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You’ll come around in due time Honestly, I'd be shocked if the locker room doesn't start (if not already) leaning towards Fields over Wilson. Wilson will have to put his body on the line and return to running to not be a below average QB.

Roughly 30 quarterbacks could manage decently given the right support. Though, being paid league minimum and being a decent QB carries some value. My guess is the lockeroom will side with Fields from the get and it will require Steelers getting off to a hot start to avoid being benched for Fields. Not even sure Wilson wins the job. Full disclosure, never been a huge fan of Wilson’s.

The elite dual-threat QB runner opens up the opportunity to adopt a ground-and-pound strategy in today's pass-friendly environment. It makes perfect sense for the Steelers to shift towards a more athletic QB to focus on power football. The delay in this approach was likely due to Big Ben and a desire to avoid mirroring their division rivals' style. Russell better step up his game and get in top shape if he wants to keep Fields at bay. He's gotta embrace being a dual-threat QB again if he wants to stay relevant; he’s a terrible pocket QB If that’s all he’s doing. Wonder if he's finally realized he needs to humble himself.

Hmm... That doesn't quite add up the same way. Oh well, never mind! 😄

His jump cut is elite/special so much so it channeled thoughts of Adrian Petersons jump cut. I love that he's stepping into this with confidence. One of RG3's biggest struggles was not staying true to himself and trying to fit into others' expectations of a QB. Thankfully, many outdated coaches and media figures have either adapted or retired, and QBs who both look and play like him have excelled in the league, paving the way for him to be bold and speak his truth. He comes off as very comfortable in his own skin.

Most QBs have cool stats these days. Those also look really cool. For great to elite QBs, wins and losses are indeed a QB stat. Winning in the playoffs, I would agree, is influenced by facing other great to elite QBs, so the team and coaches play a significant role. In the regular season, if your QB is great, they should generally have a winning record. As for the 70-80% of QBs starting who are mediocre, I agree, it's less about wins and losses and more about other factors.

Herbert is still fighting to have more wins than losses four years into his career. But as we know, those who fit the model of what QBs should be get a great amount of grace.

You've really been leaning on that stat for the past month or so, huh? It must be frustrating to see Maye performing just as poorly! Just imagine the comparisons you could've made if Maye had been 7-8 percent better. It would've given you some real ammunition. Daniel's day one offers a genuine chance to excel in the run and play-action game while projecting to protect the football at an elite level. It all adds up to a playoff ceiling in year one. Perhaps Maye doesn't need as much time on the bench to refine his mechanics and footwork like Mahomes, Rodgers, and Love did. Luckily, I'm all for backyard football, and I believe Maye is solid as a runner, although not quite at Howell's level, but still good. I’m down for a YOLO season while he learns, I can see him having the guts to endure a 20 plus INT season— I can get behind a gunslinger.

This is the pros, no one cares about the parents. Non issue. Lavar Ball approves this message.

Thank you for sharing your perspective. In your opinion, how frequently did Purdy execute completions like these per game? I'm not trying to come off as condescending, but I do acknowledge having some skepticism at this point. Just want to clarify my stance. Any chance you took a look at the Mahomes video I sent, were there any anticipatory throws?

I’m currently delving into the concept of anticipatory throws in football, exploring their frequency and importance in games. I’m at the early stages of self-learning and would appreciate if anyone could share examples of NFL quarterbacks consistently making anticipatory throws during games. Starting with an elite quarterback like Patrick Mahomes, I watched a 3-minute video showcasing 18 completions he made in an AFC Championship game, which many regard as a flawless first half. However, I struggled to identify a throw that exemplified anticipatory timing, although I acknowledge I may be mistaken in my understanding. Hers the three minute clip for those willing to indulge: https://www.chiefs.com/video/every-completion-from-patrick-mahomes-near-perfect-first-half-chiefs-vs-bengals I admit my bias and recognize that there may be conflicting definitions of what constitutes an anticipatory throw among those here, but I'm open to learning and being corrected.

it’s a trap, ruuuun!

It's fascinating how there's now a growing acceptance of the idea that Daniels has the highest floor and is most ready to make an instant impact. The narrative surrounding elite dual-threat quarterbacks is evolving, which is pretty cool to see. Now, the focus is shifting towards questioning the ceiling of dual-threat quarterbacks and less the floor, which is becoming a popular topic of discussion.

The way analytics are often pushed by the masses is lazy. They should be used as part of the overall player analysis, but too often, mathematical metrics are presented as absolute truth without proper context. They're then used as a major reason to dismiss a player in fan forums. This has been a primary argument against Daniel, while the prospect you support faces similar scrutiny. I understand you apply nuance and context to explain how Maye can overcome it, but you fail to provide Daniel with similar consideration. The presentation lacks depth, and there's been a lack of effort to break down the sacks and provide personal context. Some in the media have, like Sheehan who I’ve heard provide some personal context to the stat that I appreciate. What are some ways you feel he can overcome this and not take too many sacks? Injury risk is certainly a factor, but personally, I couldn't care less about injuries. The goal is to maximize players' primes and keep moving forward. As long as there's no PCL, MCL, ACL tear, or Achilles rupture, they can remain effective into their early 30s.

