more than a quarter of a million of its Arab inhabitants from their homes and in their taking refuge in the neighbouring Arab countries.

The events which have taken place in Palestine have unmasked the aggressive intentions and the imperialistic designs of the Zionists, including the atrocities committed by them against the peace-loving Arab inhabitants, especially in Dayr Yasin, Tiberias and others. Nor have they respected the inviolability of consuls, as they have attacked the consulates of the Arab States in Jerusalem. After the termination of the British mandate over Palestine the British authorities are no longer responsible for security in the country, except to the degree affecting their withdrawing forces, and [only] in the areas in which these forces happen to be at the time of withdrawal as announced by [these authorities]. This state of affairs would render Palestine without any governmental machinery capable of restoring order and the rule of law to the country, and of protecting the lives and properties of the inhabitants.

2 minutes ago, Destino said:

Perhaps my understanding is off, but that was the result of the war. The borders shifted dramatically after the Arab Israeli war was decided. So I ask, is the side advancing in response to an attack the invader? I have no doubt the losing side of the conflict may think so, may even craft an alternative history claiming exactly this. We see the same thing in the American South where families happily pass down stories about “northern aggression” and that the war was not about slavery.  Contrary to popular belief history is not written by the winners, it’s written by everyone. 

I know what you're getting at with the reference to the south, but the Nakba happened before the 1948 war - the introduction of Eastern European Jews to the region introduced a new mindset (e.g. Zionism) that hadn't been there before. The Christians/Jews/Muslims in that region lived in relative harmony before the British mandate and the introduction of Zionism.

From the UN:

https://www.un.org/unispal/about-the-nakba/

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The Nakba, which means “catastrophe” in Arabic, refers to the mass displacement and dispossession of Palestinians during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war. Before the Nakba, Palestine was a multi-ethnic and multi-cultural society. However, the conflict between Arabs and Jews intensified in the 1930s with the increase of Jewish immigration, driven by persecution in Europe, and with the Zionist movement aiming to establish a Jewish state in Palestine.

 

In November 1947, the UN General Assembly passed a resolution partitioning Palestine into two states, one Jewish and one Arab, with Jerusalem under a UN administration. The Arab world rejected the plan, arguing that it was unfair and violated the UN Charter. Jewish militias launched attacks against Palestinian villages, forcing thousands to flee. The situation escalated into a full-blown war in 1948, with the end of the British Mandate and the departure of British forces, the declaration of independence of the State of Israel and the entry of neighbouring Arab armies. The newly established Israeli forces launched a major offensive. The result of the war was the permanent displacement of more than half of the Palestinian population.

 

As early as December 1948, the UN General Assembly called for refugee return, property restitution and compensation (resolution 194 (II)).  However, 75 years later, despite countless UN resolutions, the rights of the Palestinians continue to be denied. According to the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) more than 5 million Palestine refugees are scattered throughout the Middle East.   Today, Palestinians continue to be dispossessed and displaced by Israeli settlements, evictions, land confiscation and home demolitions.

 

The Nakba anniversary is a reminder not only of those tragic events of 1948, but of the ongoing injustice suffered by the Palestinians. The Nakba had a profound impact on the Palestinian people, who lost their homes, their land, and their way of life. It remains a deeply traumatic event in their collective memory and continues to shape their struggle for justice and for their right to return to their homes. In 2022, the UN General Assembly requested that this anniversary be commemorated on 15 May 2023, for the first time in the history of the UN.

This article explains the mindset of people that lived through the Nakba and how they still hold onto their house keys:

https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-05-24/75-years-after-the-nakba-young-and-old-in-gaza-dream-of-lost-homes-in-israel.html

39 minutes ago, Destino said:

 

im aware that both nations exist because of conflict, I bring it up because the framing that Palestine was invaded and stolen isn’t accurate. The UN partition was the first time they would be recognized as a state, as a distinct people ruled only by their own will. Framing that as simple colonization is a major mischaracterization. 

You're missing some key events here in 1948 that shape much of the Palestinian view point since so many of their grandparents still have keys to their homes in Palestine that they were forced to flee from when the Zionist armies/militias terrorized the area and took their literal homes from them. About half of the pre-1948 agreement Palestinian population (~700k) was forced to flee due to being terrorized, and that started the large Palestinian diaspora we see today without the right to return which is another sticking point for the Palestinians when coming to an agreement with Israel since Israel will never allow that. This event is called al-Nakba (it means 'the catastrophe' in Arabic) if you wanted to read more about it. This event is what brought the other Arab countries in the region into war with Israel.

Biden's approval ratings are dropping because of the way they're handling this - I've lost a lot of respect for the administration too. Rubber stamping genocide at this point is just not a good look...apparently Israel just invaded Gaza, so no telling what happens next since the internet has been cut.

Should have let him walk at the end of the season or tried trading him to get something of value back...it frustrates me so much knowing we could have had Halliburton, but we took him.

2 hours ago, Fergasun said:

At the same time, watching people in London march and chant true anti-semetic chants is also unnerving as heck.  A synagogue president was just murdered in Detroit. 

 

What's being chanted in London? I haven't seen this

I hope they trade Deni's useless ass for a 2nd.

Barton was playing the ball, but it's a stupid penalty on him...he clearly hit Ridder in the head and knocked his helmet off

they need to hold kicking competitions on campus tomorrow. If I apply for grad school, am I eligible?   

I'm pretty sure most of the responses to this thread are just copy and paste responses from the R/Biden (or whatever other topic) thread....I've notice that before because a lot of times they don't fit the topic at hand and leave you scratching your head

50 minutes ago, NickyJ said:

I think I will decline the offer to find you videos of terrified people being executed. The videos of a German woman's dead body being driven around for people to spit on will have to suffice, and you can go to any major news organization's website to find sanitized versions of it if you are so inclined.

If Hamas follows through on their offer to upload videos of hostages being executed, you can tune in to those as well.

She's apparently still alive.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/11/shani-louk-israel-hamas-gaza-hostage-video-alive-hospital/

2 minutes ago, tshile said:

So as a general thought. 
 

I am surprised how little the pro-Palestinian voice has been and how resoundingly it was shouted down. 
 

I expected a more contentious discussion on it. 

You're conflating two separate issues at hand here. I support Palestinian rights, and I don't support Hamas. I can support Palestinian rights and agree that Israel deserves to exist. Being pro-Palestine ≠ being pro-Hamas.

4 minutes ago, Destino said:

I’m not an Elon stan, and think he’s probably a legitimately crazy person, that we are watching grow more and more deranged… but this idea that misinformation is new to social media is wild to me. The idea that misinformation was somehow always combatted and that Elon has changed everything simply doesn’t line up with my experience. Remember what went on a few elections back with Facebook? Remember when ISIS and Al Qaeda were distributing propaganda on major social media sites? 
 

And I’m not onboard with governments demanding things be taken down immediately without any checks on that power. I’m opposed to that from China, and I’m opposed to that from the EU. 

 

And I’m agreeing. It’s much faster and covers things the media will not. 

The issue is that Captain Dip**** removed software and teams of people who were in charge of trying to fight misinformation. It has always been a problem like you mention, the issue is that he has only made it much worse and magnified it

Twitter has been full of misinformation. It's become a piece of **** website because of Musk

https://apnews.com/article/twitter-x-hamas-israel-war-elon-musk-misinformation-5e344fc9134741d4f5dc17ed04262940

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The social media platform X, formerly known as Twitter, says it is struggling with a flood of posts sharing graphic media, violent speech and hateful conduct about the Israel-Hamas war. But it has received a broadside of criticism, including from a top European Union official, questioning the adequacy of the response.

 

Outside watchdog groups said misinformation about the war abounds on the platform, whose workforce — including its content moderation team — was gutted by billionaire Elon Musk after he bought it last year.

 

Fake and manipulated imagery circulating on X include “repurposed old images of unrelated armed conflicts or military footage that actually originated from video games,” said a Tuesday letter to Musk from European Commissioner Thierry Breton. “This appears to be manifestly false or misleading information.”

 

Breton, the EU’s digital rights chief, also warned Musk that authorities have been flagging “potentially illegal content” that could violate EU laws and “you must be timely, diligent and objective” in removing it when warranted.

If I won, I'd quit working and go get my PhD....then be a venture capitalist on projects I like.

I'm pretty sure I'd be extremely happy rich as ****  

5 minutes ago, Renegade7 said:

Isn't cutting off essential services, like electricity, to a civilian population some sort of war crime?

 

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/war-crimes.shtml

Yes, but rules don't apply to Israel 🤷‍♂️

I'm personally shocked the intelligence failed so badly here. The entire country is under surveillance, tons of money is poured into the latest and greatest surveillance technologies. How does this happen??