I completely understand the concerns about durability, and it would be reasonable for a front office to factor that into their decision-making process. However, I wouldn't base my decision solely on injury concerns when choosing between players. It's disappointing that mastering the baseball slide wasn't prioritized earlier in his youth, as it's a fundamental skill for QBs. Ultimately, in the NFL, one must acknowledge the risk of injury and proceed accordingly; there are no guarantees with any player. IMHO

Twitter analytics have evolved somewhat into salacious rumor mill fodder, reminiscent of the gossip magazines of the '90s. While analytics are often associated with intelligence and are relatively new, their acceptance by the media and public remains fairly high, albeit showing signs of losing steam. However, I find that a good amount of the analytics I encounter are lazy and incomplete for the most part. Most own my exposure of analytics is most on this board, so I don’t cast a wide net of exposure lol. Your believe he will get sacked a lot in the pros?

I despise these statistics when they're weaponized without context, but I'll entertain the surface-level discussion regarding pressure to sack percentages. How concerned are you about Drake Mayes having a sack rate within 1 percent of Daniels'?

It would be fascinating to hear quarterbacks discuss their struggles with reading pre and post-snap situations, and why some excel at it more than others. NBA players often provide more transparency about what sets the greats apart, but there's a lack of similar openness in the QB position. I'm not sure if for example JT O'Sullivan has discussed why he struggled or couldn't break through in the NFL, but delving into that aspect would require a lot of courage and vulnerability. It's possible that some quarterbacks have discussed it, but it's not widely known. This type of dialogue no laymen pompous fan can make claim to understanding. I wonder if the association of elite quarterback play with mental acuity makes it challenging for quarterbacks to acknowledge that another QB might be smarter in simpler terms.

The plate includes Daniels as well, right?

I made zero mention of Daniels and wasn’t attempting to make it a comparison game. I simply presented the information and was curious what your thoughts, especially as it relates to the ‘breakout age’ discussion you posted about. Completely own the breakout age is a sham on the surface— no conclusions made. I acknowledge that my posting history on this subject is pro Daniels and not as much for Maye, though I'd be perfectly fine if they selected him. I do appreciate a lot about Maye as a quarterback. I can find tough stretches for Tom Brady as well, not what I was attempting to do. I dislike some stats on a whole and they especially lack value at times at the collegiate level due to their being 350 plus division one schools and a huge gap in talent in some games. I thought it was interesting that a third of his games to end the season and what you and most described as a regression season coincided.

Yes we do. In 2022… In his last four games, he had 4 touchdowns and 4 interceptions, losing each game. Maybe it wasn’t just his final year that experienced regression?

Help me out… Questioning Breakout Age: However, I haven’t fully explored the idea of breakout age and upon initial consideration, it seems somewhat lacking in substance. Drake Maye’s Case: For instance, after just 8 minutes of research, I found that in Drake Maye’s supposed breakout season, he began strongly with 9 touchdowns and 0 interceptions in his first two games against Florida A&M and Appalachian State. Maye’s Performance Decline: Yet, in his last four games, he struggled with 4 touchdowns and 4 interceptions, losing each game. Despite this, many still regard it as a breakout season at a “young age.” Acknowledging Bias: While I do have a preference for Daniels, I understand that Maye could still be a valuable choice if selected by the front office.

Coaches typically aren't fans of using "potential" as a substitute for "project" and understanding that miracles can happen, but the odds of players correcting their natural inclinations and body mechanics is a tough, uphill battle that's unique to each individual and their personal journey toward improvement. Most players don't refine their mechanics, yet many are genuinely hardworking and nice young individuals.

Respect! ✊ I'm much like you, but I believe there are many ways to win at QB, and for me, most of it relates to the cap hit. But that's a whole other conversation. I love that Drake Maye is uber-aggressive with throwing down the field, which is close to my number one prerequisite for a pocket/mobile QB to have any shot at impacting games beyond QBs 8-35 or so. Russell Wilson belongs on our side. Lol No doubt, the 50-plus-year history of the NFL doesn’t have a lot of run-centric QBs winning SBs, but I like to include the final 8 or even final four, and the run-centric QB is littered all over the place over the last 15-20 years. I’m open to any and all pathways to achieve some sort of elite performance or success at the QB spot. For example, I was the biggest Alex Smith supporter here because I believed his intangibles were elite, and overnight he changed the culture within the locker room during his time (AP deserves credit as well). I'm intrigued by any path that creates a potential avenue to escape average or mediocrity that permiaties throughout the league each and every year.

Uh oh... whenever this Cooley comment comes up, Bruce Arians' book is bound to get some mention soon! Jk. Also, come over to the good side and welcome Jayden Daniels—I know you've got it in you. The uber-elite athletic QB is about to break through, just like MJ did for shooting guards in the early 90s. Ahead of the curve!